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but...but..but...A-Rod had alot of homeruns against the Devil Rays and the Orioles...and..and..and.....he..uh..hit some home runs in May...and..uh....made a good play one time..and uh..(this is the point where Yankee fans break down and realize they vastly overpaid for a waste of talent.)

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well in this case I have to come to the yankees defense, for what the yankees are paying AROD, you cant argue he's overpaid. Keep in mind the yankees are not paying his whole 25 million, they're really only paying something like 17 million a year, not a bad price for one of the top 5 players in baseball. However, I think this postseason did show why I'd rather have David Ortiz on my team than AROD any day. Sure Ortiz didn't have his best series ever, but he still hit .333 with a home run, and was a few feet short of a 3 run homerun late in game 3, while AROD hit a monster .133 with 0 RBIs over 5 games.

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well in this case I have to come to the yankees defense, for what the yankees are paying AROD, you cant argue he's overpaid. Keep in mind the yankees are not paying his whole 25 million, they're really only paying something like 17 million a year, not a bad price for one of the top 5 players in baseball. However, I think this postseason did show why I'd rather have David Ortiz on my team than AROD any day. Sure Ortiz didn't have his best series ever, but he still hit .333 with a home run, and was a few feet short of a 3 run homerun late in game 3, while AROD hit a monster .133 with 0 RBIs over 5 games.
I understand the Yanks didn't pay all of his salary, but I still say they vastly overpaid someone who simply feasts on bad pitching and then fades away when the pressure is on.
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well in this case I have to come to the yankees defense, for what the yankees are paying AROD, you cant argue he's overpaid. Keep in mind the yankees are not paying his whole 25 million, they're really only paying something like 17 million a year, not a bad price for one of the top 5 players in baseball. However, I think this postseason did show why I'd rather have David Ortiz on my team than AROD any day. Sure Ortiz didn't have his best series ever, but he still hit .333 with a home run, and was a few feet short of a 3 run homerun late in game 3, while AROD hit a monster .133 with 0 RBIs over 5 games.
I'm no Yankee's fan, but this arguement is dumb. Anyone can go on a hot or cold streak over 5 games. And being a "few feet short of a home run" isn't exactly mind blowing.
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well in this case I have to come to the yankees defense, for what the yankees are paying AROD, you cant argue he's overpaid. Keep in mind the yankees are not paying his whole 25 million, they're really only paying something like 17 million a year, not a bad price for one of the top 5 players in baseball. However, I think this postseason did show why I'd rather have David Ortiz on my team than AROD any day. Sure Ortiz didn't have his best series ever, but he still hit .333 with a home run, and was a few feet short of a 3 run homerun late in game 3, while AROD hit a monster .133 with 0 RBIs over 5 games.
I'm no Yankee's fan, but this arguement is dumb. Anyone can go on a hot or cold streak over 5 games. And being a "few feet short of a home run" isn't exactly mind blowing.
If this were a one time thing, then you are correct. However, A-Rod has never performed well in the clutch and has always brung every team down. He leaves Seattle, they get better. He leaves Texas, they get better. He goes to the Yankees, BoSox beat them for first time. OOPS
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so 3 and 5 games aren't enough? ok thenDavid Ortiz: 38 postseason games8 home runs 32 RBI including 5 home runs and 19 RBI in last years postseasonAlex Rodriguez:31 postseason games6 home runs16 RBIis david ortiz on a permanent hot streak in the playoffs, or is he just better in the clutch than arod is?edit: heres some more stats:runners in scoring position this year: arod .290, ortiz .352runners in scoring position and 2 out: arod .302, ortiz .368men on and 2 out: arod .292, ortiz .316bases empty: arod .337, ortiz .285clearly ortiz has a history of coming through in the clutch while arod does not

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i never said they were horrible, but he chokes in the playoffs, and Ortiz should be MVP, also, for what he gets paid he should be better than 100% of other players in baseball

