top young gun

[varsityblues 0]

Interested in who you guys think is the top young gun in the poker world. I've narrowed the list to Joe Cassidy, John D'Agostino, Scott Fischman, Thomas Keller, and David Williams. I think a fair criteria to determine is tournaments as well as cash games. When it comes to tournaments, lets look at wsop bracelets. Fischman 2, Keller 1, the rest 0. Final tables of Major 10k tourneys. D'Agostino 4, Williams 2, Cassidy 1 the other two 0. When i hear about cash games, i hear cassidy is a phenominal limit holdem player as well as dags and keller. But i've heard cassidy only plays holdem, so that hurts his overall profile. Ive watched dags play on full tilt alot and keller alot on ub. They both play great cash game. From what i hear from most people, williams actually plays nl very poor compared to top players. Fischman plays tourneys well but i hear he isnt good in the side games. My opinion is 1) D'Agostino2) Cassidy3) Keller4) Fischman5) WilliamsAlso, if there are any other players im missing, please include them.id like to know what everyone else thinks and DANIEL if you read this, id like to hear your opinion on these 5 as well as how you rank them overall with tourneys and cash games.

[TheGame 0]

What about Michael "The Grinder" Mizrachi. He has been at two large 10k buy-in tournies (to the best of my knowlege, maybe more). World poker open and la poker classic. Norotious online tourney player and heads up competitor. Also he went fairly deep in the main event (at least cashed) and very deep in the wpt championship.

[solo319 0]

Tuan Le, lol, seriously though

[bayouboy 0]

fischman

[TheCinciKid 0]

Obviously this post came straight out of the WPT Young Guns event that aired on Saturday, but I do like the fact that the OP put a lot of thought into it. As far as who the best is, I think it's very hard to quantify that, just as it's very hard to quantify who the best non-young gun player is. I think all of those guys are good young players.Thunder Keller is probably the most proven who's played the biggest and has the highest profile. I believe that DN has spoken very highly of the limit hold'em skills of Joe Cassidy.And the others are very good as well. I won't even try to pick out who the best is.

[HoosierAlum 0]

Nick Schulman

[Chiggleslap 0]

i think tim phan should be on the list.the jury is out on john phan for me.OH! OH! AARON KANTER.(sw on the Kanter, not Tim Phan)

[Foulky 0]

Cassidy has made 2 major final tables... WPT Invitational in Season 2 and USPC 2nd place last year.

[allinbluff35 0]

The_Takeover a.k.a Nick Shulman.

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

Quite obviously Erin Ness needs to be on this list.No discussion, it just needs to happen.

[solo319 0]

Tiffany Williams, she made amazing laydowns in the main event.The King hi hand against Shakon the girl has incredible instincts.

[budroyale121 0]

For me the best new player to show up this year is Tim Phan. I have seen this guy play at the Commerce Casino and Bicycle Casino in L.A. playing the largest Hold'em games available which is usually 100-200 or 200-400 on weekdays and sometimes higher on weekends. He is also proven in the "Big Game" at the Bellagio. On one of my many trips to Vegas this year, I watch through the glass of "Bobby's Room," as Tim Phan sat in the same table as Phil Ivey, Jennifer Harmen, Chau Giang, Doyle Brunson, and Eli Elierza in 2000-4000 mixed game. What new player you know that is 30 or younger has had the guts and money to sit down against those players in the Big Game? His tournament accomplishments are known as he has made the final table of the Bicycle Casino's Legends of Poker and finished 24th in the WSOP Main Event in the one of the toughest beats I have seen and took that bad beat with class. Shame on Cardplayer if they do not have a feature story about Tim Phan's rise in the poker world. If he is not in your top five or ten poker players than change it and put this guy on your list.

[Jennings7 0]

For me the best new player to show up this year is Tim Phan. I have seen this guy play at the Commerce Casino and Bicycle Casino in L.A. playing the largest Hold'em games available which is usually 100-200 or 200-400 on weekdays and sometimes higher on weekends. He is also proven in the "Big Game" at the Bellagio. On one of my many trips to Vegas this year, I watch through the glass of "Bobby's Room," as Tim Phan sat in the same table as Phil Ivey, Jennifer Harmen, Chau Giang, Doyle Brunson, and Eli Elierza in 2000-4000 mixed game. What new player you know that is 30 or younger has had the guts and money to sit down against those players in the Big Game? His tournament accomplishments are known as he has made the final table of the Bicycle Casino's Legends of Poker and finished 24th in the WSOP Main Event in the one of the toughest beats I have seen and took that bad beat with class.  Shame on Cardplayer if they do not have a feature story about Tim Phan's rise in the poker world. If he is not in your top five or ten poker players than change it and put this guy on your list.

Agreed, he is definitely in my top 3. The other's are Thunder Keller and Joe Cassidy. Keller because he plays high limit cash games and is a proven tourney player. Cassidy cuz he had the stones to go heads up with DN for hundreds of thousands of dollars, AND played as well if not better than DN.

[-Phenom- 0]

1 Tuan Le2Michael "The Grinder" Mizrachi3 J Dag4Cassidy5)Fischman

[sonnyvegas 0]

It would not surprise me if Tim Phan or Joe Cassidy were staked into those higher games and directly paid for only a smaller percentage or were playing on a commission type basis with little risk. This is not to say that they are not great players, it may say more that someone else thinks your good enough to start risking stacks of white chips on your play ; )

[spikymarv99 0]

i think tim phan should be on the list.the jury is out on john phan for me.OH! OH! AARON KANTER.(sw on the Kanter, not Tim Phan)

Tim Phan is in his 30's.... He is not a young gun, he has been around for a VERY long time in cash games.

