any reason to stay in this?

[RayPowers 0]

Noone is short stacked in this hand.***** Hand History for Game 13393238 *****0.10/0.20 Texas Hold'em (Split Limit) Table Seed (10 max) (Real Money) -- Seat 10 is the buttonRay_Powers : Small Blind ($0.05)LUCASSY : Big Blind ($0.10)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to Ray_Powers [ Qh As ]Hampfred : Foldmacchine1 : Call ($0.10)stevepar78 : Foldcapthook006 : Call ($0.10)Antonella16 : Raise ($0.20)cantwin : FoldRay_Powers : Call ($0.15)--- Call here or not? Its unsuited, but the raiser is very late position and could have any number of hands...LUCASSY : Call ($0.10)macchine1 : Call ($0.10)capthook006 : Call ($0.10)** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9d Kd 7c ]Ray_Powers : Bet ($0.10)--- As seems to be my trend, I like to bet out to see where I am. Is this a big leak? Its starting to feel like it. I'm starting to think that I always have to bet to see where I stand in the hand, when its entirely possible the others may give me this info without me throwing a bet into the pot.LUCASSY : Raise ($0.20)macchine1 : Call ($0.20)capthook006 : Call ($0.20)Antonella16 : Raise ($0.30)Ray_Powers : FoldRaised and re-raised, and two callers on the original raise. I don't see how I am not so far behind here I can recoop. I fold like a little wussy.Thoughts?

[dms26 3]

check/fold the flop, there are way too many in the hand for a bluff to work.

[TJ_Eckleburg 0]

check/fold the flop, there are way too many in the hand for a bluff to work.

Werd.

[rog 0]

--- As seems to be my trend, I like to bet out to see where I am. Is this a big leak? Its starting to feel like it. I'm starting to think that I always have to bet to see where I stand in the hand, when its entirely possible the others may give me this info without me throwing a bet into the pot.

You dont need info from others to know where you're at in this hand. You have no pair, no draw, and one overcard. You have 6 outs at most, and more likely 3. There's a flush draw and a straight draw on the board, neither of which you have any part of. You have 4 opponents, one of whom raised preflop, and one of whom cold-called. Oh, let's not forget you're completely out of position. What more do you need to know in order to check/fold this hand?

[RayPowers 0]

You dont need info from others to know where you're at in this hand. You have no pair' date=' no draw' date=' and one overcard. You have 6 outs at most, and more likely 3. There's a flush draw and a straight draw on the board, neither of which you have any part of. You have 4 opponents, one of whom raised preflop, and one of whom cold-called. Oh, let's not forget you're completely out of position. What more do you need to know in order to check/fold this hand?[/quote'']My (admittedly really bad) way of thinking was I need to know if someone hit the King or not. But the reality is, if someone hit the king they're betting it, so the lead in bet was probably dumb.... Ray

[CodyHartman 0]

yeah you should stay in b/c what do you stand to lose? A buck??? j/k

[rog 0]

My (admittedly really bad) way of thinking was I need to know if someone hit the King or not. But the reality is, if someone hit the king they're betting it, so the lead in bet was probably dumb.... Ray

I used to make plays like that all the time. Realize though that unless your A high is best right now against 4 callers (almost never is), the straight and flush draws are actually both favorites over you. Preflop raiser will bet/raise, and so will K, 9, and maybe 7. You dont find out how many outs you have by betting.

[Actuary 3]

3 betting preflop to try to isolate late pos raiser seems plausible.Anyone else?

[speedz99 145]

3 betting preflop to try to isolate late pos raiser seems plausible.Anyone else?

Maybe...but I don't like isolating with AQ. It's a drawing hand that can also be dominated. I'd rather just see the flop from OOP and check/fold when nothing develops.