why i am giving up poker

[PrtyPSux 0]

I quit too.bye.

[PrtyPSux 0]

I quit too.bye.

AHAHAH I WAS JUST KIDDING!! u didnt think I was really gonna quit did you?roflmao.... I got u suckers good.

[erac22 0]

actually i never tilt, i don't take it personally in that i get emotional about busting individuals. I take it personally in general that anyone would think they can take my money. I think you have to have that mindset in order to play. just my opinion

Some people are just there to have fun. They're not making it a personal vendetta against you. They might even consider you a better player. If these people get lucky and get your money do you take that as a personal insult? That happens alot you know. If they even talk smack after they beat you a pot, how do you react? I think its counterproductive to make poker an ego contest which is what you seem to make it. Its hard to make good decisions when you are out to prove that you are better than the next guy. Also approaching the game with this kind of intensity does not make people want to gamble w/ you which means they will avoid you. Being nice to the fish is +ev.

I really think you're missing my point. It's personal in the sense that you can't feel bad for someone after taking their money. They sat down thinking they could take yours. That's the only reason to sit at a poker table. The OP said he's quitting poker because the money he is winning is from people who have a problem. I can't feel bad, because that person's problem is that they though they take my money. And a lot of the time, they are wrong. Never is it about ego. It's more about staying focused.

[Swift_Psycho 1]

I quit too.bye.

AHAHAH I WAS JUST KIDDING!! u didnt think I was really gonna quit did you?roflmao.... I got u suckers good.

Oh goodness. I completely believed you and never once thought you weren't serious when you said you quit. My mind was racing and I was ready to cry in exasperation. But then you said you were kidding. Now I have calmed down. Whoo, what a trip.

[PrtyPSux 0]

I quit too.bye.

AHAHAH I WAS JUST KIDDING!! u didnt think I was really gonna quit did you?roflmao.... I got u suckers good.

Oh goodness. I completely believed you and never once thought you weren't serious when you said you quit. My mind was racing and I was ready to cry in exasperation. But then you said you were kidding. Now I have calmed down. Whoo, what a trip.

just make sure u dont tell anyone... I dont want to ruin the surprise.

[Swift_Psycho 1]

I quit too.bye.

AHAHAH I WAS JUST KIDDING!! u didnt think I was really gonna quit did you?roflmao.... I got u suckers good.

Oh goodness. I completely believed you and never once thought you weren't serious when you said you quit. My mind was racing and I was ready to cry in exasperation. But then you said you were kidding. Now I have calmed down. Whoo, what a trip.

just make sure u dont tell anyone... I dont want to ruin the surprise.

SHHH!! :shhh:

[PrtyPSux 0]

just make sure u dont tell anyone... I dont want to ruin the surprise.

dont even say, hey check out that "the reason Im quitting poker thread" and read what PrtyPsux wrote... that'll be to obvious, just let them read the whole thread, then my post will catch them by surprise!! HAHAHA! omg 6 tablinig 6 max is frying my fuccking brain

[pbwl11 0]

No one is forcing the bad players to sit at the tables. They have freewill; they can stay at home and watch TV, go to the movies or what have you. The fact that they choose to play poker, knowing that the majority of the time they are going to lose because they haven't refined their skills, and they just they to have a good time, socialize and kill time doesn't inspire me to be nice to them (In a taking their money kind of way.)The Saturday morning regulars at my B&M are, for the most part, really bad, loose, chasers who get their fair share of suckouts, but seldom leave when they're winning. All the lose playing comes back to haunt them, and they end up giving the chips back over the long term. They are all great guys, good friends and cool to hang out with, they're just bad players and I have no problem taking their money at the table.

[LuckyMcCatcher 0]

actually i never tilt, i don't take it personally in that i get emotional about busting individuals. I take it personally in general that anyone would think they can take my money. I think you have to have that mindset in order to play. just my opinion

Some people are just there to have fun. They're not making it a personal vendetta against you. They might even consider you a better player. If these people get lucky and get your money do you take that as a personal insult? That happens alot you know. If they even talk smack after they beat you a pot, how do you react? I think its counterproductive to make poker an ego contest which is what you seem to make it. Its hard to make good decisions when you are out to prove that you are better than the next guy. Also approaching the game with this kind of intensity does not make people want to gamble w/ you which means they will avoid you. Being nice to the fish is +ev.

