favorite fcp posters.

[alf13 0]

Shut Up Ron.....This serious Ron Mexico crap ain't cutting it.....Did I forget to mention that another reason I should be on this list is that I look spectaular naked?   or at least...I used to.....I was an athlete you know.... :wink:

Man, I'm gonna whip you silly and fuck you stupid.And intramural badminton doesn't make you an athelete. And High School football doesn't count either. Al Bundy played H.S. football.

I played High School Football and Baseball....and got a scholarship for JC Football.....I also used to walk around the shower with big impressive black men in the nude.That has to count for something.

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

Shut Up Ron.....This serious Ron Mexico crap ain't cutting it.....Did I forget to mention that another reason I should be on this list is that I look spectaular naked?   or at least...I used to.....I was an athlete you know.... :wink:

Man, I'm gonna whip you silly and fuck you stupid.And intramural badminton doesn't make you an athelete. And High School football doesn't count either. Al Bundy played H.S. football.

I played High School Football and Baseball....and got a scholarship for JC Football.....I also used to walk around the shower with big impressive black men in the nude.That has to count for something.

Funny you mention that. I was the only white guy on my college football team. Only white guy in the school now that you mention is. I played in the SWAC, against Grambling and Southern. Alcorn State University,Lorman, MSfor the mildly curiousand yes, lots of black guys do have big dongs

[keith crime 8]

we know they have big dongs ron but the question is 1. do they know how to use them2. do they refuse to do oral

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

we know they have big dongs ron but the question is  1. do they know how to use them2. do they refuse to do oral

This may even be gay for me, but I'll take a crack.after typing a couple of things and erasing them, I've decided I won't.

[Royal_Tour 0]

Shut Up Ron.....This serious Ron Mexico crap ain't cutting it.....Did I forget to mention that another reason I should be on this list is that I look spectaular naked?   or at least...I used to.....I was an athlete you know.... :wink:

Man, I'm gonna whip you silly and fuck you stupid.And intramural badminton doesn't make you an athelete. And High School football doesn't count either. Al Bundy played H.S. football.

I played High School Football and Baseball....and got a scholarship for JC Football.....I also used to walk around the shower with big impressive black men in the nude.That has to count for something.

Funny you mention that. I was the only 22 year old virgin on my team, and i used to hide in the corner watching all my teammates after practice.

FYP

[keith crime 8]

we know they have big dongs ron but the question is  1. do they know how to use them2. do they refuse to do oral

This may even be gay for me, but I'll take a crack.after typing a couple of things and erasing them, I've decided I won't.

ok then how many times did the coach say - how come that white boy ain't walking rightis it true the only two whites to attend all black colleges were marisa tomei the first year of a different world and rondid your teammates allow you to use the N word your senior year or was it verboten

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

we know they have big dongs ron but the question is  1. do they know how to use them2. do they refuse to do oral

This may even be gay for me, but I'll take a crack.after typing a couple of things and erasing them, I've decided I won't.

ok then how many times did the coach say - how come that white boy ain't walking rightis it true the only two whites to attend all black colleges were marisa tomei the first year of a different world and rondid your teammates allow you to use the N word your senior year or was it verboten

I was the only person that didn't use it.Everyone else used it to excess.And Royal, I was only a virgin until I was 21, then I met you.

[Jadaki 0]

Oh man... I have to agree with KK for once.ND is WAY overrated this year. No team that got beat by someone with a losing record should be in a premier bowl game.They have 1 quality win over Michigan, a game they won because Michigan fumbled on the 1 yard line and threw a pick in the end zone. The rest of their wins are mostly against teams who didn't even qualify for a bowl game. Sure normally TN, MSU and a few of thier other opponenets are tough... but they are not this year. TN flat out sucks, Purdue is horrible, Stanford who almost beat them is not a good team either.They are not better than 8 teams in the country, I think 15 of the top 20 would beat them.

[KowboyKoop 0]

Oh man... I have to agree with KK for once.ND is WAY overrated this year.  No team that got beat by someone with a losing record should be in a premier bowl game.They have 1 quality win over Michigan, a game they won because Michigan fumbled on the 1 yard line and threw a pick in the end zone.  The rest of their wins are mostly against teams who didn't even qualify for a bowl game.  Sure normally TN, MSU and a few of thier other opponenets are tough... but they are not this year.  TN flat out sucks, Purdue is horrible, Stanford who almost beat them is not a good team either.They are not better than 8 teams in the country, I think 15 of the top 20 would beat them.

