WilliamShatner 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Author Share Posted October 27, 2005 You have to expect many flames when you proclaim a site is "definately rigged." And then post one hand to prove it.I get frustrated at some of the crazy hands I see online. We all do. But instead of blaming the site... I take a look at the hand, and see if there was anything I should have done differently. Maybe that's what you could do here.A home game hand that was memorable:We were playing tourney style....three people left.the board has 4 hearts.One player had the K high flushI had A Q Third player had 10 9 and ended up with a straight flush.Crazy, but certainly not rigged.Player one was a relative....he ended up folding on the river. Third player was my Dad...who check raised me...lol.We were playing at a family reunion.God, I love the family I was born into.Your home game was ultimate riggedThis mentally retarded moron thanks you for quoting him! Link to post Share on other sites
WilliamShatner 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Author Share Posted October 27, 2005 OP doesn't seem to play much poker, and at least go as far as the other "this site is rigged" guys and mention more than one hand as an example.Yes, because multiple examples would surely convince the brainwashed masses. Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcCatcher 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 This guy has not said one thing we have not read a 1000 times. Btw, I had exact same scenario at Binions last month in a tourney. I had AA, girl to my left had A8, Flop comes down A82, so it happens live too. At least Tritz tried to make his lies original by using manufactured evidence. Link to post Share on other sites
nosoul 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 The waiting lists are because people don't want to sit down at an empty table. When you join the list, it asks how many players need to be at the table for you to sit down. It won't offer you a seat unless there are enough people already on the table.They don't use the cards to speed up the tournaments. They use the blinds. That's why the blinds go up every now and then. So the tournament gets over with eventually. Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Even if someone was sitting at a computer watching everyone's cards and deciding what the flop would be, which is impossible, then wouldnt it be completely random who that guy chooses to be the winner. Then you should have the same chance to get aces as him. Link to post Share on other sites
KingAustin 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 You're right. Ultimate Poker is rigged. Now go back to your shity travel agency commercials. Link to post Share on other sites
WilliamShatner 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Author Share Posted October 27, 2005 yeah im sure ultimate bet would totally discredit their site for some 5$ sng.........That would be funny if your ignorance was not so alarming. It happens so they can start another game. It's how they speed up games to collect more fees. They are not making money when you are playing. They are making money when you sign up. Link to post Share on other sites
WilliamShatner 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Author Share Posted October 27, 2005 You're absolutely right!!! I'll bet it cost a fortune for them to build so many tables to play on... they HAVE to get the players off of a table for others to sit down....You don't think it cost money to add more tables?of course... the number of hurricanes this year has increased the cost of plywood,screws, glue, and other materials used to build the tables you play at online...We don't want to hear about your job at Home Depot here.hey... I'm the only one around here that's agreeing with you. Now, If you'll excuse me, I have to go smear some more feces on this padded wall...If I throw a stick will you chase it? Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 yeah im sure ultimate bet would totally discredit their site for some 5$ sng.........That would be funny if your ignorance was not so alarming. It happens so they can start another game. It's how they speed up games to collect more fees. They are not making money when you are playing. They are making money when you sign up.Then don't play poker, you have no reason to sit there and bi tch about something that none of us care about. Just quit poker, you'll be happier. Link to post Share on other sites
WilliamShatner 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Author Share Posted October 27, 2005 Yo moron, guess what. You're not allowed to flame anyone flaming you on this thread because you have to be mentally retarded for to believe this is true. good post.[/b]What does that say about the flamers that I, a supposed mentally retarded moron, am able to flame them back?You are flaming a veteran of this forum as a fan of Star Trek. How much weight do you think your flames are worth? It's sad, actually. But keep up the good work.Oooh a veteran on an internet forum. Your parents must be proud. I hope you list this accomplishment on your resume. Link to post Share on other sites
GodOfEntropy 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 If the SnG's were really rigged to get them over as quickly as possible, the blind structure would not be so slow. A site rigged as such would have a structure resembling that at party where the blinds go up every 10 hands Link to post Share on other sites
WilliamShatner 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Author Share Posted October 27, 2005 I know I'll get a bunch of people disagreeing with me but Ultimate Bet is definitely rigged. The cards are coordinated to create action and end sit n go's quicker so another one can start.I was in a $5 S&G and it was down to 5 players with the blinds at 50/100. I had the 2nd biggest stack and was dealt A:spade: 8:spade: on the button. It was folded to me and I raised 300. The SB who had the biggest stack called and the BB folded. The flop came A:heart: 8:diamond: 6:club:. I bet 500 and the SB called. The turn was J:diamond:. I bet 700 and the SB called. The river was 5:club: and I pushed all in. The SB called and turned over A:diamond: A:club:. That is so totally rigged for action it's ridiculous. All four aces out at such an opportune time when the two biggest stacks are going at it. I know a lot of you guys don't want to admit it, but the poker sites have a motive for rigging it like that. The game will end quicker and other games can start. And don't give me that crap about it not being worth the risk because there is no risk. They'll never get caught because they have so many convinced that it wouldn't be worth the risk.So let's here the flaming and all the Star Trek jokes. Would you be as censored if he had trip jacks? Or A-J? That happens all the time. On the other hand, I have not played on UB for weeks- I decided that if I wanted to beat my head against the wall than I would just do that, and skip the losing money part.If he had had trip jacks then he would have just been another donkey that likes to chase. The cards came out like they did to generate action between the two big stacks. You neglected the possibility of A-J. Seriously, this happens all the time. Here is some advice- stop letting your account get down to 5 bucks.Who said my account was down to $5? That's incredibly presumptuous of you. Are you a Christian by chance? Yes, and psychic to boot. I could have told you to fold. Possible hands that beat you: Set of aces, set of 8's, set of 6's, set of jacks, A-J, set of 5's- your A-8 is not that strong buddy I eat A-8 for breakfast.I know...two pair on the flop is horrible. I should have folded right there and then and waited for my straight flush hand.Amen Link to post Share on other sites