I really think you're missing my point. It's personal in the sense that you can't feel bad for someone after taking their money. They sat down thinking they could take yours. That's the only reason to sit at a poker table. The OP said he's quitting poker because the money he is winning is from people who have a problem. I can't feel bad, because that person's problem is that they though they take my money. And a lot of the time, they are wrong. Never is it about ego. It's more about staying focused.

ok

[zimmer4141 0]

Well, someone complained about crappy analogies for this, so I have a good one. It's like saying you'll quit being a bartender because some people are alcoholics. I guess I take solice in the fact that if I don't take his money then someone else will. So I may as well take it. If everybody practiced perfect bankroll management, then most of us wouldn't make near as much off of poker. Hate to say it, but these people give us our profits, and that's the nature of the beast. Him losing money isn't my fault, it's his.

[stealfromblind 0]

"Life is nothing but a competition to be the criminal rather than thevictim" - Bertrand Russell

[bulldog999 0]

There is no fear in this dojo!I'll stop trying to take money off fishcakes as soon as McDonalds stops selling hamburgers and french fries to fat people.

[Guest]

Good Post. I think it is honorable of you to be that concerned for your fellow man. I do think you are taking too drastic an action( especially if you were making good money). Here is why. From what I have read, about 6% of those that gamble are problem gamblers. I personally think the number is a little higher than that but lets stick with that number. There is a much larger percentage that on occasion step on their penises and lose more than they could afford, including most poker players. You must realize that these are two completely different groups of people. 6% go broke. Most of the others learn. As in all walks of life it takes longer for some to learn than others. Also alot of the people you were taking money from were simply new and learning the game as we all had to take our lumps.( Remember the first time you got busted overplaying top pair when you ran into a set). Anyway, I guess I see myself as contributing to the decline of 6% of the population that were going to lose their money anyway( " a fool and his money are soon parted" ) and educating the other 94%. Just another perspective. Thanks for your post. On another subject the following will happen. Picture in the not too distant future Howard Lederer, Jesus Ferguson, Mike Sexton, and others sitting at a table facing 16 senators and trying to convince the senators that it was not internet poker that caused the suicide of an 17 year old boy. And convince them right after a weeping mother( who neglected her son for 17 years) swears that had it not been for the evil of internet poker her son would be alive today. Mark it down this will happen!!!

[finztotheleft 0]

an old proverb says: a fool and his money are soon departed. OP, your friend is the fool. I don't feel bad for someone like this at all, and I don't care about their problem. I have plenty of my own problems to worry about the idiot that is trying to hit his two outer against me. while this is a cautionary tale, do you think that those who need to hear it will take up the advice, no they won't, and that's why I make money and they censored and moan about the suckouts that happen to them

what the fuck proverb book are you reading? I believe it is parted.

I believe that's in Chapter 1 of Cliff Clavin's Book of Barstool Proverbs...

Screw learning about poker, this is why I read these forums !

[Spademan 94]

I had a friend that was a fucking psycho.He wanted to kill everyone's family...I came to realize there were a number of people like this in the world, you know, fucking psycho types, and that I should pity them. So I let them kill my mother, because locking them up would be wrong. So, I'm here to tell you that I no longer take any action against muderer types, it's not their fault.

Why is it that it seems like no one on the Internet has the ability to come up with a decent analogy? This one is idiotic.

Wow.Anyone mistaking this for a real attempt at analogy, rather than the exterme hyperbolic fallacy it was meant to be, is pretty dense.

[edub10304 0]

spadeu still alive

[teneight 1]

I finally decided; I cannot feel good about making a living (or even a pleasant side profit) from this sort of person. Although it is not ethically wrong (everyone knows the risks' date=' etc.)' date=' I have come to believe that the world would be better off if the strong would not prey on the weak in this particular arena. More often than not, the weak need some mercy.Poker is a great game, but it can be destructive. And I, for one, will no longer be a part of it.[/quote'']I have no problem taking the fish's money none what so ever.Mercy is for the weak we do not train to be merciful here.[/quote]Cobra Kai?

YES SENSEI!

GET HIM A BODY BAG YAAAAAAAAAAA.

You're the best around,Nothin's gonna ever bring you down!Oh, don't get me started...

