turn raise for justblaze

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Villian is 26/10/1.2 over 3000 hands.Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cxPreflop: Hero is BB with 7:heart:, 4:club:. 3 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.Flop: (2 SB) 7:spade:, 6:diamond:, 9:club: (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets, Hero calls.Turn: (3 BB) 6:spade: (2 players)SB bets

[Abbaddabba 0]

Why? Does he fold anything that beats you?All the things that he calls with that you have beat are draws - and you're likely to get a despration bluff bet at the river if you just call the turn, but you virtually never do when you raise.

[Canada 0]

Why?  Does he fold anything that beats you?All the things that he calls with that you have beat are draws - and you're likely to get a despration bluff bet at the river if you just call the turn, but you virtually never do when you raise.

Most of this line equates to the same cost as calling down, but there are a few added bonuses that improve the EV making this a nice line.It might fold a better 7.It gets an extra bet if the SB is drawing eg with an 8It gets an extra bet in if hero improves.It is likely that hero is calling the river if he just calls the turn so it costs no more.Anything that 3-bets or leads the river easily has 2 pair beat.DN has written quizes/articles about it and Jen Harmon mentions it in SS2

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It might fold a better 7.  It gets an extra bet if the SB is drawing eg with an 8  It gets an extra bet in if hero improves.  It is likely that hero is calling the river if he just calls the turn so it costs no more.  Anything that 3-bets or leads the river easily has 2 pair beat.

I like your post but I dislike that your username is Canada and you're from UK. Another benefit of the turn raise is that I'd like to fold overs (villians most likely hand).

[pokerplayer24 0]

It might fold a better 7. It gets an extra bet if the SB is drawing eg with an 8 It gets an extra bet in if hero improves. It is likely that hero is calling the river if he just calls the turn so it costs no more. Anything that 3-bets or leads the river easily has 2 pair beat.

I like your post but I dislike that your username is Canada and you're from UK. Another benefit of the turn raise is that I'd like to fold overs (villians most likely hand).

You don't think the villain is raising overs preflop here?I like the raise for the reasons canada mentioned.I'm assuming you're folding to a 3-bet and checking behind on the river if he just calls?

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I like your post but I dislike that your username is Canada and you're from UK.

You're going to hate that I'm Australian then; although given that you're from western Ireland you're probably cheering me on for being over here pinching the pom's money I took on Canada because around the time I signed up everyone was 'blaming Canada' and I thought they needed a more tangible punching bag...

[justblaze 0]

nh.

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I like your post but I dislike that your username is Canada and you're from UK.

You're going to hate that I'm Australian then; although given that you're from western Ireland you're probably cheering me on for being over here pinching the pom's money I took on Canada because around the time I signed up everyone was 'blaming Canada' and I thought they needed a more tangible punching bag...

I'm not from Ireland. I'm from Newfoundland which is directly across the Atlantic from Ireland. It's sorta like Canada's Ireland, without all the bombings and stuff.I have nothing against UKers either. I just don't like the misleading kind.. :-) Oh, and Austrailia rocks. Why you'd move from suck a beautiful place to the dreary UK is beyond me. Well I guess money could be a reason.

[Abbaddabba 0]

Most of this line equates to the same cost as calling down, but there are a few added bonuses that improve the EV making this a nice line. It might fold a better 7. It gets an extra bet if the SB is drawing eg with an 8 It gets an extra bet in if hero improves. It is likely that hero is calling the river if he just calls the turn so it costs no more. Anything that 3-bets or leads the river easily has 2 pair beat. DN has written quizes/articles about it and Jen Harmon mentions it in SS2

Evaluate it based on hands and what it does to each.You're equally as well off calling if he has an OESD, if he's going to put in a bluff at the river (which seems likely, if he's the type to bet the OESD ont he turn). You win the same. How often does he have a stronger seven? How often does he fold it? Not often. The value of this is minimal when weighted by how likely it is. Anything better than a seven basically always shows their hand down. If he doesnt fold a strong seven, you're equally well off. If he does, then you're much better off. Either way - it's not huge. If he has overcards, raising is a bit better, but not by much if he bluffs UI when you call and folds if you raise.

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Most of this line equates to the same cost as calling down, but there are a few added bonuses that improve the EV making this a nice line. It might fold a better 7. It gets an extra bet if the SB is drawing eg with an 8 It gets an extra bet in if hero improves. It is likely that hero is calling the river if he just calls the turn so it costs no more. Anything that 3-bets or leads the river easily has 2 pair beat. DN has written quizes/articles about it and Jen Harmon mentions it in SS2

Evaluate it based on hands and what it does to each.You're equally as well off calling if he has an OESD, if he's going to put in a bluff at the river (which seems likely, if he's the type to bet the OESD ont he turn). You win the same. How often does he have a stronger seven? How often does he fold it? Not often. The value of this is minimal when weighted by how likely it is. Anything better than a seven basically always shows their hand down. If he doesnt fold a strong seven, you're equally well off. If he does, then you're much better off. Either way - it's not huge. If he has overcards, raising is a bit better, but not by much if he bluffs UI when you call and folds if you raise.

when the decision is extremely close, i go for the more aggressive action. hands do not exist in a vacuum.

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1) He may fold a better hand. While it doesn't happen often, it's huge when he does.2) I pay the same amount of bets anyway (if I get 3-bet, I can safely fold)3) I may win an extra bet on the river if I improve4) If he's bluffing/semibluffing, he won't always bet the river