rank the pros by net worth

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Mike Matusow is out of jail, and you can't put a price on Freedom. So, Mike Matusow.

I agree 100 percent

[EdOwen 0]

I heard Danny Nguyen just entered the 10 million club with his sponsors. I can't confirm it but I heard he was sponsored by Banquet Frozen Dinners.

[waldo 0]

i cannot believe no one has said Chip Reese, he had made more money at poker in the last 30 years than anyone, not to mention how many millions he has made at sports betting

[PFunk 0]

i cannot believe no one has said Chip Reese, he had made more money at poker in the last 30 years than anyone, not to mention how many millions he has made at sports betting

He's been mentioned several times, and I would definetly include him high up on the list...but all the money he's won on sports betting? ha...Everyone knows that any self respecting poker player wins millions at the tables and loses most of it on sports betting-P.

[jafrey 0]

Ok so a couple points.Hellmuth's wife is a surgeon or something guessing at least a couple million in house.Brunson has homes (pictured in super system II) that are prolly worth a tidy sum. Guessing not many in the 50 million range.Also guessing DN has around 10 or I would venture to say his "take on all" approach at the Wynn would not be happenning. No spell check no grammar. Flame on. Just my opinion.

[PFunk 0]

Ok so a couple points.Hellmuth's wife is a surgeon or something guessing at least a couple million in house.

psychologist.

[arerad 0]

Stylin_Fish wrote: Mike Matusow is out of jail, and you can't put a price on Freedom. So, Mike Matusow. I agree 100 percent

Mike Matusow will never be free.He's a prisoner in his own mind and always will be...

[Muttley 0]

Ted Forrest made about $12m in 2002 alone. check cardplayer.com for details (read latest issue). Check Barry Greensteins site which says he has made about $20m from the game over the last decade. Much of that was when the games weren't as big as they are now. The limit has only grown to 4000/8000 over the last two to three years. Also, on Greensteins site there is an interview with him saying that all the top pros will have their earnings topped by Ivey who was described by both Greenstein and Brunson as the best player in the world at the moment.

[The Enforcer 0]

I have no idea about the guys who made money outside of poker, but ranking their earnings in poker realated stuff I would make this ranking:1. The Matador Don Everest2. Mike Sexton3. Doyle4. Chip ReeseSexton has got to be the richest because of Party Poker and WPT. Doyle has made a lot in cash games and his name and book sales dont hurt. Hellmuth and Negreanu are no where near the top. I dont think any tournament player can be in this discussion.Doyle said he was down like $6M this year. That means his bankroll has got to be WAY above 10M; I would put it at 20-25 minimum

[rbakken2504 0]

Wow a lot of you people are estimating WAY low. It's like a bunch of 12 year olds that think a million dollars is the biggest sum of money ever. I have read several times that Doyle Brunson is worth upwards of 100 million dollars. Just think about it, sales of supersystem alone are HUGE and the money he makes from his pokerroom and endorsements, let alone cash games, is at least a couple million. I don't really want to speculate on the other players so I won't.

I was waiting for someone to make a correct estimate, so I didnt have too

[theresa113 0]

Read "The Professor, The Banker, and The Suicide King" Great read with actual FACTS that should shed some light on some of your questions. I would say Ted Forrest has a significant bankroll.

I did read it. The pro that has been the smartest with money (according to the book) is Todd Brunson. He is a sharp investor. He helped his dad make investments as well.

[waldo 0]

i cannot believe no one has said Chip Reese, he had made more money at poker in the last 30 years than anyone, not to mention how many millions he has made at sports betting

He's been mentioned several times, and I would definetly include him high up on the list...but all the money he's won on sports betting? ha...Everyone knows that any self respecting poker player wins millions at the tables and loses most of it on sports betting-P.

yes he wins at sports betting, he teamed up with a guy from cornell and they developed a computer program to find discrepencies with the lines of bookies around the countyhes not mattasow just betting every game out there

[daniel4evar 0]

I read somewhere that Doyle recently made a $100 million investment so I guess hes worth at least that much

[bengy3 0]

Wow a lot of you people are estimating WAY low. It's like a bunch of 12 year olds that think a million dollars is the biggest sum of money ever. I have read several times that Doyle Brunson is worth upwards of 100 million dollars. Just think about it' date=' sales of supersystem alone are HUGE and the money he makes from his pokerroom and endorsements' date=' let alone cash games' date=' is at least a couple million. I don't really want to speculate on the other players so I won't.[/quote''']Also, the people speculating Phill Helmuth isnt so rich, are way off. The guy plays the tournament circuit for free, has several well paying sponsors, and is basically a walking publicity w.h.o.r.e.....His name alone makes him alot of money....So what if he doesnt win millions in side cash games every month...He also doesnt lose any either-P.

