superchuck 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 i turn 21 on July 29th if i win a seat online, could i negotiate a B,C, or D day one to accomodate the legalities of minors playing poker? Link to post Share on other sites
LAPoker 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Who gives a crap about the schedule I am just rooting for a few more restrooms. By the way I won another 650 $w's last night. Saving up for wsop sats. Link to post Share on other sites
Golden 2 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Did the planners not learn anything? Don't they know the pros hate the $1500 buy ins for No-Limit tournaments? Don't they know that pros actually love playing the H.O.R.S.E. and S.H.O.E. tournaments?I understand having the opening event at $1500 and having maybe a few others, but it seems like every event is at $1500.The schedule is ridiculous and I hope that change it up.The planners must have learned that the pros make up a very small majority of the field. They can make more money with a low buy-in hold 'em tournament that attracts 2000 people than some HORSE tournament that has like 200 players. Link to post Share on other sites
Golden 2 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 For those who are curious and don't feel like reading the schedule, the WSOP 2006 will have 34 variations of Hold 'em events (NL, Limit, NL 6 Handed, Pot Limit, NL w/ rebuys, Shootout) Note: The Seniors event, Ladies event, & Employee event are included.The other 10 events include:3 Omaha Hi-Lo Split2 Seven Card Stud2 Pot Limit Omaha1 Seven Card Hi/Lo Split1 Razz1 NL 2-7 Draw Lowball w/ RebuysSomething to keep in mind:In 2005 the amount of non Hold em events that had over 700 entrants:ZERO. The highest was 699.In 2005 the number of Hold em events that exceeded 700 entrants:FOURTEEN. And that includes NINE events that exceeded 1000 entrants.And you wonder why there is more Hold em? Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 For those who are curious and don't feel like reading the schedule, the WSOP 2006 will have 34 variations of Hold 'em events (NL, Limit, NL 6 Handed, Pot Limit, NL w/ rebuys, Shootout) Â Note: The Seniors event, Ladies event, & Employee event are included.The other 10 events include:3 Omaha Hi-Lo Split2 Seven Card Stud2 Pot Limit Omaha1 Seven Card Hi/Lo Split1 Razz1 NL 2-7 Draw Lowball w/ RebuysSomething to keep in mind:In 2005 the amount of non Hold em events that had over 700 entrants:ZERO. Â The highest was 699.In 2005 the number of Hold em events that exceeded 700 entrants:FOURTEEN. Â And that includes NINE events that exceeded 1000 entrants.And you wonder why there is more Hold em?We know why there are more Hold 'em tourneys, but that doesn't make it right. You know they're going to be making millions just from tournament fees, and they don't want to have a HORSE event. Harrah's, if I could flip you the bird over the internet I would. Link to post Share on other sites
HoosierAlum 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 For those who are curious and don't feel like reading the schedule, the WSOP 2006 will have 34 variations of Hold 'em events (NL, Limit, NL 6 Handed, Pot Limit, NL w/ rebuys, Shootout) Â Note: The Seniors event, Ladies event, & Employee event are included.The other 10 events include:3 Omaha Hi-Lo Split2 Seven Card Stud2 Pot Limit Omaha1 Seven Card Hi/Lo Split1 Razz1 NL 2-7 Draw Lowball w/ RebuysSomething to keep in mind:In 2005 the amount of non Hold em events that had over 700 entrants:ZERO. Â The highest was 699.In 2005 the number of Hold em events that exceeded 700 entrants:FOURTEEN. Â And that includes NINE events that exceeded 1000 entrants.And you wonder why there is more Hold em?We know why there are more Hold 'em tourneys, but that doesn't make it right. You know they're going to be making millions just from tournament fees, and they don't want to have a HORSE event. Harrah's, if I could flip you the bird over the internet I would.They would probably flip it back, but are too busy counting their money. Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhite 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 What I don't like is how there are more and more people joining these tournaments, but the top prizes aren't going up much. In 2004 and this year 3rd paid $2.5 million each. They gotta put more beef at the top. However if I were to organize a WSOP here would be mine.Razz-$10kTriple Draw-$10kNo Limit 2-7 Lowball-$10kSeven Card Stud-$10kSeven Card Stud 8 or Better- $10kPLO-$10kO8-$10kOmaha Hi-$10kNo Limit Hold'em (6 handed)-$10kLimit Hold'em-$10kPot Limit Hold'em-$10kLimit Hold'em Shootout-$10kNo Limit Hold'em Shoot out-$10kNo Limit Hold'em-$10kHorse-$10kShoe-$10kBlind Man's Bluff-$10kChampionship-No Limit Hold'em-$25I think that's enough events. Draw, A-5, and PLO8 could be added, but not enough people play those games. PLO8 is growing though. Link to post Share on other sites
waldo 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 the should change the name to world series of no limit Link to post Share on other sites