See, I'm not the ONLY person who is capable of sifting through the media's hype. Score one for KK.

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

Oh man... I have to agree with KK for once.ND is WAY overrated this year.  No team that got beat by someone with a losing record should be in a premier bowl game.They have 1 quality win over Michigan, a game they won because Michigan fumbled on the 1 yard line and threw a pick in the end zone.  The rest of their wins are mostly against teams who didn't even qualify for a bowl game.  Sure normally TN, MSU and a few of thier other opponenets are tough... but they are not this year.  TN flat out sucks, Purdue is horrible, Stanford who almost beat them is not a good team either.They are not better than 8 teams in the country, I think 15 of the top 20 would beat them.

You're delirious.They can play with anyone in the country. They showed that.Name 8 teams that are better.UM-noVa Tech-noGeorgia-noTexas-maybeUSC-have to say yesOregon-noChild please.

[keith crime 8]

NU Wildcats kick their ass if they didnt have to study so damn hardbring back gerry faust

[KowboyKoop 0]

Oh man... I have to agree with KK for once.ND is WAY overrated this year.  No team that got beat by someone with a losing record should be in a premier bowl game.They have 1 quality win over Michigan, a game they won because Michigan fumbled on the 1 yard line and threw a pick in the end zone.  The rest of their wins are mostly against teams who didn't even qualify for a bowl game.  Sure normally TN, MSU and a few of thier other opponenets are tough... but they are not this year.  TN flat out sucks, Purdue is horrible, Stanford who almost beat them is not a good team either.They are not better than 8 teams in the country, I think 15 of the top 20 would beat them.

You're delirious.They can play with anyone in the country. They showed that.Name 8 teams that are better.UM-noVa Tech-noGeorgia-noTexas-maybeUSC-have to say yesOregon-noChild please.

Teams that are DEFINITELY better than Notre Dame:USCTexasLSUPenn St. Va. TechOhio St. AuburnMiamiTeams that are PROBABLY better than Notre DameGeorgiaOregonAlabamaBoston College WisconsinThere are 13 teams right there that I would have as favorites over ND, and there are probably a good 10 more I could name that could beat ND on a nuetral field. ND's offense puts up great numbers against weak teams with weak defenses, but they have only played one good defense (Michigan) and only one b/c they got lucky....(kinda like the way you criticize the '02 team for....). ND is overrated, their offense is good, but their defense is suspect at best. They gave USC a close game at home. Great. Fresno St. did the same thing ON THE ROAD, and USC has looked flat against A LOT of opponents this year at times, so get over it already. I'd put ND at #15 or so in the nation AT BEST. OVERRATED.Also, the fact that you say Texas MAYBE is better than ND shows how very very little you know about college football....Texas is 9 times better than ND. (and better than USC, I might add...uh oh, here comes some more flaming...)

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

"flaming" you must have me confused with Tenight. I'm merely debating the issue. While I do agree that ND is overrated, I don't believe your list is accurate. The Michigan game was early as was the Michigan State game. They have matured as an offense. There is such a thing as picking up steam and becoming better as the season progresses. I do agree that their defense is suspect, but none of those teams on your list are the complete package.USC's defence is very suspect. A quality team with tons of speed could bottle up Vince Young, a defense like UM's. OSU is always overrated. I don't like them. They are weak offensively.All quality teams with holes. USC is the best until proven otherwise.UT hasn't done anything, ever. They still have to show me something. I haven't watched enough of their games to make a solid assesment of team. I know that conference is god awful.These are my opinions. I don't flame. I debate in a civil manner.And btw, I've probably forgotten more about football than you will ever know. Reading the sports page and having a fantasy team doesn't help you really learn about football. Those things I don't really care about. I don't bet sports or play fantasy football. But I know football and see things on the tv I'd bet you don't.That is all. Read carefully, I did agree that they are overrated.I'm sure you know absolutely nothing about blocking and coverage shemes and plays and play calling.

[keith crime 8]

Texas is 9 times better than Notre Dame is maybe the dumbest thing I've ever readDo you have some complex ratings formulaWhat's the spread when a team 9 times better than another plays. Are they only 8 times better up at south bend?

