nachunja 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I always play .50/1 or 1/2 LHEim a super loose super aggressive .50/1.at that level it gives me some huge profit and some huge losses.lately i've been down or broke even most of the time.and at that level profit is unsatisifying to me. good in terms of BB but in dollar terms, its not.I know that such a jump is 'dumb' and 'not right' and i understand that,considering that i only have a bankroll of 100 buck, it does not help.so hour ago, i've bought in for $100 at the 5/10 10ppl game.since i only have 10 BB.... i played extremely tight and extremely careful.ex) not re-raising with AK when K hits on the flop. folding top pair when the turn brings a flush card or any scare card. not playing Ax suited (when x is greater than 7).and so far i've won 15 BB in one hour. all the pots i've won, went to the showdown, and of course i had the better hand.unfortuantely multi-tasking while playing poker have cost me lose 6 BB but whatever.maybe this is because i'm on a possible 'semi-hot streak' at the moment.i like the 5/10 games much better because the raises are more respected than .5/1. (and bonuses are cleared much faster )of course i cant be sure of this for playing one hour at the level.so with the bankroll of $258 after that session, should i go back to the .50/1, 1/2 being aggressive or just stay at 5/10 playing tight careful poker.i would appreciate your opnion from your past experience and some textbook answers also. Link to post Share on other sites
radar37 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Not going to flame you. You'll get plenty of that Take the money and run back down to lower limits. You will go broke in no time at 5 10 with that bankroll no matter how you play. Count your blessings and run and I'd suggest buying small stakes hold'em with a part of your winnings. good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 since i only have 10 BB.... i played extremely tight and extremely careful. ex) not re-raising with AK when K hits on the flop. folding top pair when the turn brings a flush card or any scare card. not playing Ax suited (when x is greater than 7). Im sure you're crushing those fish.A real answer?Given what you've said about your 'strategy', you're probably worse than the vast majority of people at 5/10. But even if you were better than every single person at those tables, you would still probably lose all of your money given the size of your bankroll. Put those two things together, and there is no chance in hell that you won't lose all of your money if you continue to play.Or in terms of risk of ruin, the probability of this is 99.9% that you'll lose it all within the next several thousand hands. Ok, that's a bit of an overstatement. It's closer to 95%. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 ROFL.this made my day!aseem Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 If you think you're happy now, just wait 'till you see "nachunja" sit down at your 5/10 table with precisely $79.21. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 seriously not a flame, but, what site DO you play at??aseem Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 so with the bankroll of $258 after that session, should i go back to the .50/1, 1/2 being aggressive or just stay at 5/10 playing tight careful poker.You've got 8 big bets for $15/$30.Double or nothing, baby! Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Correct me if im wrong, but isn't the buy in a minimum of 5 big bets? Go big or go home. 25/50 is calling you. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Correct me if im wrong, but isn't the buy in a minimum of 5 big bets? Go big or go home. 25/50 is calling you.i strongly agree. if your online site doesn't have 25/50, reluctantly play 20/40 until you hit $300 so that you can play 30/60.what site again? seriously.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 ROFL.this made my day!aseemI couldn't even finish.I'll try a second time.Will I be dumber for doing so?I hope i find a joke here somewhere.If not..so far the best part is the implication that $100 is enough with which to play .5/1 Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 turn pro/make millions Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 I couldn't even finish.I'll try a second time.Will I be dumber for doing so?yep. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 im a super loose super aggressive .50/1. at that level it gives me some huge profit and some huge losses. lately i've been down or broke even most of the time. and at that level profit is unsatisifying to me.No kidding. Losing money can be _quite_ an unsatisfying profit margin. I like the use of language; that winning money is regarded as profit. It suggests that the amounts won can be attributed to hard work, or mastery of the game. It makes you sound pro.I was a bit disappointed that you don't call your losses "costs". It would have sounded even more pro. Dare i say, expert. Link to post Share on other sites
nachunja 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 I play at InterPoker and I hate it there!!!!!im just trying to clear my bonus and move to party, paradise, or stars.so far after that 1 hour session at 5/10 i played 1/2 and won 30 BB which was soon lost. and how do you guys afford to follow the 300 BB rule. it really is impossible. im serious. 300 needed to play .50/1 ??? and plus i dont understand how lots of money in your account or not very much money in you account influence the result of your poker game.as long as you have about at least 75 BB in you account and buy in for 25 BB you shuold be fine!how am I or anybody else with limited money in the actual bank suppose to see any good money with 300 BB rule. Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 You aren't supposed to.You can't get rich quick off of poker.You certainly can't get rich quick playing in games where you're both outmatched and out of your bankroll.If you're genuinely winning at the lower stakes, it shouldnt take long to double a 300BB bankroll. Somewhere between 10 and 20k hands usually. 4 Tabling on a casual basis, I've managed this in the past two weeks at .50/1. Link to post Share on other sites
nachunja 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 oh yea.. multi tabling...i usually just play one tableill try multi tabling too! Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Correct me if im wrong, but isn't the buy in a minimum of 5 big bets? Go big or go home. 25/50 is calling you.i strongly agree. if your online site doesn't have 25/50, reluctantly play 20/40 until you hit $300 so that you can play 30/60.what site again? seriously.aseemwe should at least give this guy good advice and give him a chance to do the right thing. if he comes back in a week and still wants to play 5/10, i think flames or sarcastic requests to play with him are fine. but right now he just doesn't now and i think this stuff is jackassery.to the original poster - yes, you should play .5/1. if the money doesn't mean anything to you, that's even better. play well, play properly and you will win money and be able to move up limits without overly risking your bankroll.it is almost a mathematical certainty that if you continue to play 5/10 you will go broke with that bankroll, even if you played amazingly. even at 1/2, it is likely you will go broke. variance is a bitch.daniel Link to post Share on other sites
