always missing the point... small little ego's

[Suited_Up 2]

First off.... If you want to stay in a good mood, then stop reading. Secondly, I don't really care if you don't like what I say... it's the flat out truth and you can deny it all you want.So many people on this forum are flat out assholes!. It just amazes me at the amount of stupidity involved in some of your replies. Every time I see someone trying to vent, or asking an opinion on a play... or even posting a bad beat, but trying to do so in a constructive way...Someone is always trying to act superior. Someone always has a negative thing to say about the play that to poster has made.... Always ignoring the fact that they probably made a better play than the person they're complaining about. Why does everyone here feel the need to act superior. Are you all small little people with no self esteem? I think so! So you come to the internet to try and feel like you're smarter than everyone else. Unfortunately you completely miss every point made, and just continue in your quest to boost your small little ego's!There are plenty of people here who I do like... and who give good sound advice, but the list is limited. Most of you would probably know who you are.But honestly... Why is it, that is someone posts a hand, you ignore the bad play of the other person, and just focus on the person who made the post, and then ridicule the play they made? Even though it would obviously have to be the better play, or they wouldn't post it.So what if they call an All-In with AJo.... When the other guy turns over 95... and wins.... somehow people find a reason to say you never should have called with the AJ.... are you ****ing kidding me? Obviously it was the right play.... yet someone has to take the opportunity to act smarter than everyone else. You guys are ****ing douchebags and need to get something better to do with your time than sit around and try to make yourself feel superior by pointing out mistakes by others. And the main key... is that you mostly point out mistakes that were never mistakes!!!If you're really that insecure that you can't listen to the point of a thread, and would rather just attack the person for writing it, then that's very very sad.

[jayistheman 0]

Why does everyone here feel the need to act superior.

i agree to a certain extent...... i, however, dont appreciate the generalizations.its much less than you think.... there are a few people who do this, but ,by no means, is it everyone.im not trying to be a smartass, just pointing out the fact that you are being a little harsh on us all for the transgressions of a select few.

[digitalmonkey 929]

Shouldn't "main key" be "main point"?BBaaahhhhhahahhhahahahahaahaha! JK

[dms26 3]

I agree with most of what you say, I guess belittling other people makes them feel better. But sometimes it needs to be pointed out if they made a mistake, even if the other player made a bigger mistake. But it should be done in a constructive way. Against better competition their mistakes will be magnified, and they need to realize that calling 2 all ins with JJ will often leave them with a slim chance of winning. But the flaming does get old

[Sullyarmy 0]

I don't know about all that but u had a few spelling errorsnah seriously though you have a good point but that is just how the internet is...or what it's about being able to make people that you are smarter than (or think you are) look stupid while in real life you would never say anything like that to someone because you would get cussed out or w/e (well most of you wouldn't, some still would cause your an *******).but that being said i think people do post things that are just asking for critisims and i think some people post it just so they can piss people off or just get a rise outta having arguments with people online because they can't tell there boss of but they can tell you off...

[cardo1971 0]

wow, my thoughts exactly, thats why i hardly ever post a reply or topic, just read mostly............. good to know i am not the only one that thinks this......... maybe when i need advise , i will just ask suited up , or smash directly.......... :bubblehelp:

[Suited_Up 2]

Why does everyone here feel the need to act superior.

i agree to a certain extent...... i, however, dont appreciate the generalizations.its much less than you think.... there are a few people who do this, but ,by no means, is it everyone.im not trying to be a smartass, just pointing out the fact that you are being a little harsh on us all for the transgressions of a select few.

You're right, maybe it's not the 90% that I make it seem like... But it just seems that I see someone doing it in every thread they have the opportunity.It's one thing to have some fun... Like the post from digitalmonkey... that's fine and good... but when someone is pissed off about a bad play... someone always feels the need to say they made the wrong play... even though they always have the better hand... it gets on my nerves.... It's like people don't even read the post, they just say... oh, he played K10... bad play... how can I make them feel stupid for it. Blah, it's so stupid!That being said... It seems as though it's not the people who post the most often. It's always the ones who lurk around and then make some smartass comment every couple days.