[NormanHaupt 0]

Man.. all these new people, and none of them respect their elders.Smash, WRTO, Allin, Suited, KDawg- each contributed more to these forums than anyone else I've noticed thus far.At least that dumbass with the rabbit pictures isn't on the list.

[KowboyKoop 0]

"flaming" you must have me confused with Tenight. I'm merely debating the issue. While I do agree that ND is overrated, I don't believe your list is accurate. The Michigan game was early as was the Michigan State game. They have matured as an offense. There is such a thing as picking up steam and becoming better as the season progresses. I do agree that their defense is suspect, but none of those teams on your list are the complete package.USC's defence is very suspect. A quality team with tons of speed could bottle up Vince Young, a defense like UM's. OSU is always overrated. I don't like them. They are weak offensively.All quality teams with holes. USC is the best until proven otherwise.UT hasn't done anything, ever. They still have to show me something. I haven't watched enough of their games to make a solid assesment of team. I know that conference is god awful.These are my opinions. I don't flame. I debate in a civil manner.And btw, I've probably forgotten more about football than you will ever know. Reading the sports page and having a fantasy team doesn't help you really learn about football. Those things I don't really care about. I don't bet sports or play fantasy football. But I know football and see things on the tv I'd bet you don't.That is all. Read carefully, I did agree that they are overrated.I'm sure you know absolutely nothing about blocking and coverage shemes and plays and play calling.

the "flaming" reference wasn't for you, it was for those who are going to get all upset b/c I said texas is better than USC.Also, you say ND has "picked up steam" and gotten better at the season goes along, huh? Yeah, I guess all that "improvement" culminated in their lucky 7 point win over Stanford. Yeah, you're right, that's a top team. Oh, wait, you must be referring to their rout of 1-10 Syracuse the week before. Oh yeah, they are the only team that can rout Stanford. My family could line up and rout Stanford right now. Yeah, you're right, losing to Michigan State is to be ignored because it was "early" but them squeaking by Stanford is the reason why they are so good. Yeah, okay....WRONG.Noone said any of the teams are a complete package. However, I did say that all those teams could beat ND. ND's defense isn't that great, and their offense is good, but it isn't like it is an all-time great offense. They have played one good defense, Michigan. Only scored 17. Every other D they have played hasn't been that great at all. Also, to say Texas hasn't "shown" you anything yet and that they "haven't done anything" is just ridiculous....they are clearly the best team in College football right now. They are outscoring opponents by 33 pts a game (that is 6 more pts. than USC). They beat Ohio St on the road. (By the way, Ohio St. is not overrated, their only losses are a 3 pt. loss to Texas, and a 7 pt. loss to Penn St. and they are averaging 33 pts a game, so yeah, that is a "pretty weak offense," just like you said...OWNED) Here are Texas's wins57 pt. win over pushover LA Lafayetts3 pt. win AT Ohio St.41 pt. win over Rice31 pt. win over Missouri33 pt. win over rival Oklahoma25 pt. win over Colorado35 pt. win over Texas Tech19 pt. win over OK st.62 pt. over Baylor42 pt. win over Kansas11 pt. win over Texas A&Myeah ,the Big 12 is down, noone is saying they have the toughest schedule in the nation, but it ain't THAT bad...and they routed everyone except for Ohio St. and rival Texas A&M. Pretty dominant. Don't know how you can say they haven't "done anything, ever."Oh, yeah, you've forgotten more about football than I know..yeah, that really proves things. If so, then why am a showing stat after stat which backs up my arguments, while all you are doing is saying, ND is getting better, their offense is good,and other generic stuff????? I am stuffing all your claims back in your face, I am completely OWNING you here. I know you agree they are overrated. I got that. And I showed which teams were better than them and said the '02 team is better, which are all true.Also, I know more about football than you think. However, knowing a defensive coverage scheme and blitz pickup assignments and other technical stuff like that isn't REQUIRED to know which teams are better than others. Also, I don't play fantasy football, I look at stats, I watch A LOT of college football, something which you apparently don't do, seeing as how you admit you don't even watch Texas play that often...yet you somehow manage to say that they haven't done "anything, ever." Seems kind of ironic. Anyways.OWNED

[KowboyKoop 0]

Texas is 9 times better than Notre Dame is maybe the dumbest thing I've ever readDo you have some complex ratings formulaWhat's the spread when a team 9 times better than another plays. Are they only 8 times better up at south bend?