[spikymarv99 0]

For me the best new player to show up this year is Tim Phan. I have seen this guy play at the Commerce Casino and Bicycle Casino in L.A. playing the largest Hold'em games available which is usually 100-200 or 200-400 on weekdays and sometimes higher on weekends. He is also proven in the "Big Game" at the Bellagio. On one of my many trips to Vegas this year, I watch through the glass of "Bobby's Room," as Tim Phan sat in the same table as Phil Ivey, Jennifer Harmen, Chau Giang, Doyle Brunson, and Eli Elierza in 2000-4000 mixed game. What new player you know that is 30 or younger has had the guts and money to sit down against those players in the Big Game? His tournament accomplishments are known as he has made the final table of the Bicycle Casino's Legends of Poker and finished 24th in the WSOP Main Event in the one of the toughest beats I have seen and took that bad beat with class.  Shame on Cardplayer if they do not have a feature story about Tim Phan's rise in the poker world. If he is not in your top five or ten poker players than change it and put this guy on your list.

If the requirement for making the list is to be under 30 then everyone's list is horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Phil Ivey is under 30 and is alot younger than Phan.... so Ivey is the best young gun out there. For everyone's info, Phan is not a new player.... he has been playing forever, but people only reconize tv as an avenue for exposure. He has played so long that he has opened a restaurant with his winning 5 YEARS AGO. Another name that nobody knows is Alan Giang... he is 25 years old and DOMINATES the highest NL tables at Commerce playing against the likes of Dan Harrington, Antionio, Laak, and a host of other "stars." He can usually be found with a 18 inch stack of 100 dollar bills. I love how people rate players

[navybuttons 15]

by fischman's own admission he is almost strickly a tournament player. that is not to his discredit but should definately be factored.

[chrozzo 19]

What about Michael "The Grinder" Mizrachi.  He has been at two large 10k buy-in tournies (to the best of my knowlege, maybe more).  World poker open and la poker classic.  Norotious online tourney player and heads up competitor.  Also he went fairly deep in the main event (at least cashed) and very deep in the wpt championship.

If only he wasnt such an A-hole

[chrozzo 19]

What about Michael "The Grinder" Mizrachi.  He has been at two large 10k buy-in tournies (to the best of my knowlege, maybe more).  World poker open and la poker classic.  Norotious online tourney player and heads up competitor.  Also he went fairly deep in the main event (at least cashed) and very deep in the wpt championship.

If only he wasnt such an A-hole

[The Enforcer 0]

Out of the choices provided, I think Keller is the best. I'm surprised no one has mentioned Michael Gracz. He has really impressed me with his solid tournament play

[Batch 0]

Interested in who you guys think is the top young gun in the poker world.  I've narrowed the list to Joe Cassidy, John D'Agostino, Scott Fischman, Thomas Keller, and David Williams.  I think a fair criteria to determine is tournaments as well as cash games.    When it comes to tournaments, lets look at  wsop bracelets.  Fischman 2, Keller 1, the rest 0.    Final tables of Major 10k tourneys.    D'Agostino 4, Williams 2, Cassidy 1 the other two 0.  When i hear about cash games,  i hear cassidy is a phenominal limit holdem player as well as dags and keller.    But i've heard cassidy only plays holdem, so that hurts his overall profile.  Ive watched dags play on full tilt alot and keller alot on ub.  They both play great cash game.   From what i hear from most people, williams actually plays nl very poor compared to top players.    Fischman plays tourneys well but i hear he isnt good in the side games.  My opinion is  1) D'Agostino2) Cassidy3) Keller4) Fischman5) WilliamsAlso, if there are any other players im missing, please include them.id like to know what everyone else thinks and DANIEL if you read this, id like to hear your opinion on these 5 as well as how you rank them overall with tourneys and cash games.

How about nicky takeover schulman.Crushes cash games on stars.Won the 500 k on stars a couple months back and enters his first 10k at the woods and destroys the field.

[Don Giovanni 0]

For me the best new player to show up this year is Tim Phan. I have seen this guy play at the Commerce Casino and Bicycle Casino in L.A. playing the largest Hold'em games available which is usually 100-200 or 200-400 on weekdays and sometimes higher on weekends. He is also proven in the "Big Game" at the Bellagio. On one of my many trips to Vegas this year, I watch through the glass of "Bobby's Room," as Tim Phan sat in the same table as Phil Ivey, Jennifer Harmen, Chau Giang, Doyle Brunson, and Eli Elierza in 2000-4000 mixed game. What new player you know that is 30 or younger has had the guts and money to sit down against those players in the Big Game? His tournament accomplishments are known as he has made the final table of the Bicycle Casino's Legends of Poker and finished 24th in the WSOP Main Event in the one of the toughest beats I have seen and took that bad beat with class.  Shame on Cardplayer if they do not have a feature story about Tim Phan's rise in the poker world. If he is not in your top five or ten poker players than change it and put this guy on your list.

wow he really played in the big game? thats impressive. tim phan does seem like hes about to really start dominating tournaments in the future.

[SuitedAces21 2,721]

Joe Cassidy by far. Assuming Ivey is not a young gun.

[PhishForChips 0]

The takeover. He is 21 and has been killing all of the highest limit games in the NY area for a few years now. He is also one of the best pool players in the city. Also just took down one of the biggest WPT events of the year recently. Not too many better players than him in the 25 and under range.