Advice for Daniel

[missIdaho 1]

Anyways, the advice was for Daniel, not you jackasses.  I hope he sees it and listens to it.  Canadians feel a lot of pride to see Daniel excelling and we wish him only the best.  I feel sorry for you poor, bitter, losing players...

You said you sent him an email before. Why not send another? If he chooses not to respond, oh well. This advice came off as insulting IMHO. I'm sure DN can figure out his own job.edit: If DN needs career advice, he has a number of very successful poker pro friends to give him counsel.

ditto

[CrAcKeDaCeS 0]

You know, I've been on this forum for a while, don't post a whole lot, but just throw my 2 cents in every once in a while...and I really try my best not to flame people.....HOWEVER....Does the OP really think that A) he knows Daniel well enough to offer advice B) that Daniel gives a shite what he thinks or C) Just b/c he's older and Canadian that his advice all of a sudden becomes the gospel?I (god help me) agree with Ron and the above posters...if Daniel wanted your advice, he would have asked you.I'm cranky, I need a drink.

[Beerfly 0]

wow tough crowd

We're pretty nice to people who bring something intelligent to the table.

I have seen that on the odd occaison.....Not often, but sometimes.

[Tateisgo 0]

I am an OLD friend of Daniel...

Who decided to wait till he was giving out free stuff before joining his website.

[Socko669 0]

Retarded, so retarded. STFU NEWB.

[Brownbeard 0]

Thank-you T-Dot. Yes, I am from Stony Plain, Alberta.And I even thank the rest of you for bashing me so hard. I think it thickened my skin and led to a couple of nice tournaments this weekend. I only played two, and I won the first one (out of 1258 players) and I finished 2nd out of 180 players in a torpedo (7 split) tournament.

[SHOTPUTSTAR 0]

I'm kind of a big deal, you may have heard of meI'm canadianI have MANY leather bound booksI am a few years older than danielAnd my appartment smells of rich mahogony!!

[Greg Kelley 0]

You guys are an army of worshipers. Sometimes you really gang up on people for no reason.There was nothing wrong with the OP. He didn't say anything out of line. He wasn't condescending. He stated his advice in clear, concise, and well thought out manner.But of course, he gets instantly burned up by a crowd that is "appalled" that anyone might have the audacity to give "advice to Mr. Daniel Negreanu himself. And then there is always the guy that points out "post count". The content of the post should be the issue at bar, not how many times he has submitted one.Daniel Negreanu is the first person to say that he should not be worshipped or treated like a "celebrity". He has posted in his own blog many times that he thinks putting poker players on such a high pedestal is ridiculous. Yet, there are so many here that are outraged when a poster, especially a "newbie" posts anything other than complete adulation for our host.Pretend for a moment that this post came from someone that you would quantify as being on an equal plane to Daniel Negreanu in terms of "poker ability." Would you flame him as well? I just don't get it.

[Fullhouse7 0]

IMHO, Daniel is multitasking and, therefore, all we have to do is see the results. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so STFU!!!

[JSHamm 9]

Pretend for a moment that this post came from someone that you would quantify as being on an equal plane to Daniel Negreanu in terms of "poker ability." Would you flame him as well? I just don't get it.

Point well taken; however, someone on an "equal plane" may have done so more privately than posting advice in a general forum. To each his own, though.

[Jeepster80125 0]

You guys are an army of worshipers. Sometimes you really gang up on people for no reason.There was nothing wrong with the OP. He didn't say anything out of line. He wasn't condescending. He stated his advice in clear, concise, and well thought out manner.But of course, he gets instantly burned up by a crowd that is "appalled" that anyone might have the audacity to give "advice to Mr. Daniel Negreanu himself. And then there is always the guy that points out "post count". The content of the post should be the issue at bar, not how many times he has submitted one.Daniel Negreanu is the first person to say that he should not be worshipped or treated like a "celebrity". He has posted in his own blog many times that he thinks putting poker players on such a high pedestal is ridiculous. Yet, there are so many here that are outraged when a poster, especially a "newbie" posts anything other than complete adulation for our host.Pretend for a moment that this post came from someone that you would quantify as being on an equal plane to Daniel Negreanu in terms of "poker ability." Would you flame him as well? I just don't get it.

You're right. You don't get it. If this post came from Phil Gordon or Phil Ivey, it would be different. They actually know what they are talking about. My advice for the OP would be to sell his car and his house, and invest in oil futures with every dime that he has. Now, I sell health insurance and know nothing of futures, but I am still giving this guy advice. Do you see how advising someone else about things you know nothing about is a dumb idea?

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

You guys are an army of worshipers. Sometimes you really gang up on people for no reason.There was nothing wrong with the OP. He didn't say anything out of line. He wasn't condescending. He stated his advice in clear, concise, and well thought out manner.But of course, he gets instantly burned up by a crowd that is "appalled" that anyone might have the audacity to give "advice to Mr. Daniel Negreanu himself. And then there is always the guy that points out "post count". The content of the post should be the issue at bar, not how many times he has submitted one.Daniel Negreanu is the first person to say that he should not be worshipped or treated like a "celebrity". He has posted in his own blog many times that he thinks putting poker players on such a high pedestal is ridiculous. Yet, there are so many here that are outraged when a poster, especially a "newbie" posts anything other than complete adulation for our host.Pretend for a moment that this post came from someone that you would quantify as being on an equal plane to Daniel Negreanu in terms of "poker ability." Would you flame him as well? I just don't get it.

You're right. You don't get it. If this post came from Phil Gordon or Phil Ivey, it would be different. They actually know what they are talking about. My advice for the OP would be to sell his car and his house, and invest in oil futures with every dime that he has. Now, I sell health insurance and know nothing of futures, but I am still giving this guy advice. Do you see how advising someone else about things you know nothing about is a dumb idea?

