petersun 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 PokerRoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxButton ($94.70)SB ($48.85)BB ($15.85)UTG ($33.20)UTG+1 ($51.75)UTG+2 ($47.75)MP1 ($50.80)MP2 ($51.35)MP3 ($48.75)Hero ($52)Preflop: Hero is with 5:spade:, 5:diamond:. UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, BB checks.Flop: ($2.75) 5:club:, 9:club:, 6:club: (5 players)BB bets $2Just wanted your opinion on which option you would pick:1. Raise $8.2. Raise some other amount (please specify).3. Call.4. Fold.Does flopping three of a suite change the way you play as opposed to flopping two of a suite?Edit: Just sat down at the table. No reads or poker tracker stats. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 2. Raise to 8 . This ultimately makes it correct for you to call if BB comes over the top of your raise with a flush and UTG+1 folds. Unless of course UTG+1 is slow playing a nut flush in which case you will probably be able to tell with a raise here. If some one made a flush, you have to lose a little money here. Link to post Share on other sites
wingsare1 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I would fold here because no matter what you going to bet who ever has the ace of club is going to chase the flush all the way to the end and for you hopefully to hit a full house. I would not take that risk. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I would fold here because no matter what you going to bet who ever has the ace of club is going to chase the flush all the way to the end and for you hopefully to hit a full house. I would not take that risk.What??? Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I would fold here because no matter what you going to bet who ever has the ace of club is going to chase the flush all the way to the end and for you hopefully to hit a full house. I would not take that risk.What???Let me elaborate... What?!?!? Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I would fold here because no matter what you going to bet who ever has the ace of club is going to chase the flush all the way to the end and for you hopefully to hit a full house. I would not take that risk.I hope you are joking, if not, turn pro/make millionsas for the hand, you didn't give any reads, depending on those I either raise this to 10 or call and see what the action on the turn is like. Link to post Share on other sites
BDPoolie 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I would fold here because no matter what you going to bet who ever has the ace of club is going to chase the flush all the way to the end and for you hopefully to hit a full house. I would not take that risk.ROFL! Are you serious?Like Scott said, the raise is perfect, and if someone made the flush, you may have to lose a little money to find out. Link to post Share on other sites
petersun 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 I would fold here because no matter what you going to bet who ever has the ace of club is going to chase the flush all the way to the end and for you hopefully to hit a full house. I would not take that risk.I hope you are joking, if not, turn pro/make millionsas for the hand, you didn't give any reads, depending on those I either raise this to 10 or call and see what the action on the turn is like.I added the read to the description. I just sat down so no reads. Link to post Share on other sites
brando 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I really like calling and raising/betting a safe turn (mainly b/c of our position). I don't mind laying the hand down if a club/straight card comes. Link to post Share on other sites
theredpill99 0 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I would call. If a club comes on the turn, you need 4 to 1 odds to see the river but you also have implied odds here because you will most certainly get paid off if the board pairs . If he moves in or something on the turn, you'll have to fold but try to hit your full house if you get the odds, too. Link to post Share on other sites
Binbs 0 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Raise Raise Raise. Link to post Share on other sites
Scott3705 0 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 Raise when you have the best hand and are vulnerable. period. No smooth calling and raising a safe turn here. if it's safe, we're not extracting maximum value out our opponent. Link to post Share on other sites
macphec 0 Posted November 24, 2005 Share Posted November 24, 2005 I would fold here because no matter what you going to bet who ever has the ace of club is going to chase the flush all the way to the end and for you hopefully to hit a full house. I would not take that risk.OK, this is going in the "you know you're playing a fish thread" Link to post Share on other sites
petersun 0 Posted November 24, 2005 Author Share Posted November 24, 2005 Thanks everyone for the replies. My normal play is an $8 raise. But for some reason I had a bad feeling on this hand. I felt at least one of them was on a flush draw, but I'm not sure if they were also on a straight draw (straight flush draw). I put the other guy on a range of hands. From overpair (with a club) to straight draw to flush draw with an Ace.So I called, planning to take a shot at the pot if nothing threatening hit on the turn. The turn came 7:club:. At that point I'm fairly sure my hand was over. When MP1 bet out and BB called, it was an easy fold. On the river, MP1 put out another hefty bet and the BB called.I still wonder, would an $8 have pushed anyone out. Doesn't matter, I should have made the bet. Oddly, MP1 had a pair of 8s with the 8:club: (for the straight flush, which didn't surprise me), and BB had a pair of aces in the whole with NO A:club:!! Oy!Given what happened, my guess is that I woulda bet $8, BB would have called (since he wasn't going to get off his Aces), and MP1 would have called as well. Link to post Share on other sites
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