white sox just hit a gutshot on the river....

[kers2 0]

I lost my 5$ bet. I bet on white sox with a -1 1/2 spread and lost. Just to let you know it was my 2nd time betting on baseball. does anyone know what the 1/2 would mean? a half a point? how does that work?Who does everyone think will win tomorrow< Houson or St. Louis?

Yeah you bet that the White Sox had to win by 2 runs

[BilliardsBoy 0]

Adult Swim > MLBMost true statement ever.The worst thing about being on coop rather than being at school is that I used to be able to stay up real late and enjoy all that AS has to offer. Now I gotta go to bed around 11-12, so I miss out on so much, especially on Sunday nights.Sigh..... oh how I miss my Venture Bros., Sealab, Harvey Birdman, ATHF, and all the fine programing that Adult Swim has to offer.

[Forrest Crunk 0]

the fault here lies with the Angel's catcher. i was a catcher in college, one of the things coaches tell you is that in a situation like that, you ALWAYS tag the batter if there could be any doubt as to whether the ball hit the ground or not. even the picture posted above offers proof of how close it was to hitting the ground. umpires are human and miss calls, we all know that, in such a close situation, the batter must always be tagged, it is a routine precaution that Josh Paul missed in his excitement, and AJ took advantage of it, great play by AJ. plus, if we were to go back and look at the play where Rowand was thrown out at home, replays clearly showed his hand touching the plate before he was tagged - the umpires were clearly not performing well last night.

[KowboyKoop 0]

the fault here lies with the Angel's catcher. i was a catcher in college, one of the things coaches tell you is that in a situation like that, you ALWAYS tag the batter if there could be any doubt as to whether the ball hit the ground or not. even the picture posted above offers proof of how close it was to hitting the ground. umpires are human and miss calls, we all know that, in such a close situation, the batter must always be tagged, it is a routine precaution that Josh Paul missed in his excitement, and AJ took advantage of it, great play by AJ. plus, if we were to go back and look at the play where Rowand was thrown out at home, replays clearly showed his hand touching the plate before he was tagged - the umpires were clearly not performing well last night.

Typical reaction from the team that got EXTREMELY fortunate in the 9th inning....yeah, you are right about the catcher, that he should have tagged the runner, just in case, but that DOES NOT change the fact that the umpire called A.J. OUT, and then changed the call. If the ball had clearly hit the ground on strike three, the ump. would not have made the fist, he would have just made the first motion that he made, the hand wave or whatever, to signal swing and miss, and then would have made the fist ONLY when A.J. was tagged or thrown out. Yes, it was a heads-up play by A.J. and you can't fault the ChiSox for anything at all, but you should acknowledge that it was MUCH more than a missed call, it was a bending of the rules to allow the ChiSox to have an extra out in the inning. No other way around it, so don't try to just say that it was a typical "bad call" just like other missed calls. IT WAS MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE THAN THAT, IT WAS A DISGRACE.

[Jadaki 0]

Typical reaction from the team that got EXTREMELY fortunate in the 9th inning....yeah, you are right about the catcher, that he should have tagged the runner, just in case, but that DOES NOT change the fact that the umpire called A.J. OUT, and then changed the call. If the ball had clearly hit the ground on strike three, the ump. would not have made the fist, he would have just made the first motion that he made, the hand wave or whatever, to signal swing and miss, and then would have made the fist ONLY when A.J. was tagged or thrown out. Yes, it was a heads-up play by A.J. and you can't fault the ChiSox for anything at all, but you should acknowledge that it was MUCH more than a missed call, it was a bending of the rules to allow the ChiSox to have an extra out in the inning. No other way around it, so don't try to just say that it was a typical "bad call" just like other missed calls. IT WAS MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE THAN THAT, IT WAS A DISGRACE.

Typical reactions from both sides, never seen so much crying over a baseball game before. Suck it up and move on.

[timwakefield 68]

What I didn't hear about happening and I think would have made sense, is why didn't the Angels play the game under protest after that??

Playing under protest isn't really going to do anything, except anounce that you are in protest. The only action Soscia could have taken which would have had some effect would have been to pull his team off the field. The third out had been called, inning over. But there's no way he could do this (and risk forfeiting the game) since there were still 2 outs and just a runner on first.

[KowboyKoop 0]

What I didn't hear about happening and I think would have made sense, is why didn't the Angels play the game under protest after that??

Playing under protest isn't really going to do anything, except anounce that you are in protest. The only action Soscia could have taken which would have had some effect would have been to pull his team off the field. The third out had been called, inning over. But there's no way he could do this (and risk forfeiting the game) since there were still 2 outs and just a runner on first.

I think a protest had a decent chance of working, because this is more than just a missed call...it is a broken rule. The umpire called the batter out, and then let him be safe anyways. Thus, if protested, I think MLB could have possibly forced them to go to a tenth inning...but, the playoff schedule would have to be changed..so I don't know. If I'm Scoscia, I protest though.

[timwakefield 68]

What I didn't hear about happening and I think would have made sense, is why didn't the Angels play the game under protest after that??

Playing under protest isn't really going to do anything, except anounce that you are in protest. The only action Soscia could have taken which would have had some effect would have been to pull his team off the field. The third out had been called, inning over. But there's no way he could do this (and risk forfeiting the game) since there were still 2 outs and just a runner on first.

I think a protest had a decent chance of working, because this is more than just a missed call...it is a broken rule. The umpire called the batter out, and then let him be safe anyways. Thus, if protested, I think MLB could have possibly forced them to go to a tenth inning...but, the playoff schedule would have to be changed..so I don't know. If I'm Scoscia, I protest though.

Soscia could have protested all he wanted (and he did argue for about 5 minutes), but there is no way in hell MLB would continue that game in the 10th. Chicago won, there's absolutely no way they'd change that. I don't think MLB has EVER replayed a game due to protest.