TheGame 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 i dont think you guys can say nick schulman just becuz he one had one good tourney result. I understand he is "killing" the cash games, but his tournament results are not currently good enough to place him near the top just yet. Link to post Share on other sites
augmented 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 um.prahlad friedman? Link to post Share on other sites
steve7stud 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Cassidy. But to my knowledge he only plays hold em. His understanding and feel for the game is truly scary though. Link to post Share on other sites
PhishForChips 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 i dont think you guys can say nick schulman just becuz he one had one good tourney result. I understand he is "killing" the cash games, but his tournament results are not currently good enough to place him near the top just yet.Well, he is the youngest WPt winner ever. He has over 275K in winnings on Pokerstars alone this year in the tourneys (not even taking into consideration the cash games, and other sites). I think he's already there. I think the only reason you haven't really heard much about him is that he just turned 21. Link to post Share on other sites
sirphatticus 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 why has noone mentioned john phan...someone mentions tim phan, but not john? hes young, and doin amazing...and anyone sayin nick schulman, lets not get ahead of ourselves. Link to post Share on other sites
steve7stud 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 The truth is. There's a ton of them. Most are incredibly talented in one way or another. Some are better at cash games, some are better at tournaments. But I think there is a lot to be learned from all of the "young guns". Time will tell, who has the stamina to make a "career" out of poker. Online, it seems like ZeeJustin, JJProdigy, and Prahlad are doing quite well. The list could literally go on forever. But due to media exposure. People are only familiar with certain players. Plenty of talent out there though. Link to post Share on other sites
Chiggleslap 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 i could have sworn i made a post saying "Tim Phan is over 30?!" in this thread.did it really get deleted or am i just crazy? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 GrindertakeoverPhan 1 and 2Ivey hands down if it's about age. Link to post Share on other sites
Chiggleslap 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Me. Link to post Share on other sites
-Phenom- 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 kanter is a lamer :twisted: And the grinder plays at the casino i play at in hollywood florida Link to post Share on other sites
varsityblues 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 yeah ok i forgot about the grinder. But tim phan is definately not a young gun. And tuan le and john phan are two of the biggest cash game suckers in the world so i wouldnt consider them. tuan is one of teh biggest spots in high limit poker. Grinder is a good nl player, average cash game player. I still dont rate him higher than dagostino, cassidy, or keller overall. Link to post Share on other sites
asandu 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 For tournies, I'll take Gracz Link to post Share on other sites
RhinestoneCowboy 2 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 The poker zealot... CHYEA!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Ottawa_Biatch 288 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Phil Laak Link to post Share on other sites
mrfrankhg 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 1) Phan2) Grinder3) Fischman Link to post Share on other sites
RayPowers 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I will get discounted as being biased, but I vote Keller, because he gets me published in Card Player, er I mean, because he is a fantastic high limits cash player.Well he does, er I mean, he is.Can't wait for his new web site to go live. Woot.Ray Link to post Share on other sites
SLEEPYCHIEF 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Ivey is only 27, and would dominate all those guys, even if they all combined their poker powers together.. Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Shakes 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I say Michael Gracz. Incredible instincts and decisions. His call at this years WSOP of the guys all in with only Ace high. That was awesome!Scott Fischman is up there tho he doesn't play side games, he says he only plays tournaments. JDagsJoe Cassidy are all up there.Who is Phil Ivey? swWe will see who was right in about a decade or so.... :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
casademarc 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Yea man all the guys mentioned with the exception of maybe the grinder would kill their first born to have the year Gracz did, now if he can keep it up that is the question.... Link to post Share on other sites
Fooditty 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 For me the best new player to show up this year is Tim Phan. I have seen this guy play at the Commerce Casino and Bicycle Casino in L.A. playing the largest Hold'em games available which is usually 100-200 or 200-400 on weekdays and sometimes higher on weekends. He is also proven in the "Big Game" at the Bellagio. On one of my many trips to Vegas this year, I watch through the glass of "Bobby's Room," as Tim Phan sat in the same table as Phil Ivey, Jennifer Harmen, Chau Giang, Doyle Brunson, and Eli Elierza in 2000-4000 mixed game. What new player you know that is 30 or younger has had the guts and money to sit down against those players in the Big Game? His tournament accomplishments are known as he has made the final table of the Bicycle Casino's Legends of Poker and finished 24th in the WSOP Main Event in the one of the toughest beats I have seen and took that bad beat with class. Â Shame on Cardplayer if they do not have a feature story about Tim Phan's rise in the poker world. If he is not in your top five or ten poker players than change it and put this guy on your list.Please, you are a moron, he did not take a bad beat in the main event. Everyone stop thinking this, it only makes you dumb. If he had whined about it, I would consider him an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites
Woodbelly 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I don't see why he put Williams on there. The guy got lucky 2 times and is now a media darling. He has done squat this year. Link to post Share on other sites
mario_kelly 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 What about Noah " Exclusive" Boaken......great player from europe...very young 2 final ept tables and a win. Link to post Share on other sites
Rags2Riches 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 The_Takeover a.k.a Nick Shulman.Wow. Nicky Schulman. I'm not such an avid follower of tourneys or poker news in general, but this was a shocker. I went to some poker sites and saw Nick's pic and couldn't believe a kid i've known for years is now a millionaire. GO NICKY!!!You don't wanna play Nicky in pool ... glad to see he's doin good, i mean GREAT in poker!Rags Link to post Share on other sites
koolromeo 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 i've seen thunder keller win $25k a day on ub many times, so he's my vote. i have played with fishman as low as 2-4 so that should tell u about his cash game. Link to post Share on other sites
Jlowtrip 0 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Tim Phan was at my table in the WPT Legends tourney this year. He is one of the best no limit players around. He is super aggressive andit is impossible to put him on a hand. At one point he moved all in on a stone cold bluff against a guy who laid down a big hand, like three hands later he makes the same move, turns over the nuts and busts the guy. When you are in a hand with him you know that you may have to put all your chips in the pot. The one hand we played, I had pocket QQ, raised it up to 8k at the cut off spot, (Blinds were 1k 2k) he was small blind and called. Flop K82 rainbow, he bets like 6k, I raise it 18k, he comes over the top and puts me all in, I had like 45-50k left, he had me 3-1 on chips. I lay the hand down, show him the QQ, he tells me I though you were making a move and shows me K5! He calls 6k raise with k5 then reraises on a weak K. Solid play in book with that chip stack. Ivey played at the next table, same style but busted out quick. Not to brag but I busted Harrington on Day 1, he is super tight like his image on TV and on day 2 I busted Vinny Vihn, he was agressive but made really bad moves. All in all I would way rather have Harrington or Vinny Vinh at my table that Tim Phan. Just my 2 cents! Link to post Share on other sites
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