"high stakes poker: final day"

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All Phil's bracelets have been in Hold 'Em. There are not two people ahead of him.

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All Phil's bracelets have been in Hold 'Em. There are not two people ahead of him.

I meant total bracelets not just in hold'em.

[tyfgine 0]

I really wish I could get GSN. I went to their site a while ago. I must have registered on the site, I have no clue why. They sent me a happy birthday email. Kind of funny, since I can't see any of their programming.Anyway, I hope GSN is smart enoght to put their poker shows on DVD. I know I would buy it.Or, maybe they can talk to Brighthouse in Central Florida and get Brighthouse to start airing their channel. I can think of lots of channels I will be more than willing to give up. Like, who watches the Animal Channel anyway? Anyway, I am going to send a letter to my cable company right now instead of complaining on a forum.

While GSN does have a lot of poker shows, most of them are Celebrities vs. Poker Pro's, or Comedians vs. Poker Pro's etc. The formats usually have a structure where the blinds increase rather quickly too, so its usually not a good game where people are playing great poker, it's more of a rush to see who can gather chips quickly against unskilled players. So, you're not missing anything great, but it is poker on TV nonetheless.

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O.K. So let me get this right? Phil Helmuth, Youngest Player to win the WSOP MAin Event. Winner of more then 10 Wsop tourneys and winner of the HEAD TO HEAD CHAMPIONSHIP is the worst player at the table? ANHHHHHHHHHH WRONG!! HE totally Dominated the head to head matches. Yes he is a sore looser but that guy can read other players hands better then Doyle any day. MAybe snd Only DAniel is a better reader of other players hands.

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O.K. So let me get this right? Phil Helmuth, Youngest Player to win the WSOP MAin Event. Winner of more then 10 Wsop tourneys and winner of the HEAD TO HEAD CHAMPIONSHIP is the worst player at the table? ANHHHHHHHHHH WRONG!! HE totally Dominated the head to head matches. Yes he is a sore looser but that guy can read other players hands better then Doyle any day. MAybe snd Only DAniel is a better reader of other players hands.

If hes the winner of more than 10 WSOP tourrnaments, why is it he only has 9 WSOP bracelets, i cant figure this out.

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I'd be willing to bet that if Phil Hellmuth wouldn't be such a sore loser and have so many antics in every hand that he would get 100X more respect than he does now. Most donks disregard all his career stats which are staggaring just because he whines. While you may not like his antics, you can't disregard all of his accomplishments and say that hes not up there with the top hold'em players in the world.

[blueodum 0]

I've said this before and I'll say it again.I have respect for Hellmuth's past accomplishments. I don't think he's accomplished very much in recent years, and I've heard time and time again from various pros that Phil is a fish in mid and high stakes cash games (which he basically avoids, just for that reason).And even if he were to win a bunch of tourneys in the next few years I still wouldn't like him. I would respect him more as a tournament player, but that's where my respect would end.The antics, whining and disrespect to novice players (or even simply players he doesn't know; e.g. going off on Fischman last year) are only part of the reason I dislike him. It's beyond me how a player who is a fish at cash games can refer to himself as one of the greatest poker players alive. Until you play high stakes poker against the best and can at least hold your own, you haven't earned yourself the right to call yourself a top pro. Period.

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O.K. So let me get this right? Phil Helmuth, Youngest Player to win the WSOP MAin Event. Winner of more then 10 Wsop tourneys and winner of the HEAD TO HEAD CHAMPIONSHIP is the worst player at the table? ANHHHHHHHHHH WRONG!! HE totally Dominated the head to head matches. Yes he is a sore looser but that guy can read other players hands better then Doyle any day. MAybe snd Only DAniel is a better reader of other players hands.

Were you watching the same heads up match as the rest of us? I saw him suck out several times from terrible spots... And, about those 10+ WSOP events, he should talk to someone about collecting the rest of the bracelets.

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O.K. So let me get this right? Phil Helmuth, Youngest Player to win the WSOP MAin Event. Winner of more then 10 Wsop tourneys and winner of the HEAD TO HEAD CHAMPIONSHIP is the worst player at the table? ANHHHHHHHHHH WRONG!! HE totally Dominated the head to head matches. Yes he is a sore looser but that guy can read other players hands better then Doyle any day. MAybe snd Only DAniel is a better reader of other players hands.

Were you watching the same heads up match as the rest of us? I saw him suck out several times from terrible spots... And, about those 10+ WSOP events, he should talk to someone about collecting the rest of the bracelets.

