best online poker

[Chez52 0]

Hey Guys......I was thinking about finally giving online poker a try.....I feel now that games in my area are lacking I need something to keep me sharp and play money tables really arent doing it.....I mostly play on Ultimate Bet......I was wondering what you guys think is the best site to play on online.....by best site I mean there actually good players there....not people have no idea what they are doing.....I was thinking about buying in for like $50-$100 dollars.....so if you can tell me which sites have the best games on lower limits.....if i like it I would put in more money, but for now i want to just try it outThanks

[theresa113 0]

I think the overall consensus is that Poker Stars has the best players. If you want to make money, than Party Poker has the most fish.Check out the Online Poker section of the forum. Lots of oppinions on the best site, etc.

[Backler 0]

I'm always reading that Party Poker has the most fish. While i'm sure this is very true, (after all, I play there!) it might be one of the hardest sites to consistantly beat the low limit games (.50/1, 1/2) I swear, I quit playing there all together recently because of the amount of worthless players there.I don't have much money to blow on online poker, i just play to learn and try to slowly build a bankroll. Those limits have just about became impossible for people who try to consistantly play correctly.AT PARTY POKER LOW LIMIT HOLD'EM, PEOPLE WILL CALL YOU DOWN WITH ANYTHING AND PULL A FLUSH OR STRAIGHT ON THE RIVER!!!!!!!Unless it's just my bad luck, it is becoming obvious that those tables are becoming flooded with people that have way too much time, and more importantly way to much money. It's so tough to maintain anything there when 85% of the time, 4 or 5 people are involved in the showdown. If you have top pair, someone has 2 pair, if you have trips, someone has a flush, you have a straight, they have etc..........I'm not saying it can't be beaten, i know it can, i'm just saying that, while fish are good, i don't care how good a player someone is, if you are sitting at a table with you and 8 clueless players, the skill factor takes a backseat to the luck factor. It's just tough to beat people who play so poorly I know, I know, all it takes is discipline and really stick it to them when the time is right, but i'd rather punch myself in the face than fold 2 zillian hands waiting for the nuts just to get my blinds back.

[Chez52 0]

Well I guess Party Poker is out.....If im going to lose my money I dont want to lose it to some idiot that sticks around with a flush draw and hits all the time......Id rather lose it to a skilled player who knows what theyare doing.....It would be more profitable for me to play with more skilled players and it would hlep my game better.....So keeping that in mind.....where do the "better" players usually play

[DiverDown4 0]

I know, I know, all it takes is discipline and really stick it to them when the time is right, but i'd rather punch myself in the face than fold 2 zillian hands waiting for the nuts just to get my blinds back.

Quit poker for 2 months, dont play, study, study, study, take 1200, deposit it, play .50/1 until you beat it for 100/bb then go to 1-2 and so on. Youll be amazed how much you "DONT KNOW" about poker until you quit and concentrate full time on "Studying" the game. I did it, and contrary to what you say, I've been dominating the .50-1 game. Sure there are terrible bad beats, but for every 1 of those you lose, you win 5 monsterous pots. Party poker is the best site to play. Period.

[deadmoney4u 0]

Hey Man! play money is good for a little light relief with no risk but pretty worthless for money game knowledge. All I can say for play money is that you can learn your hand rankings.............Then you have to read a book on Low Limit Poker even before you depost a buck!!!!Really! Read that book over then make your real money deposit 'cos that will make your first $50 last over a week, not just a few hours!I have only been playing since last November but I have over 500hrs of experience of playing poker on the net (due to a major accident that left me with 2 very busted up legs). Without a doubt Poker Stars is the best, that is if you want to improve your game by playing some really good players (and have a lot of fun giving them a bad day ).I only have a small bankroll as I cannot work at this time so I only deposit the minimum at "PS" $50. With this small amount I find $5.50 SNG's the best value for money and poker education and table time. I have good days and bad the same as everyone but can make the $50 last up to 30 days, (peaking at $135).Good luck 2U !! :-)

[akishore 0]

Id rather lose it to a skilled player who knows what theyare doing.....It would be more profitable for me to play with more skilled players and it would hlep my game better.....

listen, i don't mean this post as a flame, and i don't mean to sound like an ass... but this is by far the most wrong statement i have read on the site. contrary to what EVERYONE says...you make money beating BAD players. you do not make money beating GOOD players. you WANT loose games where you have five callers chasing you to the river. you WANT as many fish as you can.the only difference between playing against good players and bad players is that with bad players, you'll have more swings. but there is no doubt that you will make much more off the bad players than you will make off the good players.believe it or not, if you can't beat the bad players, the fish... how do you expect to beat people who know what they're doing, who can outplay you every hand?if you flop top set and fill up on the turn, don't you want a five-way capped pot as four of them are drawing dead to straights/flushes while the other guy has bottom two pair??at the higher limits and the better sites, you will only get action when you're beat, and it'll be folded over to you when you're not. that's NOT what you want.if you want to make money online, stop chasing this stupid myth that you're gonna be more profitable playing against good players. i highly recommend party poker or poker stars, the two biggest sites, because they have the most fish at the lower limits.sorry if this sounds pissed off, i'm tired of hearing people argue these myths. be stubborn and ignore me, do whatever you want, but i guarantee any profitable winning poker player will tell you the same thing.aseem