You sir, are the one that is way off.http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker/colum...teve&id=2193930

[PFunk 0]

Wow a lot of you people are estimating WAY low. It's like a bunch of 12 year olds that think a million dollars is the biggest sum of money ever. I have read several times that Doyle Brunson is worth upwards of 100 million dollars. Just think about it' date=' sales of supersystem alone are HUGE and the money he makes from his pokerroom and endorsements' date=' let alone cash games' date=' is at least a couple million. I don't really want to speculate on the other players so I won't.[/quote''']Also, the people speculating Phill Helmuth isnt so rich, are way off. The guy plays the tournament circuit for free, has several well paying sponsors, and is basically a walking publicity w.h.o.r.e.....His name alone makes him alot of money....So what if he doesnt win millions in side cash games every month...He also doesnt lose any either-P.

You sir, are the one that is way off.http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker/colum...&id=2193930

Bwaha right...how?I dont see your point linking me to some dingy column about staking players, of course that happens, but I was talking about Phil Helmuth, and sure his name is mentioned, but if you think players are staking him because he needs the money you are wrong...Why do u think he is always wearing that same crap he wears, he is a walking endorsement for them and it is in his contracts...ultimatebet, oakley, and god knows who else would JUMP at the chance to advertise on Hellmuth if all it would cost them is paying his tournament entries, but they are doing that and paying much more.....Dude is like 2nd or 3rd on the wsop all time money list at like 4 million or something, written books, has merchandising, agents, wireless cell phone games, tons of personal appearances, seminars/lectures etc etc etc....i need not go on...I think he does alright.Jesus, thanks.....Now you've made me sounf like some Helmuth fan or something when my only point is that he is pretty well off-P.

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I remember from the WSOP tournament of champions that Chip Reese said that there was usually a million dollar winner and loser ever day. With million dollar swings per session, I think it's pretty safe to say that the regulars have rolls of over 10 million.

That could be, but I still think it's most likely that at least a slight majority of the regulars are technically under-bankrolled.In the big game, $1 million is 125BB if we're only taking the limit games into account.Consider a small stakes player that uses the 300BB rule. Losing 125BB in one session would be losing almost half of one's bankroll in one session, which is not unheard of. A little more unheard of would be losing 125BB in ten straight sessions, which is what a big game player w/ a $10 M bankroll would have to do to go broke.Say the avg. bankroll for big game players is $4.8 million (500BB). In order to go broke, a player would have to be the "big loser" (-$1 million) for five straight sessions. While losing a normal buy-in amount, say 25BB, for five sessions in a row isn't that improbable, losing that buy in 20 times in a row (which is equivalent to BIG LOSER x 5) seems pretty out of hand.While it's probably correct to be bankrolled upwards of 1000BB, I just don't see all the top players adhering strictly to it.That said, I'd be happy to hear that they all have $10 M bankrolls :-)edited: to remove double quote

[PFunk 0]

Geez...Even as an avid poker player/fan, and a personal lover of money, it is crazzzzy to imagine these guys throwing around millions of dollars in regular sessions...A $10 million dollar bankroll>?wow

[nomo4life 0]

Well you have to figure all the money that these players make. Most accomplished pros have netted a big 1 million dollar tournament or near it. Obviously with the high stakes entry fees they pay and knowing that you can't place in every tournament you enter, you figure they make a killing at the cash games.Take Phil Hellmuth. He primarily plays in the tournaments, but look at his other sponsorships. His new telephone poker is growing, Ultimate Bet, Oakley, books, and other merchandise sporting "pokerbrat". He may have won a lot of money playing poker but probably 2/3 of his income and most other big named pros income come from outside sources. I still have to say Paul Phillips has to be the highest net worth player of the "big names". I would rank the players in this order.Total Income (poker/endorsements/etc)Paul PhillipsDoyle BrunsonChip ReesePhil GordonMike SextonPhil HellmuthPoker Income Cash GamesPhil Ivey (spends more time than n e one else playing cards)John D'Agostino (guy makes killing on Full Tilt every night)Doyle BrunsonChip ReeseJohnny ChanPoker Income Tournaments (not just WSOP)Chris Ferguson (always in the hunt in every tournament)Doyle BrunsonErik Seidel (Great tournament player)Johnny ChanJohn Juanda (I know he's young, but he's always right there)Players that I have read about having bankroll issuesAmir VahediChris Moneymaker (fluke 2003 win, has done nothing since)Mike Matusow (big swings, good player though)Gus Hansen (aggressive style has gotten him in trouble)Sam FarhaFeel free to criticize

[PoppinFresh 0]

I remember from the WSOP tournament of champions that Chip Reese said that there was usually a million dollar winner and loser ever day. With million dollar swings per session, I think it's pretty safe to say that the regulars have rolls of over 10 million.

