hold'em and existentialism - an essay to flame.

[rinswun 6]

'British existentialism extends only in a profound social context when playin no limit. Discuss''No Limit Hold'em is an undeniably complex, social game, where the opponents you play against often craft your actions more so than your cards. The locations, both offline and online, may change but you will always see essentially the same traits in players across the board, be they young or old, rich or poor, black or white. It can be applied very readily to the philosophy of existentialism, as it would seem to intertwine with many of the beliefs reflected in the philosophy.Firstly, Existentialists work from the school of thought that an individual's unique experiences will help them form an understanding of human nature, from which they can make free choices whilst accepting the consequences of those actions. Simply put (and in poker parlance), this equates to judging that the hand's of the old man you are head's up in a pot with, are shaking not because he has Parkinson's, or any other nervous disorder, but because he's holding a monster and thus you choose to lay down your flopped set!Getting more in depth, French philosopher Sartre who was hailed as one of the foremost thinkers on the subject of existentialism, offered the idea that 'there is no pre-defined essence to humanity except that which we make for ourselves', in his 1946 lecture 'Existentialism as a Humanism'. This is particular apt in the case of No Limit, where, similarly to chess, the more experienced combatant will usually be inventive, and occasionally, almost artistic with their actions and bet amount, depending on they way they wish to be perceived and the actions they hope to mould after their own. This is not an affection which can be extended to Limit Poker, where the actions are stymied, allowing for just four options: fold, call, bet or check.Whilst the social factors of age, race and wealth that i have already mentioned, bare little effect on the style of play adopted by an indivudual, they do have an affect on the selection of game an individual will make. This is particularly evident in the instance of wealth, as you would be unlikely to see an unemployed student or a young single mother buying directly into a $10,000 event. If they were to do so, how would they be perceived? Stupid for spending all their money in the hope of an unlikely return, or plainly regarded as just another player to bust? The morals of the game say the latter, the social conscience of the individual may well say the former. The anamoly in this issue is that of the existentialism being British. As poker players, especially with the event of internet poker, we must take on all comers, very few of whom will show a vastly different style of play and variation in thinking (with the possible exception of those crazy Scandinavians!). I think that the issue of nationality in poker is virtually redundant, and therefore the Britishness of this question can be ignored due to poker's globalistic parity. At the end of the day we are all just player's following Soren Kierkegaard's notion of 'one thing that I could live and die for', in this case No Limit Texas Hold'em. Now excuse me while a choose a game. Deal me in!'Any thoughts?

[dna4ever 2]

im not gonna lie, i dont know what "existentialism" is without looking it up so therefore I didnt read your post.edit - existentialism - A philosophy that emphasizes the uniqueness and isolation of the individual experience in a hostile or indifferent universe, regards human existence as unexplainable, and stresses freedom of choice and responsibility for the consequences of one's acts.

[WorkYou 0]

to many big works. i dont understand.

[econ_tim 0]

is this something you wrote for class?

[dimseven 0]

Next You can compare "existentialism" with the FCP board. Smasharoo can be Nietzche, You know, writing "There is no god" in a thread about human suffering, and all the horrible losers in the game of poker can be termed Doestevskian, who suck at the game, and complain on this board, and You can call it "Bad Beats from the Underground", and compare it to Doest because he wasn't meant for the societal life of his times, just like these donks arent meant for poker.

[Jelly-Filled Ace 2]

The MENSA Poker League Hot Topic of the Week.

[mrdannyg 274]

is this something you wrote for class?

you have just given me an excellent idea./

[Jeepster80125 0]

is this something you wrote for class?

you have just given me an excellent idea./

When you use it for yourself, just make sure to change mmould to mold and colour to color, etc etc. We all know that's what you were talking about. Next You can compare "existentialism" with the FCP board. Smasharoo can be Nietzche, You know, writing "There is no god" in a thread about human suffering, and all the horrible losers in the game of poker can be termed Doestevskian, who suck at the game, and complain on this board, and You can call it "Bad Beats from the Underground", and compare it to Doest because he wasn't meant for the societal life of his times, just like these donks arent meant for poker.Perfect. When can we talk about whether there is a cat in the box or not?J in Colo.

