ForRealDD 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 ALL IN YOU MORON!!!!!! No matter what they have youre at worst a 4-1 favorite.Exactly my point. ( See previous post )I agree...hilarious! I would love to be a 4:1 fav against 6 people...PS: Do you play live in Dallas? I do, maybe we know each other.I do live in Dallas, well...now Frisco but I work downtown and play the Dallas games. What games do you play ? Link to post Share on other sites
FileError404 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I do live in Dallas, well...now Frisco but I work downtown and play the Dallas games. What games do you play ?Mostly DPC (dallasplayersclub.com) or Third Pair. Link to post Share on other sites
waldo 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 folding aces in a cash game is possibly the dumbest thing you could ever do, aces will win 30% of the time if everyone plays the hand, if you think folding aces is correct you are an idiot Link to post Share on other sites
ForRealDD 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I do live in Dallas, well...now Frisco but I work downtown and play the Dallas games. What games do you play ?Mostly DPC (dallasplayersclub.com) or Third Pair.Never made the trip to 3rd pair, I get the newsletter though. Played DPC quite a bit. Haven't been in a month or two though. Playing alot online. I was on the points board for a week for the last tourney I played. I'm mostly known as Derek For Real around town or just Derek Link to post Share on other sites
ForRealDD 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 folding aces in a cash game is possibly the dumbest thing you could ever do, aces will win 30% of the time if everyone plays the hand, if you think folding aces is correct you are an idiotOh boy.....see previous replies please. Unless you too, are censored with me...... Link to post Share on other sites
troyomac 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 folding aces in a cash game is possibly the dumbest thing you could ever do, aces will win 30% of the time if everyone plays the hand, if you think folding aces is correct you are an idiotOh boy.....see previous replies please. Unless you too, are censored with me......wow sorry man, did you make a post claiming OP was you, and you're ****ing with us? my bad lol Link to post Share on other sites
tyfgine 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 i think we are being duped by a vet or a complete moron.i beleive it might be a veteran moron, with years of moronic experience under his belt. Link to post Share on other sites
A_Bullets_A 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 That post is obviously a joke and it wasn't a very good one, but it turned out to be good thread. The responses turned out to be pretty funny. I like the "What's Omaha?" part though. LOL. That was pretty funny.I'll give a serious answer too though. There is ONE situation I'd fold Aces. If you're in a satellite tournament and say the top 20 spots get entry into the next event there could be a situation where you should fold aces. If you're somewhere around 5th or something and it's down to 21 people and a player with more chips than you or even close to the same amount as you goes all-in, I think you should fold. You don't really gain anything by winning the hand, but if you get unlucky you lose everything.That's the ONLY time I would fold aces. EVER. Link to post Share on other sites
FileError404 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I do live in Dallas, well...now Frisco but I work downtown and play the Dallas games. What games do you play ?Mostly DPC (dallasplayersclub.com) or Third Pair.Never made the trip to 3rd pair, I get the newsletter though. Played DPC quite a bit. Haven't been in a month or two though. Playing alot online. I was on the points board for a week for the last tourney I played. I'm mostly known as Derek For Real around town or just DerekHmmm, I'm bad with names but I'm sure I know you when I see you if you've been to DPCs... I practically live there.$60 tourney tonight. I'll be there. Link to post Share on other sites
ForRealDD 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 What's your first name ? Link to post Share on other sites
ForRealDD 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 That's the ONLY time I would fold aces. Â EVER.Agreed. Many of the top pros also agree they would fold if they were down to the last 3 or 4 of a major, are so short stacked, doubling or tripling will do no good, and two or more equivelent stacked players move in, where folding will almost guarantee an extra 200,000. I have no problem folding A-A for a quarter million. Link to post Share on other sites
FileError404 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 That's the ONLY time I would fold aces. Â EVER.Agreed. Many of the top pros also agree they would fold if they were down to the last 3 or 4 of a major, are so short stacked, doubling or tripling will do no good, and two or more equivelent stacked players move in, where folding will almost guarantee an extra 200,000. I have no problem folding A-A for a quarter million.I folded AA once. In a satellite where my spot was guaranteed. Link to post Share on other sites
