party poker sng's

[NevadaRick 0]

I have been extremely frustrated lately in playin the $10/$20 sng's lately on party poker. It seems that when ever a few players at the table becomes the chip leaders their minds take a vacation. I mean I have seen this numerous times lately and I don't know what to make of it. Maybe someone can explain to me why the chip leaders in the late rounds of sng's call the short stacks all-ins with the shittiest cards imaginable. I mean c'mon don't the chip leaders realize that the reason why the short stack is going all in is because they finally have a hand to go all in with???? It is because of this that I have not placed in the top 3 on numerous sng's on party and it is extremely frustrating when the chip leaders give the short stacks basically enough chips to have fold equity!!!! Maybe it is just me bitching or does this also happen at the higher limit sng's like $50 and up?? Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!!!!

[dead money 1]

It is because of this that I have not placed in the top 3 on numerous sng's on party and it is extremely frustrating when the chip leaders give the short stacks basically enough chips to have fold equity!!!!

I think that your poor play is the reason you dont finish in the money. Or maybe you are the unluckiest person alive. Either way, sucks to be you.

[zimmer4141 0]

Probably just a bad swing, but don't wait around for the small stacks to go out. If you get hands that are worth pushing with, you have to push them. Go for first everytime, and in the long run this will weild better profits.

[Feltster 0]

Firstly, party poker is full of donks. If you play the $11 sngs you're bound to be playing with at least 5 donks.These donks with a big stack tend to turn into calling stations. Plus they love the thought of being able to take out another short stack, so they call with any 2 cards.But hey, what can you do? You only have control over your own actions after all...I personally feel that party poker has a very bad sng structure. The starting chips are far too low, and the blind structure is far too aggressive, especially when short handed and you can get through 10 hands in 3 mins and the blinds go up again.I think this turns party poker sngs into more of a crap shoot compared to somewhere like stars, where the sng structure favours the good players more.But thats just me.I think it is very hard to achieve consistent returns on the party poker low buy-in sngs. You're gonna need a lot of luck and a very thick skin!!Good Luck!!

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

I have been extremely frustrated lately in playin the $10/$20 sng's lately on party poker.  It seems that when ever a few players at the table becomes the chip leaders their minds take a vacation.  I mean I have seen this numerous times lately and I don't know what to make of it.  Maybe someone can explain to me why the chip leaders in the late rounds of sng's call the short stacks all-ins with the censored cards imaginable.  I mean c'mon don't the chip leaders realize that the reason why the short stack is going all in is because they finally have a hand to go all in with????  It is because of this that I have not placed in the top 3 on numerous sng's on party and it is extremely frustrating when the chip leaders give the short stacks basically enough chips to have fold equity!!!!  Maybe it is just me censored or does this also happen at the higher limit sng's like $50 and up??  Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!!!!

This is such an unbelieveable post, that I almost can't believe it's sincere.First of all, you start with 800 chips at party, so even if you're a world class player, they are a luck fest. When you start with so few chips, you realy don't have the luxary to wait around for awesome cards. You have to play fast, loose and agressive.Second of all, the small stacks aren't ALWAYs pushing in because they finally found a hand. Often, they are despirate, and will pick any ace high, king high, any connector, or suited hand to push with, as they should, because otherwise they'll be anted out. And truthfully, the large stacks are RIGHT often to call. most hands aren't THAT big of underdog to other hands, and there's no reason to think a small stack in disperation mode has one of the few hands that kills other hands, AA or KKI suggest NOT playing in PP SnG's period, exept for the occasional fun. If you want to play SnG's, whcih I don't recomend at all, try pokerstars or Full tilt or UB.But party poker's -50 Sng's are the worst format online. You simply can't play tight in them in any way, there's a good chance you'll get blinded out waiting for you AA's

[the_stein 0]

I have been extremely frustrated lately in playin the $10/$20 sng's lately on party poker.  It seems that when ever a few players at the table becomes the chip leaders their minds take a vacation.  I mean I have seen this numerous times lately and I don't know what to make of it.  Maybe someone can explain to me why the chip leaders in the late rounds of sng's call the short stacks all-ins with the censored cards imaginable.  I mean c'mon don't the chip leaders realize that the reason why the short stack is going all in is because they finally have a hand to go all in with????  It is because of this that I have not placed in the top 3 on numerous sng's on party and it is extremely frustrating when the chip leaders give the short stacks basically enough chips to have fold equity!!!!  Maybe it is just me censored or does this also happen at the higher limit sng's like $50 and up??  Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!!!!