That could be, but I still think it's most likely that at least a slight majority of the regulars are technically under-bankrolled.In the big game, $1 million is 125BB if we're only taking the limit games into account.Consider a small stakes player that uses the 300BB rule. Losing 125BB in one session would be losing almost half of one's bankroll in one session, which is not unheard of. A little more unheard of would be losing 125BB in ten straight sessions, which is what a big game player w/ a $10 M bankroll would have to do to go broke.Say the avg. bankroll for big game players is $4.8 million (500BB). In order to go broke, a player would have to be the "big loser" (-$1 million) for five straight sessions. While losing a normal buy-in amount, say 25BB, for five sessions in a row isn't that improbable, losing that buy in 20 times in a row (which is equivalent to BIG LOSER x 5) seems pretty out of hand.While it's probably correct to be bankrolled upwards of 1000BB, I just don't see all the top players adhering strictly to it.That said, I'd be happy to hear that they all have $10 M bankrolls :-)edited: to remove double quote

You can't directly compare the two. A couple of things:1) There isn't usually a 125BB winner and loser in a small stakes session, it's probably closer to 30BB. Assuming a small stakes player needs a 300BB roll to withstand the swings, a player in the big game would need much more than that.2) As you move up in limits to 50/100 and above I doubt there are many players playing with a 300BB roll. More likely is 1000BB(for those who practice proper BR management), it's just not the same thing as small stakes.Although I doubt that many of the big game players necessarily have a seperate roll that if they lost they would have to get a stake. They'd use money from their assets to keep playing. Regardless though, I think it's ridiculous to suggest that any big game regular has a net worth of less than 10 million.

[Chiggleslap 0]

You can't directly compare the two. A couple of things:1) There isn't usually a 125BB winner and loser in a small stakes session, it's probably closer to 30BB. Assuming a small stakes player needs a 300BB roll to withstand the swings, a player in the big game would need much more than that.2) As you move up in limits to 50/100 and above I doubt there are many players playing with a 300BB roll. More likely is 1000BB, it's just not the same thing as small stakes.

Aagh! I know, Poppin, I even said you can't compare the two. That was the entire point of my post w/ the link in it.The reason I was showing some numbers from a small stakes player's perspective is to give an idea of how much a $1 million downswing is relative to said small-stakes player.There's absolutely no way that 300BB would cut it in the big game. I'm just saying that somewhere between 600 and 1200BB, and probably more often closer to 600BB than to 1200BB is a likely bankroll for most big game players.

[PoppinFresh 0]

You can't directly compare the two. A couple of things:1) There isn't usually a 125BB winner and loser in a small stakes session, it's probably closer to 30BB. Assuming a small stakes player needs a 300BB roll to withstand the swings, a player in the big game would need much more than that.2) As you move up in limits to 50/100 and above I doubt there are many players playing with a 300BB roll. More likely is 1000BB, it's just not the same thing as small stakes.

Aagh! I know, Poppin, I even said you can't compare the two. That was the entire point of my post w/ the link in it.The reason I was showing some numbers from a small stakes player's perspective is to give an idea of how much a $1 million downswing is relative to said small-stakes player.There's absolutely no way that 300BB would cut it in the big game. I'm just saying that somewhere between 600 and 1200BB, and probably more often closer to 600BB than to 1200BB is a likely bankroll for most big game players.

Haha okay sorry :-) I'm too tired now :?

[Iwu4u 0]

Not even 50 million.Maybe 25 if your lucky.

Maybe your forgetting about Phil Hellmuth. He's gonna make 400 million selling Phil Hellmuth toilet paper.

[AceJackOffS 0]

Everyone is missing two names for sure...Chris Ferguson and Andy Blochthe two of them own the company tiltware which developed the software for Full Tilt Poker.Also Andy made a lot of money being a part of the MIT blackjack team.Read the book aces and kings and it tells a lot about players income and the book bringing down the house about the MIT blackjack team.(PS what about Bill Fillmaff? sw)