[akishore 0]

before i get 400 replies where people argue against my above post, let me make a few points.1. if you can't beat the low limit game, it's YOU who's playing bad poker, or at least incorrect for the game. top pair does not hold up in a six-way pot, so adjust your play accordingly. unimproved pocket aces will not hold up in a nine-way pot (i've had this happen to me), so learn to lay them down.2. sure you will lose lots of pots, but understand that poker is NOT about winning pots... it's about winning MONEY. the pots you win will be massive because you will have five people in the pot to the river.3. don't have the mentality and fear that people will "draw out on you" to the river. if you have the best hand, you bet and bet and let them draw out on you, because more often than not, you will win the pot. e.g. if you have a straight and someone is chasing a flush draw, two out of three times they won't hit, so you will win two big pots those two times and lose just one pot the third time. you WANT people drawing on you, because when they miss, you will have a massive pot.4. again, if you can't beat the game, the game's not the problem... YOU are.aseem

[DiverDown4 0]

youre 100% correct. I used to be one that hated PP because of the bad beats.....then i learned (somewhat) how to play the game, i love PP more than ever! They didnt beat me, i beat myself, i sucked...people need to admit that to themselves

[Chez52 0]

Id rather lose it to a skilled player who knows what theyare doing.....It would be more profitable for me to play with more skilled players and it would hlep my game better.....

listen, i don't mean this post as a flame, and i don't mean to sound like an ass... but this is by far the most wrong statement i have read on the site. contrary to what EVERYONE says...you make money beating BAD players. you do not make money beating GOOD players. you WANT loose games where you have five callers chasing you to the river. you WANT as many fish as you can.the only difference between playing against good players and bad players is that with bad players, you'll have more swings. but there is no doubt that you will make much more off the bad players than you will make off the good players.believe it or not, if you can't beat the bad players, the fish... how do you expect to beat people who know what they're doing, who can outplay you every hand?if you flop top set and fill up on the turn, don't you want a five-way capped pot as four of them are drawing dead to straights/flushes while the other guy has bottom two pair??at the higher limits and the better sites, you will only get action when you're beat, and it'll be folded over to you when you're not. that's NOT what you want.if you want to make money online, stop chasing this stupid myth that you're gonna be more profitable playing against good players. i highly recommend party poker or poker stars, the two biggest sites, because they have the most fish at the lower limits.sorry if this sounds censored off, i'm tired of hearing people argue these myths. be stubborn and ignore me, do whatever you want, but i guarantee any profitable winning poker player will tell you the same thing.aseem

I like playing against bad players.....but in live games since they are so easy to read. Online you really cant stop any tells....I mean you have a good idea of what thier hands might be, but not nearly as good as in a live game.....Also playing online with these bad players really takes a lot of skill out of the game it turns it more into luck. I mean you can have pocket aces and play them the right way and still lose at that table were at another table you will win the hand......PLaying against bad players online really doesnt do anything for your skill level...its boring.....you have to be really pataint to win in those....I get what you are saying......I just want to become a better player....and playing bad people online isnt the way I wanted to do it....but I guess I cant escape it.....oh well.....I guess ill just build up a bankroll and move up to high limit table where hopfully there are more skilled players

[Mattnxtc 0]

Always thought that Stars was the way to go...But its been one bad beat after another... So far today I have ace queen busted by a jack 2 and queens beat by garbage and all so stars just has a bunch of chasers from what i can tell

[akishore 0]

Also playing online with these bad players really takes a lot of skill out of the game it turns it more into luck. I mean you can have pocket aces and play them the right way and still lose at that table were at another table you will win the hand......PLaying against bad players online really doesnt do anything for your skill level...its boring.....you have to be really pataint to win in those....

i've pitched in my two cents, and i'm not gonna defend it to my death. i have a lot of objections with your statements above, but i don't pretend to know everything. if playing against skilled players at higher limits is really what you want, then do what you want.just one quick note: it doesn't matter if you lose the hand with pocket aces. it'll take some time and lots of poker hands to appreciate that the bigger picture matters more--you can lose 4 out of 5 pots with aces, but if that 5th pot's profit offsets those 4 other losses, you're playing them right.aseemp.s. if you think all the pros beat the low limits through a lot of luck rather than skill, you're mistaken. patience is one characteristic that's vital to any skillset when it comes to poker at any limits against any players.p.s.s. really, i'm not trying to flame, i'm sorry if this sounds like a bitter post. good luck with your game, i'm done with this thread.