Wouldn't waste your time J. They obviously doesn't get from the whole thread that people shouldn't give advice about such personal things when they have no personal knowledge. You can't teach a monkey not to crap in its diaper.I'm not sure what that means, but it came to me as I was typing.

[mjb268 0]

what are the odds that the dn's long last friend tries to ambush him with an intervention

[Rasty 0]

This thread is exactly why I'm saddened by the attempt to control flaming.Without the 'survival of the fittest post' mentality, sludge like this will propogate until this becomes little more than poker group therapy.FCP's job is to put bad posters into group therapy, not help them through it.Now does anyone have some oil futures they want to trade for a house?

[Greg Kelley 0]

I take it from your replies that your answer is, "No, I would not flame that person.Got it.So the flaming pretty much has NOTHING to do with what the OP said and EVERYTHING to do with who said it.Got it. Just want to get on the same page as far as you "rules" for what is acceptable around here. Is is something like this, "If you don't have a bracelet...shut the fuc.k up?" I am seriously asking....Greg

[Ralphy 0]

Just to play the devil's advocate for a minute, I have often wondered if some of the top pros might ever get too caught up in other things and have that affect their game.In DN's case it may be that he is on overload (although he may not be). i don't think it is my place to caution him on that.Antonio Esfandiari comes to mind as a player who might be walking the razor's edge. It seems that quite a bit of his life revolves around clubbing, boozing it up, late hours.From DN's blog Antonio might have lost $200,000 of his own money a few days ago. They were tough beats though. Antonio's cockiness makes me want to see him go down in flames. Here's hoping...

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

I take it from your replies that your answer is, "No, I would not flame that person.Got it.So the flaming pretty much has NOTHING to do with what the OP said and EVERYTHING to do with who said it.Got it. Just want to get on the same page as far as you "rules" for what is acceptable around here. Is is something like this, "If you don't have a bracelet...shut the fuc.k up?" I am seriously asking....Greg

Wrong again. I don't care how many posts you have, if you don't know DN personally and aren't privy to his daily life, where do you get off telling him what is good for him? Bracelet, no bracelet. Don't give complete strangers life advice.Dr. Phil doesn't help people. Dime store psychology should be done away with.If that isn't clear enough. Drink a bottle of windex.

[iveyfan30 0]

I take it from your replies that your answer is, "No, I would not flame that person.Got it.So the flaming pretty much has NOTHING to do with what the OP said and EVERYTHING to do with who said it.Got it. Just want to get on the same page as far as you "rules" for what is acceptable around here. Is is something like this, "If you don't have a bracelet...shut the fuc.k up?" I am seriously asking....Greg

Wrong again. I don't care how many posts you have, if you don't know DN personally and aren't privy to his daily life, where do you get off telling him what is good for him? Bracelet, no bracelet. Don't give complete strangers life advice.Dr. Phil doesn't help people. Dime store psychology should be done away with.If that isn't clear enough. Drink a chilled bottle of windex.

fyp

[Greg Kelley 0]

Ok, we got Ron's take on this. He seems to be on the same page as most of the people here, that offering unsolicited advice to a person with whom you have never met in person is inappropriate...period. That seems reasonable to me. Some people find unsolicited advice quite off-putting, while others are more receptive to it. How about the same question for you Jeepster? You seemed to have a different take. And I apologize for having grouped this topic into a "us vs. them" situation. I should have adressed Jeepster specifically in my response. Instead I addressed everyone, which was not my intention. Jeepster was of a different opinion, that if the advice came from a "poker professional" then it would cease to be innappropriate. Is that your take on this? And I am asking seriously, not for the sake of being confrontational. Just to rephrase the question: You contend that there is nothing wrong with what was posted, but rather who did the posting?And please guys, take it easy. There seems to be a tendency to get very nasty around here, one the reasons I was reluctant to post for so long. I'm not sure what the motivation is for some posters to relentlessly attempt to tear people apart for saying anything that they might not agree with 100%.

[badasmybreath 0]

wow tough to go down on a midget in an elevator

that made me laugh really really loudly...i think i just woke up the neighbors...

[pascalc 0]

you are waisting your time in this thread :)I chose that one as my first posting. It's perfect

[srblan 0]

I don't see why so many people are appalled by this advice... OP even prefaces it with "Nothing like taking advice from someone far less successful..." So many of you indicate that Daniel is the pro, and he should be the judge of if he's doing the right thing or not. Why not let him decide whether or not to take the advice? He's a big boy, you don't need to shield him from posts that you feel he might object to, why chastise the OP for making what appears to be a nice gesture when you know that if DN read it, he'd respond politely and explain why he is staying up at the level he is?If you are going to hero worship, fine, but don't take every bit of criticism as personal! It's not directed at you, get over it!

[elaear 0]

here's some more whole-hearted quality advice for danny:Put the big push on when it comes to career and making money. You should have an opportunity to meet someone you can partner with. Don't fool yourself into forgetting people will want something in return.courtesy of horoscope.com.

[jack24bauer24 0]

I'm a Canadian that looks up to Daniel but my advice is solid. I'm a little older than Daniel and I've been at this poker game a few more years than him. Do you see a flaw in the advice or do you just like to insult people?

Well if you are Canadian that changes everything.....

[AgroPoker 0]

It doesn't seem like bad advice. On the flip side, DN has never seemed like the kind of degenerate gambler that's going to wind up in the gutter one day, looking for a stake, so he can probably figure out for himself when to change gears.

Maybe it isn’t bad advise if you are giving it to someone you know personally, and you know they need it but, this guy needs to do a self check if he thinks he should be giving anyone that he doesn’t know any advise. That is just so pompous.