FileError404 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I don't get all the bitschin'.... it's almost the exact same thing as this year with the dates beibg different... 2005 World Series of Poker Schedule of Events Date Event # Tournament Buy-In June 2, Thursday 1 Casino Employee No-limit Hold'em $500 June 3, Friday 2 No-limit Hold'em $1,500 June 4, Saturday 3 Pot-limit Hold'em $1,500 June 5, Sunday 4 Limit Hold'em $1,500 June 6, Monday 5 Omaha Hi-low Split $1,500 June 7, Tuesday 6 Short Handed (6/table) No-limit Hold'em $2,500 June 8, Wednesday 7 No-limit Hold'em w/rebuys $1,000 June 9, Thursday 8 Seven Card Stud $1,500 June 10, Friday 9 No-limit Hold'em $2,000 June 11, Saturday 10 Limit Hold'em $2,000 June 12, Sunday 11 Pot-limit Hold'em $2,000 June 13, Monday 12 Pot-limit Omaha w/re-buys $2,000 June 14, Tuesday 13 No-limit Hold'em $5,000 June 15, Wednesday 14 Seven Card Stud Hi-low Split $1,000 June 16, Thursday 15 Limit Hold'em Shootout $1,500 June 17, Friday 16 No-limit Hold'em Shootout $1,500 June 18, Saturday 17 Limit Hold'em $2,500 June 19, Sunday 18 Seven Card Stud Hi-low Split $2,000 June 19, Sunday 19 Pot Limit Omaha $1,500 June 20, Monday 20 Pot-limit Hold'em $5,000 June 21, Tuesday 21 Omaha Hi-low Split $2,500 June 22, Wednesday 22 No-limit Hold'em $1,500 June 23, Thursday 23 Seven Card Stud $5,000 June 24, Friday 24 No-Limit Hold'em $2,500 June 25, Saturday 25 Pot-limit Hold'em $2,500 June 26, Sunday 26 Ladies No-limit Hold'em $1,000 June 26, Sunday 27 Pot-limit Omaha w/re-buys $5,000 June 27, Monday 28 Limit Hold'em $5,000 June 28, Tuesday 29 No-limit Hold'em $2,000 June 29, Wednesday 30 Seven Card Razz $1,500 June 29, Wednesday 31 Short handed (6/table) No-limit Hold'em $5,000 June 30, Thursday 32 Omaha hi-low split $5,000 July 1, Friday 33 No-limit Hold'em $3,000 July 2, Saturday 34 Seniors No-Limit Hold'em $1,000 July 2, Saturday 35 Pot-limit Omaha $10,000 July 3, Sunday 36 Limit Hold'em $3,000 July 4, Monday 37 No-limit Hold'em w/re-buys $1,000 July 5, Tuesday 38 Super satellite day (10a.m./3p.m./8p.m.) $1,000 July 5, Tuesday 39 No-limit 2 to 7 Draw Lowball w/re-buys $5,000 July 6, Wednesday 40 Super satellite day (9a.m./2p.m./9p.m.) July 6, Wednesday 41 Media/Celebrity Charity Event No Limit Texas Hold'em World Championship: Date Event # Tournament Buy-In July 7, Thursday 42 Day 1A, First 1,000 - 2,200 play to 500-650 $10,000 July 8, Friday Day 1B, Second 1,000 - 2,200 play to 500-650 July 9, Saturday Day 1C, Third 1,000 - 2,200 play to 500-650 July 10, Sunday Day 2, Play down to 500-1,000 July 11, Monday Day 3, Play down to 200-400 July 11, Monday 43 No-limit Hold'em 1-day event $1,500 July 12, Tuesday Day 4, Play down to 100-150 July 12, Tuesday 44 No-limit Hold'em 1-day event $1,000 July 13, Wednesday Day 5, Play down to 27 July 13, Wednesday 45 No-limit Hold'em 1-day event $1,000 July 14, Thursday Day 6, Play down to 9 (Binion's Horseshoe) July 15, Friday Day 7, Final table (Binion's Horseshoe) Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhite 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Only 34 events out of 44 are hold'em events and there's only one stud/8 event this year versuses the 2 from last year. That's something to whine about. Link to post Share on other sites
Golden 2 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 What I don't like is how there are more and more people joining these tournaments, but the top prizes aren't going up much. In 2004 and this year 3rd paid $2.5 million each. They gotta put more beef at the top. However if I were to organize a WSOP here would be mine.Razz-$10kTriple Draw-$10kNo Limit 2-7-$10kLowball-$10kSeven Card Stud-$10kSeven Card Stud 8 or Better- $10kPLO-$10kO8-$10kOmaha Hi-$10kNo Limit Hold'em (6 handed)-$10kLimit Hold'em-$10kPot Limit Hold'em-$10kLimit Hold'em Shootout-$10kNo Limit Hold'em Shoot out-$10kNo Limit Hold'em-$10kHorse-$10kShoe-$10kBlind Man's Bluff-$10kChampionship-No Limit Hold'em-$25I think that's enough events. Draw, A-5, and PLO8 could be added, but not enough people play those games. PLO8 is growing though.I was hoping for an "sw" because that would be an awful tournament. Entries would be extremely low and no money would be made.That's the point: We don't get a WSOP unless there is money to be made. Enjoy the event they obviously work very hard to organize. Link to post Share on other sites
FileError404 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Razz-$10kTriple Draw-$10kNo Limit 2-7-$10kLowball-$10kSeven Card Stud-$10kSeven Card Stud 8 or Better- $10kPLO-$10kO8-$10kOmaha Hi-$10kNo Limit Hold'em (6 handed)-$10kLimit Hold'em-$10kPot Limit Hold'em-$10kLimit Hold'em Shootout-$10kNo Limit Hold'em Shoot out-$10kNo Limit Hold'em-$10kHorse-$10kShoe-$10kBlind Man's Bluff-$10kNo Limit 2-7 IS Lowball... Link to post Share on other sites
elkang 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 It's clear that Harrah's primary goal is to make money off the WSOP and to do so at the detriment of the tournament's reputation.I hope that some other group puts together a prestigious SHOE and HORSE tourney while the WSOP is going on. I would cover that in an instant. Link to post Share on other sites
