erac22 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 okay, so i just decided to play some 6 max .25/.5 nl on stars. I find a table with a 70 dollar average pot and decide to sit. There is this guy, riverloser, who apparently is a high stakes player and is tilting, going all in every hand. I guess he's done okay so far, since he's sitting with 1500 dollars, yes, at a 50 nl table. I only doubled up once on him, with 1010. I folded 99 twice, 88 once, and AK. One guy bought in for 20 before i got there and built it to 1007 when he left. My question is what is the worst hand you should call an all in with to a random hand. He was going all in every time, so I would consider his hand a random hand. Any input?thankserac Link to post Share on other sites
TheWynn 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 When he went all in what kind of cards were shown in the past hands. Did he go all in with rags, or were they all in worthy cards?? These questions and others you need to ask yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anonymous Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 okay, so i just decided to play some 6 max .25/.5 nl on stars. I find a table with a 70 dollar average pot and decide to sit. There is this guy, riverloser, who apparently is a high stakes player and is tilting, going all in every hand. I guess he's done okay so far, since he's sitting with 1500 dollars, yes, at a 50 nl table. I only doubled up once on him, with 1010. I folded 99 twice, 88 once, and AK. One guy bought in for 20 before i got there and built it to 1007 when he left. My question is what is the worst hand you should call an all in with to a random hand. He was going all in every time, so I would consider his hand a random hand. Any input?thankseracThat's a good question. Probably tens or higher as far as pairs go. And AK to AJ. If I could double up three times, I would leave the table and come back and play a little looser afterwards. You don't want to play too loose, because obviously everyone else at the table is waiting to do the same thing, and the last thing you want is to call the all-in with a pair of 7s and have someguy with two kings overcall. Link to post Share on other sites
robert f 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 okay, so i just decided to play some 6 max .25/.5 nl on stars. I find a table with a 70 dollar average pot and decide to sit. There is this guy, riverloser, who apparently is a high stakes player and is tilting, going all in every hand. I guess he's done okay so far, since he's sitting with 1500 dollars, yes, at a 50 nl table. I only doubled up once on him, with 1010. I folded 99 twice, 88 once, and AK. One guy bought in for 20 before i got there and built it to 1007 when he left. My question is what is the worst hand you should call an all in with to a random hand. He was going all in every time, so I would consider his hand a random hand. Any input?thankseracHow do you know he bought in for 20. I would wonder about that. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 every time you go all in on ps you can rebuy the max for the table. So a lot of that $ could have been from rebuys Link to post Share on other sites
PotDragon 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 I would move to another table unless I felt like flipping coins.If that were the case... J-10 or better. :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 I would move to another table unless I felt like flipping coins.If that were the case... J-10 or better. :wink:I think it would depend on the position you're in. With a lot of people to act behind you, you should only call with premium hands. If you have nobody else to act behind you and he's all in, I would call with any pair above 6s, and any 2 cards above a 10, as well as A8+. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 okay, so i just decided to play some 6 max .25/.5 nl on stars. I find a table with a 70 dollar average pot and decide to sit. There is this guy, riverloser, who apparently is a high stakes player and is tilting, going all in every hand. I guess he's done okay so far, since he's sitting with 1500 dollars, yes, at a 50 nl table. I only doubled up once on him, with 1010. I folded 99 twice, 88 once, and AK. One guy bought in for 20 before i got there and built it to 1007 when he left. My question is what is the worst hand you should call an all in with to a random hand. He was going all in every time, so I would consider his hand a random hand. Any input?thankseracI play this clown all the time. He does this at all levels of blinds. I've only played him at .5/1 and 1/2 NL though. Total donkey. Link to post Share on other sites
erac22 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 okay, so i just decided to play some 6 max .25/.5 nl on stars. I find a table with a 70 dollar average pot and decide to sit. There is this guy, riverloser, who apparently is a high stakes player and is tilting, going all in every hand. I guess he's done okay so far, since he's sitting with 1500 dollars, yes, at a 50 nl table. I only doubled up once on him, with 1010. I folded 99 twice, 88 once, and AK. One guy bought in for 20 before i got there and built it to 1007 when he left. My question is what is the worst hand you should call an all in with to a random hand. He was going all in every time, so I would consider his hand a random hand. Any input?thankseracHow do you know he bought in for 20. I would wonder about that.Sorry for not responding to anything, I had class till 420. To clarify, Riverloser is the guy who was just going all in. Some other guy had bought in for 20, so he said, and had double up enough times to have 1000 dollars. When i arrived at the table, Riverloser had around 1500, i guess from reloading everytime he went all in, and the other guy, had 255. So riverloser doubled this guy up to 1000 rebuying each time and maintaining a stack of around 1500. I bought in for 50, called his all in with 1010, and doubled up once. And to answer the question of whether he was pushing with rags, yes he was. When i doubled up, he had k3 ( i know krablar) but he was pushing with Q8, 56, anything, everytime. He pushed all in about 200 times in a row, reloading after each one. My question, though, is was i correct in folding 99 and AK? Does anyone know to do the math of your hand vs random hand?thanks for the inputerac Link to post Share on other sites