Abbaddabba 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 if he comes back in a week and still wants to play 5/10, i think flames or sarcastic requests to play with him are fine. but right now he just doesn't now and i think this stuff is jackassery.To be fair, i dont think that any of them were being sarcastic. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 To the OP.Trust me, you will lose your ass playing 5/10 with that bankroll, it doesn't matter how good you are, it is nearly a mathematical certainty.Case in point, I have a pretty small bankroll for live play, but I decided to take a shot at a very juicy 5/10 game at my local B&M. I played pretty well (I made a few mistakes here and there, but that's to be expected in any session), but the cards didn't fall my way and I lost a little over $200 in about 6 hours. I could very easily have lost more if I'd played badly, gone on tilt or bought in for more and taken more beats. Stay within bankroll guidelines, they will keep you from going broke. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 if he comes back in a week and still wants to play 5/10, i think flames or sarcastic requests to play with him are fine. but right now he just doesn't now and i think this stuff is jackassery.To be fair, i dont think that any of them were being sarcastic.to be fair, Actuary was being sarcastic. He's an asshole. Link to post Share on other sites
kouta43 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 I always play .50/1 or 1/2 LHEim a super loose super aggressive .50/1.at that level it gives me some huge profit and some huge losses.lately i've been down or broke even most of the time.and at that level profit is unsatisifying to me. good in terms of BB but in dollar terms, its not.I know that such a jump is 'dumb' and 'not right' and i understand that,considering that i only have a bankroll of 100 buck, it does not help.so hour ago, i've bought in for $100 at the 5/10 10ppl game.since i only have 10 BB.... i played extremely tight and extremely careful.ex) not re-raising with AK when K hits on the flop. folding top pair when the turn brings a flush card or any scare card. not playing Ax suited (when x is greater than 7).and so far i've won 15 BB in one hour. all the pots i've won, went to the showdown, and of course i had the better hand.unfortuantely multi-tasking while playing poker have cost me lose 6 BB but whatever.maybe this is because i'm on a possible 'semi-hot streak' at the moment.i like the 5/10 games much better because the raises are more respected than .5/1. (and bonuses are cleared much faster )of course i cant be sure of this for playing one hour at the level.so with the bankroll of $258 after that session, should i go back to the .50/1, 1/2 being aggressive or just stay at 5/10 playing tight careful poker.i would appreciate your opnion from your past experience and some textbook answers also.thankfully you dont realise how dumb you are for even posting this, otherwise some semi trailer may have your face on it. Link to post Share on other sites
Forrest Crunk 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 I play at InterPoker and I hate it there!!!!!im just trying to clear my bonus and move to party, paradise, or stars.so far after that 1 hour session at 5/10 i played 1/2 and won 30 BB which was soon lost. and how do you guys afford to follow the 300 BB rule. it really is impossible. im serious. 300 needed to play .50/1 ??? and plus i dont understand how lots of money in your account or not very much money in you account influence the result of your poker game.as long as you have about at least 75 BB in you account and buy in for 25 BB you shuold be fine!how am I or anybody else with limited money in the actual bank suppose to see any good money with 300 BB rule.it's impossible for you because you are a degenerate with absolutely no self-control, nor the willingness to learn and use the time-honored methods of bankroll management that will prevent you from going broke. in your head, you believe you are somehow better than those who do, and that you are not entitled to put in the long hours of grinding and learning the correct way to play poker that the rest of us who enjoy "real profits" do. you are similar to some dude on a playground who makes a half-court shot and believes he should just be able to jump straight to the NBA, because at your core you are egotistical and lazy - your ego prevents you from sitting at .50/1 because your raises do not command respect, and respect is something you need to validate yourself, you crave it and feel as if it is something you "deserve". refusing to curb these self-destructive tendencies will cause poker to become a source of anguish in your life, as you will continue on the same pattern and end up spewing away not only your poker bankroll, but you will start dipping into personal funds to chase your losses, leading to ultimate failure. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 i played extremely tight and extremely careful.ex) not re-raising with AK when K hits on the flop. folding top pair when the turn brings a flush card or any scare card. not playing Ax suited (when x is greater than 7).This is almost worse than going from .5/1 to 5/10 with no bankroll. Link to post Share on other sites
nachunja 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 it's impossible for you because you are a degenerate with absolutely no self-control, nor the willingness to learn and use the time-honored methods of bankroll management that will prevent you from going broke. in your head, you believe you are somehow better than those who do, and that you are not entitled to put in the long hours of grinding and learning the correct way to play poker that the rest of us who enjoy "real profits" do. you are similar to some dude on a playground who makes a half-court shot and believes he should just be able to jump straight to the NBA, because at your core you are egotistical and lazy - your ego prevents you from sitting at .50/1 because your raises do not command respect, and respect is something you need to validate yourself, you crave it and feel as if it is something you "deserve". refusing to curb these self-destructive tendencies will cause poker to become a source of anguish in your life, as you will continue on the same pattern and end up spewing away not only your poker bankroll, but you will start dipping into personal funds to chase your losses, leading to ultimate failure.wow you have a pretty good idea how i feel.yes, now that i look at it i am a bit egotistical, and definately lazy.my game is probably not even half good as you guys. that is why i post my idiotic mistakes so get some help.and your flame was very thoughtful. not being sarcastic. thanks Link to post Share on other sites
radar37 0 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 I think its great that your actually listening to the flaming and not getting defensive or fighting back. There might be hope for you yet. Now take our advice and drop back down, oh yeah and read small stakes hold'em. gl Link to post Share on other sites
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