rbakken2504 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Thry should just lengthen all the events to 3 days, start with more chips, i think then you'll see less final tables flooded with amateurs who just are no fun to watch play poker. Main Event should stay the same for tradition purposes, but if Harrah's isn't careful, someone will wake up host their own World Championship with all the considerations of the pro's taken into effect, and take all the pro's. without the pro's ESPN's coverahe will die, and so will the WSOP. But until then the WSOP is still the premier event to attend and play in. Link to post Share on other sites
PrtyPSux 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I have a plan that will make me rich. ........ Side games. July. Vegas. Link to post Share on other sites
rbakken2504 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I have a plan that will make me rich. ........ Side games. July. Vegas.A very valid an excellent point, the pro's will never leave the WSOP because of the abundance of rich fish playing side games. Link to post Share on other sites
Golden 2 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Thry should just lengthen all the events to 3 days, start with more chips, i think then you'll see less final tables flooded with amateurs who just are no fun to watch play poker. Main Event should stay the same for tradition purposes, but if Harrah's isn't careful, someone will wake up host their own World Championship with all the considerations of the pro's taken into effect, and take all the pro's. without the pro's ESPN's coverahe will die, and so will the WSOP. But until then the WSOP is still the premier event to attend and play in.ESPN can make anyone into a story. So even if the pros left, and they won't, it would still be +ev TV Link to post Share on other sites
rbakken2504 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Thry should just lengthen all the events to 3 days, start with more chips, i think then you'll see less final tables flooded with amateurs who just are no fun to watch play poker. Main Event should stay the same for tradition purposes, but if Harrah's isn't careful, someone will wake up host their own World Championship with all the considerations of the pro's taken into effect, and take all the pro's. without the pro's ESPN's coverahe will die, and so will the WSOP. But until then the WSOP is still the premier event to attend and play in.ESPN can make anyone into a story. So even if the pros left, and they won't, it would still be +ev TVNobody will watch a bunch of amateurs play poker, that equals low ratings, which equals ESPN losing money, which equals -EV Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Nobody will watch a bunch of amateurs play poker, that equals low ratings, which equals ESPN losing money, which equals -EVYour wrong about that. Trust me, no one cares.It marketing is very close to a reality show. The network gives the people personality, and viewers enjoy watching someone they like win a Million dallors or someone they hate lose to a bad beat. Its that simple. Link to post Share on other sites
rbakken2504 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Right....cause the Ultimatebet.net challenge was a huge success. Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Nobody will watch a bunch of amateurs play poker, that equals low ratings, which equals ESPN losing money, which equals -EVYour wrong about that. Trust me, no one cares.It marketing is very close to a reality show. The network gives the people personality, and viewers enjoy watching someone they like win a Million dallors or someone they hate lose to a bad beat. Its that simple.I would much rather watch a pro play ahead of an amateur. If I know that a bunch of nobody's are going to be at the televised table, it's unlikely that I'll watch. I never watched the UltimateBet.com tournament, but I haven't missed a Poker Superstars yet. Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Right....cause the Ultimatebet.net challenge was a huge success.Poor marketing. ESPN markets and presents the game better than anyone.Same thing with reality shows. Some work and some dont. Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I would much rather watch a pro play ahead of an amateur.You're not targeted the audience. Once they target the pure poker player demographic, the ratings plummet and the show goes off the air. Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 I would much rather watch a pro play ahead of an amateur.You're not targeted the audience. Once they target the pure poker player demographic, the ratings plummet and the show goes off the air.So POKER players are not the target demographic for a POKER show. Who is the targeted audience? Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 So POKER players are not the target demographic for a POKER show. Who is the targeted audience?Well to some extent poker players are part of it. But I think the majority of the audience they are seeking is the game/reality show audience. Link to post Share on other sites
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