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Yea cause arods numbers are horrible...They are only better than 90% of the league.
Baseball is about a lot more than numbers. For example, his numbers are alot worse in pressure situations (see above stats..)
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Yea cause arods numbers are horrible...They are only better than 90% of the league.
Baseball is about a lot more than numbers. For example, his numbers are alot worse in pressure situations (see above stats..)
Did you read this before hitting submit?
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i never said they were horrible, but he chokes in the playoffs, and Ortiz should be MVP, also, for what he gets paid he should be better than 100% of other players in baseball
His preformance is hardly choking. It's not like he never got on base, scored a run, made a defensive play (something Ortiz can't do), or helped his team in general.No one can preform better than everyone all the time. You can argue he is overpayed all you want, but that doesn't mean the guy can't play. In the long run it doesn't matter, cause Ortiz and Arod are both sitting on their ass at home watching the playoffs now.
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Yea cause arods numbers are horrible...They are only better than 90% of the league.
Baseball is about a lot more than numbers. For example, his numbers are alot worse in pressure situations (see above stats..)
Did you read this before hitting submit?
There was supposed to be the word "overall" in the first sentence, before "numbers."I meant, that baseball is about a lot more than OVERALL numbers. For example, his numbers are alot worst in pressure situations.My bad.
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i never said they were horrible, but he chokes in the playoffs, and Ortiz should be MVP, also, for what he gets paid he should be better than 100% of other players in baseball
His preformance is hardly choking. It's not like he never got on base, scored a run, made a defensive play (something Ortiz can't do), or helped his team in general.No one can preform better than everyone all the time. You can argue he is overpayed all you want, but that doesn't mean the guy can't play. In the long run it doesn't matter, cause Ortiz and Arod are both sitting on their ass at home watching the playoffs now.
You are right to a degree, nobody is saying A-Rod is not one of the best in the league or that he should be the best player ALL the time. However, if you pay someone that much, he should be able to perform in the playoffs, plain and simple. A-Rod has not done that. His numbers are so inflated because he simply feasts on bad pitchers and puts up monster numbers, but when the big games come, he becomes just an average hitter. Also, his defense isn't THAT good, that is just something the media likes to say to pump him up a little bit. Not that he is a bad defenesive player, but he isn't THE best 3B like ESPN will tell you.
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If he just feeds off bad pitchers, how come everyone in the league can't put up the same numbers? Or are the Yankees opponents just putting up their worst players against him every chance they get?Oh wait, that doesn't happen. He faces the same pitchers everyone else does.I don't even like Arod, or the Yankees, in fact I don't even like baseball. I just think your arguements ripping on him are retarded.

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If he just feeds off bad pitchers, how come everyone in the league can't put up the same numbers?  Or are the Yankees opponents just putting up their worst players against him every chance they get?Oh wait, that doesn't happen.  He faces the same pitchers everyone else does.I don't even like Arod, or the Yankees, in fact I don't even like baseball.  I just think your arguements ripping on him are retarded.
It is simple. When A-Rod is facing bad pitchers, his natural talent shines through and thus he is better than most other hitters. However, hitting good pitchers in pressure situations is an entirely different thing, and in this department, players such as Oritz and Jeter are much better.
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If he just feeds off bad pitchers, how come everyone in the league can't put up the same numbers? Or are the Yankees opponents just putting up their worst players against him every chance they get?Oh wait, that doesn't happen. He faces the same pitchers everyone else does.I don't even like Arod, or the Yankees, in fact I don't even like baseball. I just think your arguements ripping on him are retarded.
You're wasting your time trying to have a discussion with KK. He is a moron! A-rod's numbers speak for themself. And his fielding % of .971 at 3b this season is just horrible. LOL! :club: KowboyKoop....go start a Rod Stewart/ass forum. At least you'll be able to contribute something remotely intelligent.
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If he just feeds off bad pitchers, how come everyone in the league can't put up the same numbers? Or are the Yankees opponents just putting up their worst players against him every chance they get?Oh wait, that doesn't happen. He faces the same pitchers everyone else does.I don't even like Arod, or the Yankees, in fact I don't even like baseball. I just think your arguements ripping on him are retarded.
You're wasting your time trying to have a discussion with KK. He is a moron! A-rod's numbers speak for themself. And his fielding % of .971 at 3b this season is just horrible. LOL! :club: KowboyKoop....go start a Rod Stewart/ass forum. At least you'll be able to contribute something remotely intelligent.
His fielding percentage is decent, but how about his Zone Rating, which is a pretty important stat. for 3B....OOPS, 2nd to last among regular 3B in the league. Sooo...that basically means that he can field the routine grounders just fine, but can't make that many "tough" players, compared to everyone else in the league. So, yeah, good job, the 20 million dollar man can field a routine ground ball. Congrats.
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His fielding percentage is decent, but how about his Zone Rating, which is a pretty important stat. for 3B....OOPS, 2nd to last among regular 3B in the league. Sooo...that basically means that he can field the routine grounders just fine, but can't make that many "tough" players, compared to everyone else in the league. So, yeah, good job, the 20 million dollar man can field a routine ground ball. Congrats.
Didn't he just start playing 3rd base? I seem to recall him being a shortstop before going to NY. And apparently fielding a ground ball is something Ortiz can't do, or maybe his fat ass could waddle out to 3rd base and show Arod how. It's not hard to be next to last in the league right? I bet Ortiz is just missing out on a collection of gold gloves.
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