[Rokuban 0]

Perfect. When can we talk about whether there is a cat in the box or not?

There is a cat in the box. The question being, is it alive or dead ? And was it before you looked ?

[KowboyKoop 0]

OP.....you need to get laid

[Jeepster80125 0]

Perfect. When can we talk about whether there is a cat in the box or not?

There is a cat in the box. The question being, is it alive or dead ? And was it before you looked ?

I don't want to look if it's dead. Are there maggots yet? Or will it scratch me if I open the box? I've seen my cat when I put it in a box to go to the vet, and he gets pissed. I let the damn vet open the box. I think the cat realizes the doc is going to probe him and just gives up, because the cat never gives me that respect.But I digress. My question to you, good sir: Can we let the vet look in the box?J in Colo.

[dimseven 0]

Can we let the vet look in the box?

Whose life is more important? The cat's or the vet's?

[Jeepster80125 0]

I have a better question...What does George Bush think about Roe vs Wade?He doesn't give a shit how you get out of New Orleans.HA HA HAI hate cats. Gotta be the vet, to answer your question.J in Colo.

[GWCGWC 83]

I'm going to do my best to use the word "whilst" in conversation today.

[Rokuban 0]

But I digress. My question to you, good sir: Can we let the vet look in the box?J in Colo.

Only if the parrot is already dead.

[cdt002 0]

"George Bush does not care about black people."-Kanye West

[Jeepster80125 0]

"George Bush does not care about black people."-Kanye West

What is so sad about that is the amount of people who listen to him. The amount of "clout" minorities give celebrities is a jopke. It was also funny how he complained that blacks were described as looting and whites as finding. After an investigation by Associated Press, it was found that the photographer of the "blacks looting" picture saw the people break a window of a store, go inside, take things, and leave. That is looting. The photographer of the "white finding" picture said he saw the people picking up the items as they floated by them. That's finding.So sad.

[turd ferguson 1]

"George Bush does not care about black people."-Kanye West

What is so sad about that is the amount of people who listen to him. The amount of "clout" minorities give celebrities is a jopke. It was also funny how he complained that blacks were described as looting and whites as finding. After an investigation by Associated Press, it was found that the photographer of the "blacks looting" picture saw the people break a window of a store, go inside, take things, and leave. That is looting. The photographer of the "white finding" picture said he saw the people picking up the items as they floated by them. That's finding.So sad.

racist

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

"George Bush does not care about black people."-Kanye West

What is so sad about that is the amount of people who listen to him. The amount of "clout" minorities give celebrities is a jopke. It was also funny how he complained that blacks were described as looting and whites as finding. After an investigation by Associated Press, it was found that the photographer of the "blacks looting" picture saw the people break a window of a store, go inside, take things, and leave. That is looting. The photographer of the "white finding" picture said he saw the people picking up the items as they floated by them. That's finding.So sad.

People shouldn't listen to celebrities just because they are famous. But they should listen to them, if they are right."the amount of 'clout minorities give celebrities? I hope this is a joke. How many black people you think voted for Arnold? Jessie "the body" Ventura? I wish Smash wasn't on some hiatus right now so he could join me in piling on you here. Over wieghting what celebrities think and say is a symptom of our depressing modern times, it is a product of our media fame machine. But to say that it's an affliction of "minorities" is ignorant and raccist.And West was right, Bush doesn't give a damn about the plight of poor black people. Or poor white people, for that matter, though poor white people idiotically vote for him en masse. His social and economic policies throughly prove that. Bush cares about protecting the economic interests of the top 5% percent of the wealthy in this country. Period. How much of a percentage of that top five you think is black?

[speedz99 145]

"George Bush hates midgets"-Chris Rock

[Crack User 0]

george bush hates retards

[mrdannyg 274]

POLL QUESTION:who needs to get laid more, the OP, jeepster, or me for posting this?Daniel