It was an exaggeration. COME ON!!! GET WITH IT!!!!

[CaneBrain 95]

Bottom line, my point is not that the '02 team is that great. They weren't. My point is that this year's team is VERY overrated and not even as good as the '02 team.OK KOWBOY ALL IN CAPS SO YOU CAN HEAR.IS ND OVERRATED THIS YEAR BEING AT #5? PERHAPS. I WOULD PUT THEM AT 8 PERSONALLY. HOWEVER IT IS THE ABOVE STATEMENT THAT I HAVE BEEN ARGUING WITH YOU.ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT THE 02 ND TEAM WAS BETTER THAN THIS YEAR'S TEAM KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL. NOTHING. ITS NOT CLOSE. THIS YEARS ND TEAM WOULD BEAT THE 02 TEAM BY 20. I REALLY DONT CARE ABOUT ANY OTHER ARGUMENT IN THIS THREAD.THE QUESTION IS WHO IS BETTER THIS YEAR'S ND TEAM OR THE 02 TEAM. THE ANSWER IS THIS YEAR'S TEAM BY 15-20 POINTS. THE 02 TEAM LUCKBOXED ITS WAY INTO 8 STRAIGHT WINS DUE TO AN INSANE TURNOVER MARGIN AND UNDERPERFORMING OPPONENTS BEFORE ABSOLUTELY COMING UNGLUED DOWN THE STRETCH. THEY COULD BARELY MOUNT AN OFFENSIVE DRIVE. UP UNTIL THIS POINT I HAVE FOUND YOU ANNOYING, BUT FAIRLY KNOWLEDGABLE. IF YOU REALLY THINK THE 02 TEAM WAS BETTER THAN YOU ARE MERELY ANNOYING.

[KowboyKoop 0]

Bottom line' date=' my point is not that the '02 team is that great. They weren't. My point is that this year's team is VERY overrated and not even as good as the '02 team.[/quote']OK KOWBOY ALL IN CAPS SO YOU CAN HEAR.IS ND OVERRATED THIS YEAR BEING AT #5? PERHAPS. I WOULD PUT THEM AT 8 PERSONALLY. HOWEVER IT IS THE ABOVE STATEMENT THAT I HAVE BEEN ARGUING WITH YOU.ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT THE 02 ND TEAM WAS BETTER THAN THIS YEAR'S TEAM KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL. NOTHING. ITS NOT CLOSE. THIS YEARS ND TEAM WOULD BEAT THE 02 TEAM BY 20. I REALLY DONT CARE ABOUT ANY OTHER ARGUMENT IN THIS THREAD.THE QUESTION IS WHO IS BETTER THIS YEAR'S ND TEAM OR THE 02 TEAM. THE ANSWER IS THIS YEAR'S TEAM BY 15-20 POINTS. THE 02 TEAM LUCKBOXED ITS WAY INTO 8 STRAIGHT WINS DUE TO AN INSANE TURNOVER MARGIN AND UNDERPERFORMING OPPONENTS BEFORE ABSOLUTELY COMING UNGLUED DOWN THE STRETCH. THEY COULD BARELY MOUNT AN OFFENSIVE DRIVE. UP UNTIL THIS POINT I HAVE FOUND YOU ANNOYING, BUT FAIRLY KNOWLEDGABLE. IF YOU REALLY THINK THE 02 TEAM WAS BETTER THAN YOU ARE MERELY ANNOYING.

First. Where is ND # 5 this year?? in the AP poll and USA poll they are 7, and in the BCS they are #8, so...yeah....way to start your post about how I don't know what I am talking about. OWNEDSecond. Yes, this year's OFFENSE is better, but it is funny how we don't talk about the defense. The '02 team's defense was MUCH MUCH MUCH better than this year's. You admit it yourself, they had an "insane" turnover ratio. Yeah, that is just all luck. Good one. Luck may play a part, but getting turnovers is a sign of a good defense. Plus, they got those "lucky" turnovers against good teams. This year's team is scoring on weak defenses. Thus, the '02 team is better. Why don't you want to talk about the defenses?? Why are you just saying that the '02 team's defense was just "lucky" to get ALLL those turnovers and to stop ALLL those drives all the time. I watched those games too buddy, and yeah, they got fortunate at times, but they also stopped a lot of drives and FORCED a lot of turnovers. Good defenses get turnovers, decent defenses don't.Here is an illustration.'02 team--- Pretty good defense, Mediocre Offense....beat a few pretty good teams..'05 team--Pretty good offense, Bad defense----beaten one DECENT team and a bunch of mediocre teams.'02 team is better. Neither team is great, but the '05 team is worse. Maybe not by that much, but they aren't as good as Ty's team. If you and Ron were SOOOOOOO knowledgeable about football, then why was NOBODY saying that the ND team was just "lucky" back in '02?? Instead, everyone was going nuts about how "good" that team was and all that....while I just sat back and waited for them to finally be put into their place like the overrated team that they were. Same thing this year, this year's ND team has a great offense when they get to play against Syracuse and Navy and other softies, but their defense is not good at all and they haven't beaten a real good team yet and thus, are overrated. #15 team in the nation AT BEST.