tswing 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I just ran through the poker calculator. I put in 4 hands preflop, AA, J10s, 78s, 55The aces at this point were 50 percent to win with second best being 20 percent. Obviously this thread is a joke, but that is how it comes out with 4 hands Link to post Share on other sites
jaaaaakke 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 people folding AA preflop is +EV for meeeeeeeeeeeee Link to post Share on other sites
TS Clark 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I didn't slog all the way through the post and the OP is probably completely kidding. But the great quote from Doyle Brunson when he was asked if there was ever a situation where he would fold AA pre-flop, he said: "The day I fold aces before the flop is the day I stop playing poker."Well said. Well spoken. Link to post Share on other sites
ForRealDD 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Hmmm, I'm bad with names but I'm sure I know you when I see you if you've been to DPCs... I practically live there.$60 tourney tonight. I'll be there.You a dealer? Link to post Share on other sites
The Bwaves 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I was at a local B&M and happend to pick up a cardplayer and read an article written by Phil Hellmuth about laying down aces.I've yet to experience this, I guess I'm fortunate my aces usually hold up; Let me just find the article.Ah, here it is:http://www.cardplayer.com/poker_magazine/a...4576&m_id=65557 Link to post Share on other sites
Stackraider 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 This reminds me of my girlfriend playing blackjack. She gets dealt an 11 with a dealer 6 showing and I tell her to double down. She says "no, i don't have a good feeling about it." WTF? A good feeling? If you are gonna play, play right! If you really do play that way, please let me know so I can be there to collect. Link to post Share on other sites
badasmybreath 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 are you playing Omaha? Â If you are playing hold em, you are an idiot my friend...What the heck is omaha? Yes it's hold em, what other game do you get aces in? I think espn just say its the best starting hand because they want more suckers for their events. and saying 72 is the worst hand is just rediculous 23 is. Any idiot would know that ace king suited is the best hand because you can make royal flushes with it all the time.Is this guy serious? I hope not.I dont think you guys would know sarcasm if it came up behind you, slipped it in, neglected the reach around and added a donkey punch for a touch of class. Link to post Share on other sites
The Bwaves 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 are you playing Omaha? Â If you are playing hold em, you are an idiot my friend...What the heck is omaha? Yes it's hold em, what other game do you get aces in? I think espn just say its the best starting hand because they want more suckers for their events. and saying 72 is the worst hand is just rediculous 23 is. Any idiot would know that ace king suited is the best hand because you can make royal flushes with it all the time.Is this guy serious? I hope not.I dont think you guys would know sarcasm if it came up behind you, slipped it in, neglected the reach around and added a donkey punch for a touch of class.11 posts and that's the best one yet.Well done. Link to post Share on other sites
FileError404 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Hmmm, I'm bad with names but I'm sure I know you when I see you if you've been to DPCs... I practically live there.$60 tourney tonight. I'll be there.You a dealer?I sent you a message, and no. My shuffling skillz are not up to par Link to post Share on other sites
case ace 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 this thread is bordering on morton theorum. which basically says after 5 players per hand your ev on aces becomes negative. go to card player and use the odds calc to see when they become unprofitable. or you can read my gutshot article about it.you do have to remember though when 3 or four prople are in the pot altough you win less frequently, you are also getting 3 or 4 to 1 or your money.check out my article too.http://gutshot.com/articles/473.htmlEDIT: The op was NL?if so, no way, you play to the felt in NL. In limit, up front, morton's way warrants a smooth call UTG Link to post Share on other sites
ForRealDD 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 which basically says after 5 players per hand your ev on aces becomes  negative.  Assuming they all call your hefty preflop reraise. If you're in late pos and allow that many to take a flop, you belong on the felt. Link to post Share on other sites
Longshanks 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 i tend to reraise with aces, but ive only been playing for like a year so i guess im a donk Link to post Share on other sites
Stylin_Fish 0 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 The OP must hate money. Link to post Share on other sites
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