[Smasharoo 0]

First off.... If you want to stay in a good mood, then stop reading.Secondly, I don't really care if you don't like what I say... it's the flat out truth and you can deny it all you want.So many people on this forum are flat out unable to learn! It just amazes me at the amount of stupidity involved in some of their responses to replies.Every time I see someone trying to vent, or asking an opinion on a play... or even posting a bad beat, but trying to do so in a constructive way...Someone is always trying to help them. Someone always has a way to help them in the future to avoid the bad play that poster has made....but the poster allways ignoresthe fact that they made a terrible play and instead focuses on the fact that their opponent made a worse play!Why does everyone here feel the need to act so defensive. Are you all small little people with no self esteem? I think so! So you come to the internet and are unable to ever get better at playing. Unfortunately you completely miss every point made, and just continue in your quest to boost your small little ego's!There are plenty of people here who I do like... and who can learn and get better. Most of you would probably know who you are.But honestly... Why is it, that is someone posts a hand, you ignore the bad play you made, and just focus on the result of an individual hand, and then justify playing badly because someone else played worse? Even though it would obviously have to be the better play, or they wouldn't post it.So what if you call an All-In with AJo.... When the other guy turns over 95 that doesn't make calling with AJo the right play.... are you censored kidding me? Obviously it wasn't the right play.... yet someone has to take the opportunity to act hurt about someone pointing it out. You guys are censored douchebags and need to get something better to do with your time than sit around and try to make yourself feel conpetent by not being able to say "I was wrong".And the main key... is that you mostly can't even admit that you've made mistakes!!!If you're really that insecure that you can't listen to the point of a thread, and would rather just make pathetic pleas for sympathy than get better, then that's very very sad.

[cardo1971 0]

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[Suited_Up 2]

I agree with most of what you say, I guess belittling other people makes them feel better.    But sometimes it needs to be pointed out if they made a mistake, even if the other player made a bigger mistake. But it should be done in a constructive way. Against better competition their mistakes will be magnified, and they need to realize that calling 2 all ins with JJ will often leave them with a slim chance of winning. But the flaming does get old

I agree with this too... and that would be fine... but it's rare when someone says... well that guys play was terrible... but here's something to think about.... it's usually just flat out... you made a bad play you desrerved to lose that hand. Obviously this stems from my recent post (now in bad beat forum)... I was mad as hell and venting, and still get people wanting to talk shit about my play. But I see it every time someone posts anything similar.And if you go read that thread... http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...p?p=30990#30990The guy won and I got pissed off and started to say stuff... and the guy on my left tells me that If I didn't play my cards wrong I wouldn't have lost... I'm like, what the hell are you talking about? He told me folding KQ with a big stack.The hand he was talking about was a few before... I called and someone goes all-in for like 1500... 2 people call... and I'm last to act... so obviously I folded. Well it ends up the player who went all in had the same hand as me and flopped 2 pair. I mentioned this... and he brings it up saying I misplayed my cards... with 3 all-ins ahead of me??? UGH.. these dumbasses are so frustrating!

[Vidgames 0]

First off.... If you want to stay in a good mood, then stop reading.  Secondly, I don't really care if you don't like what I say...  it's the flat out truth and you can deny it all you want.So many people on this forum are flat out assholes!.  It just amazes me at the amount of stupidity involved in some of your replies.    Every time I see someone trying to vent, or asking an opinion on a play... or even posting a bad beat, but trying to do so in a constructive way...Someone is always trying to act superior.  Someone always has a negative thing to say about the play that to poster has made.... Always ignoring the fact that they probably made a better play than the person they're complaining about.[snip]

As an Internet veteran, I can say that, yes, it's the nature of the Internet and message boards for people to type things they wouldn't likely say if they were face-to-face with a person. There's no accountability for smacking someone verbally in a message board, and there's the perception of anonymity and "safety" that posting something nasty about someone else won't draw anything in the way of repercussions.As you said, there are a few people I could count on for honest opinions (and a few that used to be in the "nasty'" category who seem to be changing their ways), but far more who are willing to takes shots at other posters. (I especially find myself shaking my head at those who criticize others for their spelling and grammar, while using bad spelling and grammar themselves.)As we'll both probably find out after these posts, the juveniles will always be there in force, and there's little that can be done other than try to filter those who choose to be less than helpful. It's a signal-to-noise ratio that's not likely to change radically. Well, you can bring posts to the attention of moderators--and previous messages here seem to indicate that those running this board won't tolerate the nastiness...I'll end with a quote from Gene Spafford, who was one of the early pioneers of Usenet newsgroups and posting etiquette. He said (and I would replace "Usenet" here with "Online message boards" for context):"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea --massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and asource of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expectit." A E

