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[Guest Anonymous]

Shorthanded Posts go here and not in micro right? I hope so. Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converterPreflop: Pancake407 is BB with J:club:, K:club:. 1 fold, Pancake407 calls, MP calls.Was the call here ok?Flop: (6 SB) J:heart:, 9:heart:, T:club: (3 players)SB bets, MP calls, SB calls.I capped hoping I could get MP to fold, didnt work, should I just call the 3-bet, instead of capping?Turn: (9 BB) 4:club: (3 players)SB bets, Pancake407 calls, MP calls.Raised hopping for free showdown, once again got 3-bet, is the raise ok here though?River: (18 BB) A:club: (3 players)SB bets, MP folds, SB calls.Easy raise.Final Pot: 22 BBThoughts on all streets please. Thanks.

[Actuary 3]

preflop:Was the call here ok?yepflopI capped hoping I could get MP to fold, didnt work, should I just call the 3-bet, instead of capping? well played.The gut shot and bdfd in addition to TP2K make this a very strong hand.You still may be trailing the SB, of course. But getting value from MP or having him fold a draw good.Maybe you get a free card on turn, too. But don't take it. Bet.TurnRaised hopping for free showdown, once again got 3-bet, is the raise ok here though? Not good, for reasons stated. But correct in order to try to knock MP off two low hearts or some other draws.Riverman, I love Back door flushes.I think it was really well played.Just had one logic error, imo, but still the right play.I hope to get discussion on this, so I can learn too.

[justblaze 0]

Shorthanded Posts go here and not in micro right? I hope so.  Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converterPreflop: Pancake407 is BB with J:club:, K:club:.    1 fold, Pancake407 calls, MP calls.Was the call here ok?Flop: (6 SB) J:heart:, 9:heart:, T:club: (3 players)SB bets, MP calls, SB calls.I capped hoping I could get MP to fold, didnt work, should I just call the 3-bet, instead of capping?Turn: (9 BB) 4:club: (3 players)SB bets, Pancake407 calls, MP calls.Raised hopping for free showdown, once again got 3-bet, is the raise ok here though?River: (18 BB) A:club: (3 players)SB bets, MP folds, SB calls.Easy raise.Final Pot: 22 BBThoughts on all streets please. Thanks.

depending on SB stats, i might 3bet pf. other than that looks good.edit: i semi bluff turns with big draws all the time, but your fold equity here vs small blind is about 0 and you are probably behind, so flatcall to keep MP2 in is a better line, since you want to keep him around if you hit one of what is likely 15 outs.

[Pancake407 0]

Sorry, forgot to log in. Im the OP.

[Actuary 3]

edit: i semi bluff turns with big draws all the time, but your fold equity here vs small blind is about 0 and you are probably behind, so flatcall to keep MP2 in is a better line, since you want to keep him around if you hit one of what is likely 15 outs.

I'll disagree, cautiously. :-) i know you kick ass in SH.Aren't we risking too much to let MP2 outdraw us?We are ahead sometimes.It's really a matter of how often MP will outdraw us when we woulda beaten the SB, vs, how often MP2 pays us off on the river when we hit.It's a big pot, I lean towards improving our chances, without going thru the math. In a small pot, I don't raise the turn.

[econ_tim 0]

preflop you might 3-bet. it depends how aggressive SB is from the blinds, though.Don't cap the flop. MP has already cold-called so he won't fold to a cap.I would raise the turn too, but I wouldn't expect (and might not take) a free showdown. Raise for value and to protect your hand from MP.

[justblaze 0]

edit: i semi bluff turns with big draws all the time, but your fold equity here vs small blind is about 0 and you are probably behind, so flatcall to keep MP2 in is a better line, since you want to keep him around if you hit one of what is likely 15 outs.

I'll disagree, cautiously. :-) i know you kick ass in SH.Aren't we risking too much to let MP2 outdraw us?We are ahead sometimes.It's really a matter of how often MP will outdraw us when we woulda beaten the SB, vs, how often MP2 pays us off on the river when we hit.It's a big pot, I lean towards improving our chances, without going thru the math. In a small pot, I don't raise the turn.

well, obviously im biased because i see that we get 3bet. if you had submitted this hand without the turn action after we must act, i may be more inclined to agree. given the way the hand played out, i think we are drawing to SB much of the time. OP: dont post the river action on a hand like this. i think the trickiest part is the turn. of course, 3 betting pf will help to define SBs hand. the more i think about this, unless sb is very passive pf, i 3bet pf.

[Actuary 3]

Don't cap the flop. MP has already cold-called so he won't fold to a cap..

Can't we cap for value here?Given our strong draw and a certain call from MP ?It's close, no?

[justblaze 0]

Don't cap the flop. MP has already cold-called so he won't fold to a cap..

Can't we cap for value here?Given our strong draw and a certain call from MP ?It's close, no?

i cap too.