[CaneBrain 95]

everybody said they were lucky especially when they got thumped repeatedly down the stretch.anyone who watched the 02 team play and this years team play know that this year's team is far superior. ron knows it. i know it. anyone with a brain knows it. this years team will make a bcs bowl. 02 didnt. thats a pretty good measure. 02 won one less game. thats a good measure. the 02 schedule wasnt that much harder than this years.....they didnt have to play the #1 team in the country in 02 did they? their loss to USC was much more impressive than any wins they had this year or in 02. i dont need to look at schedules though. i have eyes. i watched both teams play on multiple occasions....you need about ten seconds to tell that this years ND team is better. its obvious its not close. have you actually seen either play? somehow I doubt it.

[TJ_Eckleburg 0]

I am utterly shocked that I was the only person who voted for wrto4556.

[KowboyKoop 0]

everybody said they were lucky especially when they got thumped repeatedly down the stretch.anyone who watched the 02 team play and this years team play know that this year's team is far superior.  ron knows it.  i know it.  anyone with a brain knows it.  this years team will make a bcs bowl.  02 didnt.  thats a pretty good measure.  02 won one less game.  thats a good measure.  the 02 schedule wasnt that much harder than this years.....they didnt have to play the #1 team in the country in 02 did they?  their loss to USC was much more impressive than any wins they had this year or in 02.  i dont need to look at schedules though.  i have eyes.  i watched both teams play on multiple occasions....you need about ten seconds to tell that this years ND team is better. its obvious its not close.  have you actually seen either play?  somehow I doubt it.

I watch them play alot every year. I always root against them.So far in our argument, you claim that I am SOOOO little knowledge about this subject, and you have already had two major blunders. A. You bashed Ty for having his team thumped in the Fiesta Bowl. OOPS, that game was in 2000 and Ty didn't coach ND until 2002. Somehow though, you just ignored your blunder here...good one.B. You said ND was overrated at #5. OOPS ND isn't ranked #5 in any of the polls...unless you are looking at some other poll that is insignificant...I guess you will just ignore this one too while arguing about how much you know about ND football. Good one again.Also, you say that the '02 schedule "wasn't much tougher" than this years. Well, my argument is that the '02 team was better b/c they played tougher competition and beat them, while this year's team just "looks" better on offense b/c they play weaker competition...let's just take a look at the FACTS2005 Notre Dame team: -combined record of all opponents: 58-62 (.483)-combined record of all opponents that they beat: 40-58 (.408)2002 Notre Dame team:-combined record of all opponents: 94-73 (.563)-combined record of all opponents beaten: 63-64 (.496)yeah, you're right, the '02 schedule wasn't that much harder....good one. OWNED. once again, NEITHER team was that great, but the '02 team played and beat better teams. They beat Maryland, who would be 11-3 and Michigan, who would be 10-3, as well as an 9-5 team and an 8-5 team. Best win for this year's ND team, 7-4 Michigan. Yeah, you're right, not that much different......OWNED.Also, you say "everyone said they got lucky, especially when they got thumped at the end.." WRONG. everyone said they got lucky ONLY when they got thumped at the end. During their run that year, everyone was saying, Notre Dame is back, they are a powerhouse, a return to glory!!...and all that crap...just like everyone is now. Seriously, I am right, just admit it. You may think that all the '02 ND team was was "lucky," but there is alot more than luck involved in playing good defense. And yes, I did watch those games. They got fortunate in some spots, but you can't win football games on just luck, you gotta play good football to win against good teams, and they did. This year's team plays mediocre competition and just runs up the score against softies such as Navy and Purdue and Stanford and Syracuse. I am surprised that so many people get fooled into thinking that a team is a powerhouse just because they can rout a few softies and can lose TWO home games, yet still be some kind of good team. This year's ND team is decent, the '02 team was a little better than decent. I am right, it is clear.