Everyone sucked out there. It was heads up!! Phil played very well especially against Chris and the final and he deserved to win. You have to admit that at least.

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Sorry to drag up an old thread, but are there any thoughts on how Antonio picked up from DN's conversation that his hand was good?...and by the way, Phil is (used to be) a great NLHE tournament player, but he can't play in cash games for love or, more importantly, money

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Sorry to drag up an old thread, but are there any thoughts on how Antonio picked up from DN's conversation that his hand was good?...and by the way, Phil is (used to be) a great NLHE tournament player, but he can't play in cash games for love or, more importantly, money

How long ago was the TOC?

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How long ago was the TOC?

and how did he actually qualify for it?and how long ago did he last sit at a 4000/8000 tableor 2000/4000?or 1000/2000?or even 400/800 for that matter? I mean, he's got all the mobney hasn't he?Don't like Daniels assesment of him? Go find Barry Greenstein's, or Johnny Chan's or Paul Phillip's.He's a jopke and an extreme niche specialist, who had his day when the tournament circuit was a lot softer.He will hang around for a few more years like a bad smell, but after that he will only be known for his marketing of his historic results.There are no big comebacks on the horizon for the ego that is Phil Hellmuth

[chrozzo 19]

You all keep talking about this Phil Hellmuth. Who the heck is Phil Hellmuth!?!?

[Moe 0]

I think this High Stakes poker was GREAT idea... I wanted to see somehting like this for a while..especially with Doyle, DN, Hellmuth, Magician, etc..Can't wait till this airs!!

[7upncider 0]

I like everyones entries about phil its pretty funny. Ooh how do you not know phil only has 9 wsop bracelets. Also ive watched him play cash games and I dont consider myself good but someone back me and we will become rich.

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How long ago was the TOC?

and how did he actually qualify for it?and how long ago did he last sit at a 4000/8000 tableor 2000/4000?or 1000/2000?or even 400/800 for that matter? I mean, he's got all the mobney hasn't he?Don't like Daniels assesment of him? Go find Barry Greenstein's, or Johnny Chan's or Paul Phillip's.He's a jopke and an extreme niche specialist, who had his day when the tournament circuit was a lot softer.He will hang around for a few more years like a bad smell, but after that he will only be known for his marketing of his historic results.There are no big comebacks on the horizon for the ego that is Phil Hellmuth

buddy, we were talking about him being a great NLH tournament player not cash games. I guess 9 WSOP bracelets all in ****.ing hold'em mean nothing. I'm sure you could do much better. All the pros say hes not a good cash game player but we're talking about tournaments here. Phil Hellmuth is a GREAT nlh tournament player and anyone who disagrees with that is a noob.

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Im gonna attempt something here, maybe this will go to hell but I'm willing to try.The question was: why did everybody "attack" PH?And the answer was: Several reasons, first of all he steams easily and starts to play very badly and also it's fun to win over a person who thinks he is better than everyone else.Now here i've broken it down for some of you and the *correct reaction would be: Ahh ok, thanks for explaining. It could also be: "Interesting! I've always wondered what separated the very top players from one another.. and this might be ONE thing."But instead it went something like this: "ARE YOU CRAZY?? I SAW THAT DUDE PLAY ON TV AND HE WAS GRRREAT!! DUDE, MAN, YOU BETTER SEE THOSE TAPES AGAIN LIKE I HAVE ONE TRILLION TIMES! WAIT HOLD ON *Mooom im playing a five dollar sit n go, don't disturb me when im WORKING, this DONKFISH thinks he can get away from the fact that there are only two-three hands you can raise preflop with!* WHERE WAS I? OH, HERE WE GO, YEAH, MAN, PH RULES!! DONKYFISHDONKIES!!Now I have to admit to editing some of this, so these aren't authentic quoutes but like the good tabloids I masterfully read between the lines.I seriosly don't get pokerfans, I do get people who plays poker, who also finds themselves to have alot in common with other pokerplayers but i don't get the kinds who are more focused on someone others game than oneselves' (is that a friggin' word? so sue me, im Swedish). However it makes good readin' when you are bored like me, obviously, now.Cheerio ol' chum-chaps just noticed the little bickering you had here and i had to, just like every other idiot toss my two cents into the cesspool.

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If the question is "Is Phil Hellmuth a great NHLH tournament player?" then only a donkey would say no. 9 WSOP HOLD'EM bracelets. They speak for themself. If the question is anything other than that then the answer maybe no.http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=117