rules clarification...

[CoolHandLaw 0]

Hey All,I just saw this comment in a tournment rules flyer from a local casino. I can't confirm what they are really saying and if they are saying what I think they're saying then it sounds like a stupid rule to me."A player may not be eliminated from the tournament by way of the chip race. If a player loses the race he or she will be given one chip of the smallest denomination still in play"Can you clarify?

[turd ferguson 1]

It's referring to when they trade the smaller chips out for bigger ones. If you have an odd number of small chips so that they don't convert evenly into the larger denominations sometimes you lose some value. They're just saying that if you're very short stacked, they cannot change the chips out in a manner that would leave you without any chips. I hope I helped.

[CoolHandLaw 0]

Yeah, i guess that makes sense...but how does a player 'lose a chip race'?

[fjandans 0]

i have read that they deal each player at the table a card, and the player with the highest card wins the leftover chips. anyone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.it's happened before, once.

[turd ferguson 1]

Yeah, i guess that makes sense...but how does a player 'lose a chip race'?

It's just referring to the people who get "screwed" out of some chips when they change them out. Sometimes you gain value during the chip race, and sometimes you lose. It's randomly decided who will lose or gain chips.

[Socrates 0]

Yeah, i guess that makes sense...but how does a player 'lose a chip race'?

It's just referring to the people who get "screwed" out of some chips when they change them out. Sometimes you gain value during the chip race, and sometimes you lose. It's randomly decided who will lose or gain chips.

Just for a simple explanantion:say a player is down to his last 3 T5 chips, meaning he has a stack of 15 chips. Next round blinds go up to 25/50. He would be involved in the chip race and get three cards, if he happens to lose, he can not be knocked out of the tournament. 10 extra chips would be put into play in order to provide him with 1 lowest denomination chip in play. He would be given a $25 chip.

[Rob-L 0]

They can lose if they don't get to color up. For example,It's the time in the touney to color up the green $25 chips to $100 chips because the 25 denom is no longer needed. Blinds are 300/600 with a 100 ante, for instance.Everyone takes they're $25 chips and the dealer converts them to higher denomination chips. (aka "coloring up")So lets say you have $175 in $25 chips, you'd get one $100 chip and the other three $25 chips that cannot be converted enter the "chip race" against the other player's odd $25 chips.So you have 3 $25 chips, player B has 2 $25 chips and Player A has three $25 for a total of $200 in odd $25 chips. This means that two $100 dollar chips have to be awarded.To determine who gets the chips and who does not each player gets one card for each odd $25 chip that they have. So you get three cards, Player B gets 2 cards, Player C gets 3 cards. The high cards get the chips. (But each player is allowed only ONE of the higher denomination chips regardless of how many high cards they hold. )So, say you get dealt A-A-3Player B gets K 3Player C gets J 5 2Player C "loses" the chip race. You get one of the available 2 $100 chips and player B gets the other. The rule you are asking about says that if Player C only had those three $25 chips when the chip race began, he cannot be knocked out by losing teh chip race.Depending on the casino, they may just give him one $100 chip and race off as normal, or just make one less higher denom chip available for racing off.

[case ace 0]

Yeah, i guess that makes sense...but how does a player 'lose a chip race'?

It's just referring to the people who get "screwed" out of some chips when they change them out. Sometimes you gain value during the chip race, and sometimes you lose. It's randomly decided who will lose or gain chips.

Just for a simple explanantion:say a player is down to his last 3 T5 chips, meaning he has a stack of 15 chips. Next round blinds go up to 25/50. He would be involved in the chip race and get three cards, if he happens to lose, he can not be knocked out of the tournament. 10 extra chips would be put into play in order to provide him with 1 lowest denomination chip in play. He would be given a $25 chip.

i has happened to a freind of mine. 4 hours of play to get broke with high card

[srblan 0]

i have read that they deal each player at the table a card, and the player with the highest card wins the leftover chips. anyone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong.it's happened before, once.

Close. When chips are raced off, all players with that chip exchange their chips for those of the higher denomination. Any players with left over chips will be given one card for each leftover they have. All of the leftovers are pooled together and and colored up to the higher denomination. If there is more than one chip left, the player with the highest card wins it, then he is out of the race (even if he has three aces dealt to him, he wins one chip). The player with the next highest card gets the second chip, then he's removed from the race, and so on. Incidentally, I've never seen more than two or three chips in a race off and I'd be pretty surprised if it was possible to have too many more than that.

[Socrates 0]

Yeah, i guess that makes sense...but how does a player 'lose a chip race'?

It's just referring to the people who get "screwed" out of some chips when they change them out. Sometimes you gain value during the chip race, and sometimes you lose. It's randomly decided who will lose or gain chips.

Just for a simple explanantion:say a player is down to his last 3 T5 chips, meaning he has a stack of 15 chips. Next round blinds go up to 25/50. He would be involved in the chip race and get three cards, if he happens to lose, he can not be knocked out of the tournament. 10 extra chips would be put into play in order to provide him with 1 lowest denomination chip in play. He would be given a $25 chip.

i has happened to a freind of mine. 4 hours of play to get broke with high card

It was wrong to do that. He can not go out via a chip race.

[Painter567 0]

They can lose if they don't get to color up. For example,It's the time in the touney to color up the green $25 chips to $100 chips because the 25 denom is no longer needed. Blinds are 300/600 with a 100 ante, for instance.Everyone takes they're $25 chips and the dealer converts them to higher denomination chips. (aka "coloring up")So lets say you have $175 in $25 chips, you'd get one $100 chip and the other three $25 chips that cannot be converted enter the "chip race" against the other player's odd $25 chips.So you have 3 $25 chips, player B has 2 $25 chips and Player A has three $25 for a total of $200 in odd $25 chips. This means that two $100 dollar chips have to be awarded.To determine who gets the chips and who does not each player gets one card for each odd $25 chip that they have. So you get three cards, Player B gets 2 cards, Player C gets 3 cards. The high cards get the chips. (But each player is allowed only ONE of the higher denomination chips regardless of how many high cards they hold. )So, say you get dealt A-A-3Player B gets K 3Player C gets J 5 2Player C "loses" the chip race. You get one of the available 2 $100 chips and player B gets the other. The rule you are asking about says that if Player C only had those three $25 chips when the chip race began, he cannot be knocked out by losing teh chip race.Depending on the casino, they may just give him one $100 chip and race off as normal, or just make one less higher denom chip available for racing off.

Very well explained

[KDawgCometh 2]

gonna put this in the B&M section. I think that anyone who has any floor ruling questions those should also go in the B&M section