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

wow Kowboy, you are quite the little stat machine aren't you? I am quite impressed. Oh wait, no I'm not. And the little owned routine, completely gay. Just come out of the closet already.When I said Texas hasn't done anything, ever, I was talking on a national scale. When was their last big win with everything on the line? I suppose you will give me the score of last years bowl game when they beat Michigan. Big deal, they couldn't come up with the win when they needed it against OU. Lets not even talk about the Chris Simms years. Or Major Applewhite for that matter. Mack Brown has won anything except the recruiting wars.Back when I was 24, I could quote all those stats and spit out numbers all off of memory, but I'm 33 now and could really care less. When I say that I know football, I mean I can get an idea on how a team is gonna gameplan and prepare for the opponent. I know how to watch film and know what to look far. You can tell me how TX blew out Missouri by quoting the score. Again, does that really matter when Pete Carroll and staff have a month to gameplan with the likes of Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush? Nope. I think USC will beat TX. Vince Young is a stud, but he ain't the truth yet. He drops his elbow and has a crazy release. The USC D Line is gonna sit back, keep him in the pocket, and bat down his intermediate passes. They'll have an answer for him. Watch.As far as the ND 02 team being better than the 05 team. You can't tell me you believe that. I watched most games from both of those seasons. The 05 team is miles ahead of that team. Any expert will tell you the same.

[KowboyKoop 0]

wow Kowboy, you are quite the little stat machine aren't you? I am quite impressed. Oh wait, no I'm not. And the little owned routine, completely gay. Just come out of the closet already.When I said Texas hasn't done anything, ever, I was talking on a national scale. When was their last big win with everything on the line? I suppose you will give me the score of last years bowl game when they beat Michigan. Big deal, they couldn't come up with the win when they needed it against OU. Lets not even talk about the Chris Simms years. Or Major Applewhite for that matter. Mack Brown has won anything except the recruiting wars.Back when I was 24, I could quote all those stats and spit out numbers all off of memory, but I'm 33 now and could really care less. When I say that I know football, I mean I can get an idea on how a team is gonna gameplan and prepare for the opponent. I know how to watch film and know what to look far. You can tell me how TX blew out Missouri by quoting the score. Again, does that really matter when Pete Carroll and staff have a month to gameplan with the likes of Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush? Nope. I think USC will beat TX. Vince Young is a stud, but he ain't the truth yet. He drops his elbow and has a crazy release. The USC D Line is gonna sit back, keep him in the pocket, and bat down his intermediate passes. They'll have an answer for him. Watch.As far as the ND 02 team being better than the 05 team. You can't tell me you believe that. I watched most games from both of those seasons. The 05 team is miles ahead of that team. Any expert will tell you the same.

So...you are ignoring the strength of schedule point I made, which CLEARLY shows the '02 team is better...and just stick with your argument anyways. Got it......OWNEDanyways....I like how you try to switch the focus from '02 ND team vs. '05 ND team, which is what we were talking about, to Texas vs. USC...good one. Don't worry, I'd try to switch the topic too if I had just been completely blown away in my argument. Whatever though....USC defense is vulnerable and the Texas offense has been unstoppable. Texas defense is GOOD and USC's offense has been unstoppable....you do the math. Texas is going to win. Also, I watched most games too for ND. I watched them beat good teams in '02 and I have watched them run up the score against bad teams this year. Give me the team that beats good teams. I know you will AGAIN ignore this extremely simple concept, so...whatever.Also, you say Texas hasn't done anything yet??? Well, alright...when is the last time ND won a bowl game......the 93 season???? Oh yeah, alright, I guess ND is still a great team though...while Texas still has to "show" you something. Your football knowledge is a joke. You may know about how to play the game, but you sure don't know very much about college football if you don't think Texas is the real deal.....

[kers2 0]

Koop why do you keep posting about who the ND teams played blah blah. All that shows is how good the teams were that they played, not how good the actual team was. All I had to do was look at the rosters of the two ND teams and it was pretty clear who had the better team. I suggest you do the same.