[JeremyG 0]

OMG this guy is mad because I took him to task in this thread:http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...p?p=31018#31018I did comment on the other person's play. I'd have done the same thing, with you raising such a small amount preflop I'd put you on a weak Ace, and no way you'd hit that flop. If I was that guy, and hit the flop I'd raise all-in post-flop also.This guy's CALL of the other guy's all in was just STUPID. Top pair may NOT have been good there.But of course our lovely OP didn't read my entire post, he'd prefer to whine and complain about his "bad beat" when he played it wrong the entire time.He's one of these guys in love with the ace... ace rags... ace rags sooooted. And he's complaining about being beat.

[MrConceit 0]

I agree that belittling to belittle is very bad. There is also a difference between a preflop mistake and a postflop mistake in limit. Everybody just fucosses on preflop IE: their exact two cards. If somebody is posting actual hand histories, they appear to want criteques. I told someone (when his set of aces got cracked) that betting the river was a Bad Idea. The only likely draw out there was a flush, and it hit on the river (he got checkraised). I was just trying to help him avoid losing bets in the future.I guess if people don't want comments on their postflop play when posting bad beats (I don't know why you post them really then...) they should say so in the thread title or something. Maybe make a bad beat forum category so I can avoid reading it?

[Suited_Up 2]

Smash, you were one of the ones who I don't have a problem with... but thanks anyway for trying to put me in my place. You missed the point too I think. It's not that you can't give advice... but do it in a constructive way... don't just ridicule a play... and then ignore the main topic of the whole post. If someone made a bad play.... but someone made a worse one... Maybe mention the worse one first... have a little sympathy and then explain the problem with the original. Either way... everything in poker is relative and some plays will be bad in some spots, and ok in others. The play I made last night that I'm so pissed about was fine in my opinion... because I know how the table was playing... nobody else here does. I minimum raised with a vulnerable hand... but it was to either steal blinds, or hit the flop well with it. So not to commit so much of my stack to it. If I miss the flop I can get away from it, but I didn't miss the flop, and busted out with the best hand. My play was fine.

[Smasharoo 0]

What's the big deal about saying "Yeah, I know my pre-flop call was pertty loose" and just moving on?I post hands on occasion in the $50 to $1000 thing where people say "why'd you do that?" and I say "Dunno, just stupid I guess" or whatever.It only becomes a big deal when you take personal offense because someone thinks you made a bad play. Just my oppinion.

[Suited_Up 2]

OMG this guy is mad because I took him to task in this thread:http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...p?p=31018#31018I did comment on the other person's play. I'd have done the same thing, with you raising such a small amount preflop I'd put you on a weak Ace, and no way you'd hit that flop. If I was that guy, and hit the flop I'd raise all-in post-flop also.This guy's CALL of the other guy's all in was just STUPID. Top pair may NOT have been good there.But of course our lovely OP didn't read my entire post, he'd prefer to whine and complain about his "bad beat" when he played it wrong the entire time.He's one of these guys in love with the ace... ace rags... ace rags sooooted. And he's complaining about being beat.

You are ****ing retarded. You have absolutely no idea how I play, so don't try and tell me what hands I'm in love with. That is a hand I throw away 99% of the time... I played it here, and I was right about having the best hand wasn't I??? So your argument has absolutely no ground to stand on. Don't tell me how I play, because you have no clue! I will complain all the **** I want... I wanted to vent and I did... you are the loser who wants to waste time to try to feel smarter by telling me that I'm in love with Axs.... With absolutely no basis to think something like that. You are exactly the type of dumb shit that I am talking about, and you just proved my point completely.

[Suited_Up 2]

What's the big deal about saying "Yeah, I know my pre-flop call was pertty loose" and just moving on?I post hands on occasion in the $50 to $1000 thing where people say "why'd you do that?" and I say "Dunno, just stupid I guess" or whatever.It only becomes a big deal when you take personal offense because someone thinks you made a bad play.  Just my oppinion.