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i added this site to my favorites. whenever I'm feeling down/depressed, i'm def. going to this site for some motivation I'M THE BEST AROUND, NOTHIN's GONNA EVER BRING ME DOWN!

[teneight 1]

There are plenty of people on FCP(no names....teneight!)who talk a good game.Spends all his time on here talking the talk but when we get to see him in action he gets crushed playing $10 HU sngs.I ask you...does this guy have a job or college...or does he claim to be a "pro player"multitabling"all day the truth is he's a loser long term.

I have a part time job and attend collegeSMBYKYP

[blueodum 0]

I'll stop trying to take money off fishcakes as soon as McDonalds stops selling hamburgers and french fries to fat people.This, I love. This should be the official FCP motto.

[Rokuban 0]

On another subject the following will happen.  Picture in the not too distant future Howard Lederer, Jesus Ferguson, Mike Sexton, and others sitting at a table facing 16 senators and trying to convince the senators that it was not internet poker that caused the suicide of an 17 year old boy.   And convince them right after a weeping mother( who neglected her son for 17 years)  swears that had it not been for the evil of internet poker her son would be alive today.    Mark it down this will happen!!!

And what ? The US senate will make online poker illegal ? Oh wait. It already is. You'll just have to play on European and Costa Rican sites then I guess...

[Timdog1010 0]

On another subject the following will happen.  Picture in the not too distant future Howard Lederer, Jesus Ferguson, Mike Sexton, and others sitting at a table facing 16 senators and trying to convince the senators that it was not internet poker that caused the suicide of an 17 year old boy.   And convince them right after a weeping mother( who neglected her son for 17 years)  swears that had it not been for the evil of internet poker her son would be alive today.    Mark it down this will happen!!!

And what ? The US senate will make online poker illegal ? Oh wait. It already is. You'll just have to play on European and Costa Rican sites then I guess...

That's just crazy enough to work!

[DarthBrunson 0]

why do people pigeonhole problem gamblers as losing players? the best problem gambler and he admits it is phil ivey. i saw his interview snippet for the wsop omaha tourney which he won by the way. he was saying he loves high stakes gambling. he is just happy he has found a game that he could beat. he said he has lost 400k to 500k in a session. he said if you worry about the money while you're playing instead of being in the moment and concentrating on the game, you're going to lose. that said phil ivey imo is the best player in the world. he has a gambling problem but he is the best student of the game. he's always learning and thinking about his game, playing with complete composure, control, and timely aggression. that's why he's a winning player.gambling is not a problem. stupidity is.

[CaneBrain 95]

why do people pigeonhole problem gamblers as losing players?  the best problem gambler and he admits it is phil ivey.  i saw his interview snippet for the wsop omaha tourney which he won by the way.  he was saying he loves high stakes gambling.  he is just happy he has found a game that he could beat.  he said he has lost 400k to 500k in a session.  he said if you worry about the money while you're playing instead of being in the moment and concentrating on the game, you're going to lose.  that said phil ivey imo is the best player in the world.  he has a gambling problem but he is the best student of the game.  he's always learning and thinking about his game, playing with complete composure, control, and timely aggression.  that's why he's a winning player.gambling is not a problem.  stupidity is.

Now THATS a first post. the last line could not be more true.

[ricker 0]

Look around on this site, the biggest sin committed by poker players today is horrible bankroll management. Your friend simply got a taste of the higher limits, prolly won a few pots, discovered the quick and easy way to make a grand in every pot he plays. But since he doesn't have the experience or bankroll to play 15/30 properly, he tilted off his entire bankroll. It's not your fault your friend has no bankroll management. Yes, there are people out there that have problems, and it's your responsibility as their friend to point it out to them. That's it. Do you really think for an instant that your friend or anyone else like him would hesitate for a second to take your entire bankroll in one session? Of course not. It's kill or be killed out there. 1) Learn how to manage your bankroll/money2) Learn how to play.It's that simple. Because it doesn't matter how good you are. I.E. Mike Matasow, he's a fantastic player, but he'll throw away a lot of his money at the craps table or sports betting. If you really want to do your friend a favor, don't stop playing, teach him how to not tilt and manage his bankroll. You'll find it's much more satisfying that way.

[711Buddha 0]

Compassion is a good trait to have. But don't let it interfere with your judgement.Losers are losers because they want to be. Its not up to you.