schwarz269 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 i know you dont want to do this, but if it is a truly random hand Q7 is the middle point, but im sure you want to wait for a little better hand than Q8 Link to post Share on other sites
erac22 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 i know you dont want to do this, but if it is a truly random hand Q7 is the middle point, but im sure you want to wait for a little better hand than Q8How bout this, what's the worst hand you can have to have at least a 65 percent edge over a random hand? Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty_Flop 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Impossible that he kept reloading and had 1500$... The max buy in is 50$ if youre over that amount you cant rebuy.So its possible he rebought a lot but somehow he doubled his money all the way to 1500 which at a 50 NL table is a pretty f*n good tilt session! Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Impossible that he kept reloading and had 1500$... The max buy in is 50$ if youre over that amount you cant rebuy.So its possible he rebought a lot but somehow he doubled his money all the way to 1500 which at a 50 NL table is a pretty f*n good tilt session!Hi, on pokerstars if you go allin in a NL cash game and rebuy and you don't lose the hand or are not called, it doesn't cancel out your rebuy it adds that amount into your chipstack. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirty_Flop 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 hmm didnt know that....really it shouldnt be aloud b/c just like he said this is a high stakes player ruining the game for a few people having fun at 25/50 cent.Sure its fun to double through a guy like that but what about the time you get bad beated for an amount thats pennies to him but may be a big chunk of your bankroll! Link to post Share on other sites
erac22 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 hmm didnt know that....really it shouldnt be aloud b/c just like he said this is a high stakes player ruining the game for a few people having fun at 25/50 cent.Sure its fun to double through a guy like that but what about the time you get bad beated for an amount thats pennies to him but may be a big chunk of your bankroll!Eh, you can always just leave the table, so i have no problem with it in this case. But, I don't understand the logic behind allowing reloads after an all in with no call. Anyone know why this is allowed? Link to post Share on other sites
erac22 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 okay, so i just decided to play some 6 max .25/.5 nl on stars. I find a table with a 70 dollar average pot and decide to sit. There is this guy, riverloser, who apparently is a high stakes player and is tilting, going all in every hand. I guess he's done okay so far, since he's sitting with 1500 dollars, yes, at a 50 nl table. I only doubled up once on him, with 1010. I folded 99 twice, 88 once, and AK. One guy bought in for 20 before i got there and built it to 1007 when he left. My question is what is the worst hand you should call an all in with to a random hand. He was going all in every time, so I would consider his hand a random hand. Any input?thankserac I play this clown all the time. He does this at all levels of blinds. I've only played him at .5/1 and 1/2 NL though. Total donkey. Actually he's 4th on the tourny leader board for the year, although i'm sure he plays like a donk when he's tilting on the 1/2 nl tables. Link to post Share on other sites
halvey7 0 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 okay, so i just decided to play some 6 max .25/.5 nl on stars. I find a table with a 70 dollar average pot and decide to sit. There is this guy, riverloser, who apparently is a high stakes player and is tilting, going all in every hand. I guess he's done okay so far, since he's sitting with 1500 dollars, yes, at a 50 nl table. I only doubled up once on him, with 1010. I folded 99 twice, 88 once, and AK. One guy bought in for 20 before i got there and built it to 1007 when he left. My question is what is the worst hand you should call an all in with to a random hand. He was going all in every time, so I would consider his hand a random hand. Any input?thankserac I play this clown all the time. He does this at all levels of blinds. I've only played him at .5/1 and 1/2 NL though. Total donkey. Actually he's 4th on the tourny leader board for the year, although i'm sure he plays like a donk when he's tilting on the 1/2 nl tables.LoL, I was going to post the same thing. krup is the donkey. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 How bout this, what's the worst hand you can have to have at least a 65 percent edge over a random hand?I might be wrong, but I believe the following have over 65% against a random hand:Pocket pair 77-AAAJs-AksAkoThat doesn't mean that I necessarily would call with all of those, though. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anonymous Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 okay, so i just decided to play some 6 max .25/.5 nl on stars. I find a table with a 70 dollar average pot and decide to sit. There is this guy, riverloser, who apparently is a high stakes player and is tilting, going all in every hand. I guess he's done okay so far, since he's sitting with 1500 dollars, yes, at a 50 nl table. I only doubled up once on him, with 1010. I folded 99 twice, 88 once, and AK. One guy bought in for 20 before i got there and built it to 1007 when he left. My question is what is the worst hand you should call an all in with to a random hand. He was going all in every time, so I would consider his hand a random hand. Any input?thankseracAnyone notice how this is eerily similar to Daniel's last blog post? Except in his case, he's not trying to deal with a 'maniac' at the table. He is the maniac.How would you play differently if the above listed player was actually DN? Sure, he's overbetting any two cards pre-flop, but are you confident enough that your lack of ability to play as well after the flop will be counter-balanced by you starting with better hands on average? Link to post Share on other sites
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