Yes it was... I know that... and I don't normally play that way... but I got my stack to the point I did by doing something right! I admit mistakes all the time, half the bad beats I post are because I did something stupid... and I know it. I have no problem admitting I made a loose play. What's the problem with saying "That other guy was stupid, you had him" and move on?

[Smasharoo 0]

Hey, I've got an idea.Let's stop this thred right here and all just move on.Really.You vented, people replied with varying degrees of sympathy or derision, let's just let it go this one time.The last thing this place needs is another thread about one poster being bothered by the way another poster critiqued his play. If you think it was way out of line PM J-dub and let him take care of it.

[digitalmonkey 929]

....and the moral of the story is...

First off.... If you want to stay in a good mood, then stop reading.Secondly, I don't really care if you don't like what I say... it's the flat out truth and you can deny it all you want.So many people on this forum are flat out unable to learn! It just amazes me at the amount of stupidity involved in some of their responses to replies.Every time I see someone trying to vent, or asking an opinion on a play... or even posting a bad beat, but trying to do so in a constructive way...Someone is always trying to help them. Someone always has a way to help them in the future to avoid the bad play that poster has made....but the poster allways ignores the fact that they made a terrible play and instead focuses on the fact that their opponent made a worse play!Why does everyone here feel the need to act so defensive. Are you all small little people with no self esteem? I think so! So you come to the internet and are unable to ever get better at playing. Unfortunately you completely miss every point made, and just continue in your quest to boost your small little ego's!There are plenty of people here who I do like... and who can learn and get better. Most of you would probably know who you are.But honestly... Why is it, that is someone posts a hand, you ignore the bad play you made, and just focus on the result of an individual hand, and then justify playing badly because someone else played worse? Even though it would obviously have to be the better play, or they wouldn't post it.So what if you call an All-In with AJo.... When the other guy turns over 95 that doesn't make calling with AJo the right play.... are you censored kidding me? Obviously it wasn't the right play.... yet someone has to take the opportunity to act hurt about someone pointing it out. You guys are censored douchebags and need to get something better to do with your time than sit around and try to make yourself feel conpetent by not being able to say "I was wrong".And the main key... is that you mostly can't even admit that you've made mistakes!!!If you're really that insecure that you can't listen to the point of a thread, and would rather just make pathetic pleas for sympathy than get better, then that's very very sad.

[Smasharoo 0]

What's the problem with saying "That other guy was stupid, you had him" and move on?People are trying to help YOU play better. They don't care about the other guy.

[Suited_Up 2]

It only becomes a big deal when you take personal offense because someone thinks you made a bad play.  

As for this... I'm STILL mad about the original play... so I don't really care about keeping my cool and letting stupid people's comments slide off my back like I might normally do.... I am mad, and I have no problem fighting right now... So if people want to act like retards, I will go ahead and fight right along with them, because that's just the mood I'm in.

[Suited_Up 2]

What's the problem with saying "That other guy was stupid, you had him" and move on?People are trying to help YOU play better.  They don't care about the other guy.

I only posted it because it sucked and I didn't exactly want to be ridiculed and told that I'm in love with hands by some numbnuts who has never seen me play and wants to look at one hand and make a huge generalization about my whole game.It's obvious they don't care about the other guy... but comments that these people are making are not to help my game, they are to boost their own small little ego's by making fun of other people.

[cardo1971 0]

WOW!!!! nuf said

[Smasharoo 0]

It's obvious they don't care about the other guy... but comments that these people are making are not to help my game, they are to boost their own small little ego's by making fun of other people./shrug.So?What about that is offensive? Don't you see the trap here. If you're offended by that you're the exact personality type that you're so bothered by here.

[JeremyG 0]

LOL I could have guessed you'd respond that way.Everyone check the other thread and if you really think I was out of line then please let me know.The guy risked his entire stack on A9, and then CALLED an all-in for ALL his chips with only TPTK... I listed about 12 hands that had him KILLED at that point. TPTK was NOT good in that situation about 80% of the time.but I am the one that is "retarded" for pointing out HE made a bad play?