This is such an unbelieveable post, that I almost can't believe it's sincere.First of all, you start with 800 chips at party, so even if you're a world class player, they are a luck fest. When you start with so few chips, you realy don't have the luxary to wait around for awesome cards. You have to play fast, loose and agressive.Second of all, the small stacks aren't ALWAYs pushing in because they finally found a hand. Often, they are despirate, and will pick any ace high, king high, any connector, or suited hand to push with, as they should, because otherwise they'll be anted out. And truthfully, the large stacks are RIGHT often to call. most hands aren't THAT big of underdog to other hands, and there's no reason to think a small stack in disperation mode has one of the few hands that kills other hands, AA or KKI suggest NOT playing in PP SnG's period, exept for the occasional fun. If you want to play SnG's, whcih I don't recomend at all, try pokerstars or Full tilt or UB.But party poker's -50 Sng's are the worst format online. You simply can't play tight in them in any way, there's a good chance you'll get blinded out waiting for you AA's

amen/thread

[Simpleton 0]

I play only at PP and the sng's 30 and up are easy to place itm. Patience and aggressiveness when mixed properly, will get you good results. I can hardly believe the way people overplay garbage and feel 3 cards to a flush is a good draw. 20 and lower, there are just to many suck outs ad freaking idiots that should be paying checkers, not poker.

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

I play only at PP and the sng's 30 and up are easy to place itm.   Patience and aggressiveness when mixed properly, will get you good results.  I can hardly believe the way people overplay garbage and feel 3 cards to a flush is a good draw. 20 and lower, there are just to many suck outs ad freaking idiots that should be paying checkers, not poker.

This is poker's fundimental fool's folly. The lower limits have too many suck outs to beat. that doesn't make any sense at all

[spanaway_vin 0]

I have been extremely frustrated lately in playin the $10/$20 sng's lately on party poker.  It seems that when ever a few players at the table becomes the chip leaders their minds take a vacation.  I mean I have seen this numerous times lately and I don't know what to make of it.  Maybe someone can explain to me why the chip leaders in the late rounds of sng's call the short stacks all-ins with the censored cards imaginable.  I mean c'mon don't the chip leaders realize that the reason why the short stack is going all in is because they finally have a hand to go all in with????  It is because of this that I have not placed in the top 3 on numerous sng's on party and it is extremely frustrating when the chip leaders give the short stacks basically enough chips to have fold equity!!!!  Maybe it is just me censored or does this also happen at the higher limit sng's like $50 and up??  Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!!!!

First of all, I completely disagree that Party SNGs are not profitable or worthwhile. They totally are, but that's slightly off topic.I think that often big stacks calling short stacks with junk is the correct move. If the big stack only needs to risk about 10% of his chips and can potentially knock out another player (or two), then that's great. Often he or she might have junk, like 63o or something, BUT with two live cards he or she can still be only almost a 3 to 2 underdog. 63o versus AKo has a 35% chance to win heads up. I'd say that is totally worth the risk, especially when it won't really put a dent in your stack. Unless the big stack plays poorly and risks large portions of his stack consistently, he is almost already guaranteed to money. Why should he worry about you?

[Pudge714 0]

Anyone who says that Party sngs are the worst format online is an idiot. If you can learn how to play them properly the are by far the most profitbale. They take much less time than the other sng's on other sites so you can make more money per hour. Secondly they are much less read dependent because most of your decisons should be push or fold therefore they are much easier to 4+ table. The only reason why you think they are bad to play is because you don't understand how to play them so you can't be as profitable. Learn how to play the party ones well and you can make much more money.

[Simpleton 0]

Anyone who says that Party sngs are the worst format online is an idiot. If you can learn how to play them properly the are by far the most profitbale. They take much less time than the other sng's on other sites so you can make more money per hour. Secondly they are much less read dependent because most of your decisons should be push or fold therefore they are much easier to 4+ table. The only reason why you think they are bad to play is because you don't understand how to play them so you can't be as profitable. Learn how to play the party ones well and you can make much more money.Agreed

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

Anyone who says that Party sngs are the worst format online is an idiot.  If you can learn how to play them properly the are by far the most profitbale. They take much less time than the other sng's on other sites so you can make more money per hour.  Secondly they are much less read dependent because most of your decisons should be push or fold therefore they are much easier to 4+ table. The only reason why you think they are bad to play is because you don't understand how to play them so you can't be as profitable. Learn how to play the party ones well and you can make much more money.

I'm not saying they are not profitable. I am saying playing in the cash games during the same time is MORE proffiable. And for my money, paradise's SnG's are the best. I understand how aggressive you have to play the SnG's. That's what make's them so luck dependant. You have an edge over players who don't know how luck dependant it is, and play too tight. But overall, a good player will make MUCH more money playing cash games

[elaear 0]

But overall, a good player will make MUCH more money playing cash games

why does everyone always say this? do you have anything to back this? just curious.

[No_Neck 0]

i get bored easy, mix it up. Some days I will play SNG's some days I will play MTT sometimes it is cash. Makes the game a lot more fun.

[jonnyutah 0]

i get bored easy, mix it up. Some days I will play SNG's some days I will play MTT sometimes it is cash.  Makes the game a lot more fun.

I agree that mixing it up will help keep it fun and fresh. More importantly, it will help to sharpen your game. I watched DN play a SnG on party last week in preparation for the WPT event.However, if you like $$$$, :wink: the cash games on party seem to be the most profitable .

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

i get bored easy, mix it up. Some days I will play SNG's some days I will play MTT sometimes it is cash.  Makes the game a lot more fun.

I do agree with that.. I used to play SnG's all the time, and I had a small but consistent profet, mostly on paradise. These days, I play in them for a change of pace.