scottyno 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 so Im playing a sit n go and get AJ, I raise to 3x the BB, it gets reriased, and I call.flop comes AAQ and we end up getting it all in, and he has AQmust be rigged right? Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 To the OP...You are right online poker is rigged. Dont listen to the rest of these morons telling you its not. They are mindless sheep that believe anything. They are the same people that believe Oswald acted alone, that there were no alien landings at Roswell, and that we actually put a man on the Moon. Its up to people like you and me to run this country.Now I'm not saying there's a connection between the Kennedy assassination, aliens, and online poker. That's juts crazy. Or is it?????? Link to post Share on other sites
beans-n-icewater 18 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 You're absolutely right!!! I'll bet it cost a fortune for them to build so many tables to play on... they HAVE to get the players off of a table for others to sit down....You don't think it cost money to add more tables?of course... the number of hurricanes this year has increased the cost of plywood,screws, glue, and other materials used to build the tables you play at online...We don't want to hear about your job at Home Depot here.hey... I'm the only one around here that's agreeing with you. Now, If you'll excuse me, I have to go smear some more feces on this padded wall...I just made a purdy picture of Spock fer ya William.... AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!! WAIT!!! NO!!!!!NOT MORE PILLS!!!!NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!(Strap him down dammittt!)I DIDNT KILL THE BUNNY!!!!!!!!!!I DIDNT KILL MY PARENTS!!!!I THINK ANNIE DUKE IS BEAUTIFUL!!!(He IS crazy Dr. Matasow) Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcCatcher 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Waiting list for S&Gs? 1 fills up another starts that simple.No it doesn't. I have been on a waiting list on UB for over an hour.Thought it was rigged to get the games going faster? Guess they need to hire new riggers. Link to post Share on other sites
WilliamShatner 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Author Share Posted October 27, 2005 Yes, you have convinced me. There is no criminal activity taking place within the walls of big business in North America. Every criminal activity has been exposed. And all that work. Who goes through so much work to make billions? Do you keep a copy of the Warren report under your pillow?I forget. Which online poker companies are located in North America, or even in the USA? Like I said, get off tilt, spend fifteen minutes doing some research, and then reply like someone with an IQ higher than the speed limit.Thanks.Kahnawake Gaming CommissionP.O. Box 1799Old Malone HighwayKahnawake Mohawk Territory, QC J0L 1B0CANADA Link to post Share on other sites
thespoil 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Third player was my Dad...who check raised me...lol.Damn, that's cold!! Check-raised by your dad. Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Why is the blind structure so slow if they want to get it over with? Link to post Share on other sites
WilliamShatner 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Author Share Posted October 27, 2005 I eat pieces of shit like WilliamShatner for breakfastYou eat pieces of shit for breakfast?Only WilliamShatnerDo you have an original thought? Link to post Share on other sites
WilliamShatner 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Author Share Posted October 27, 2005 This guy has not said one thing we have not read a 1000 times. Btw, I had exact same scenario at Binions last month in a tourney. I had AA, girl to my left had A8, Flop comes down A82, so it happens live too. At least Tritz tried to make his lies original by using manufactured evidence.Wow, it happened to you a month ago. This clears everything up. Link to post Share on other sites
kers2 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 I eat pieces of shit like WilliamShatner for breakfastYou eat pieces of shit for breakfast?Only WilliamShatnerDo you have an original thought?You're the one saying a poker site is rigged right? Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 You know, its funny.In the OP first post, he wrote at the end, "And don't give me that crap about it not being worth the risk because there is no risk. They'll never get caught because they have so many convinced that it wouldn't be worth the risk. "This isnt much of an argument, but its along the same lines as, "its impossible to know if they do promot faster games, or have new sign ons tagged in a way so they recieve better starting hands. etc.."I mean, no one can dictate when a player will push or call, for all they know you could have folded two pair.Again, i'm on the fence of reason like i was with Tritz. This is not a casino, and not live play. It is mostly being hosted by servers offshore. Now live casino's will do everything in their power to keep you gambling. all legal we hope. Although i dont know why they kick out a card counter, but the rich Texan can stay? (SW,)Besides auditing, and being watched, is there really any actual Facts and info brought to us by government regulations about the legitimacy of these sites? Link to post Share on other sites
WilliamShatner 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Author Share Posted October 27, 2005 Even if someone was sitting at a computer watching everyone's cards and deciding what the flop would be, which is impossible, then wouldnt it be completely random who that guy chooses to be the winner. Then you should have the same chance to get aces as him.I'm not sure where the guy came from. They have these things now called computers that can do stuff really really fast and like maybe it could like know who's holding what and maybe what cards might like generate like a lot of action and such. Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 To the OP...You are right online poker is rigged. Dont listen to the rest of these morons telling you its not. They are mindless sheep that believe anything. They are the same people that believe Oswald acted alone, that there were no alien landings at Roswell, and that we actually put a man on the Moon. Its up to people like you and me to run this country.Now I'm not saying there's a connection between the Kennedy assassination, aliens, and online poker. That's juts crazy. Or is it??????Aww, man! This post reminds me of how I used to listen to Coast to Coast and laugh myself to sleep. I miss Art Bell.Sometimes when I read this board I think he may have been right about "the quickening." Link to post Share on other sites
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