cracked kings, with 2,3

[majorleag 0]

Well 2,3 suited is quickly becoming my new favorite hand!!  The moral of the story also is never slow play kings!

Can you please explain to me where this slowplay occured??? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the KK player raised pre-flop, then raised on the flop. Maybe my poker dictionary is different from yours, but that doesn't exactly read like a slowplay to me.If by slowplay you mean he didn't move all-in pre-flop (like that ridiculous strategy that has gained so much popularity here) I guess we just have different meanings for the same word.

You are correct, it is not technically slow playing.I really didn't make myself very clear. What I meant really is that I think you need to bet more than 3 times the bb which is pretty standard if you have a strong hand and want to make sure to get people with marginal or in my case ridiculous hands to stay in.How much is enough? I don't know, but I can tell you that had he bet say $150 or so I would have been gone.Yes maybe you blow everybody out and make next to nothing, but I would always rather take down a small pot, even if it is only the blinds then lose a large pot to someone playing bad hands.Last night I played against a guy who made what I think is a ridiculous raise from 30 to 60 early in the tourney. I had been doing very well and had a decent stack, playing with Zeejustin to my right in the PP $100k.Tried to play very well, and I had pocket kings, I make what is a ridiculously huge re-raise to $500.00, wanting to take the pot right there and or just isolate to the small raise guy.Flop comes with a queen, and nothing else to worry about and I go all in and lose to his rockets. The point to what I am saying is, that if I had had queens, or worse yet say pocket 8's his raise from 30 to 60 will not get me to go away, now if the flop has an 8, he is almost all but certain to lose the hand with his aces by being cute and only raising double the bb.Not my idea of a good way to play Aces, worked for him this time since I had the second best pair, but many times he would go broke playing aces like that.So back to the original hand, he didn't exactly slow play them, but in my opinion he did not bet enough!

[jcpoker 0]

seriously it is great noone sees the little slick coming..

Little slick is KQ suited, not 23 suited.

So what is A2?

A2 is sometimes called Hunting Season because aces are bullets and 2's are ducks. Not nearly the quality of the nickname as for the Q3 "San Fransico Busboy" because it is a Queen with a Tray!____________________________________________________________www.pokulator.com check the odds, raise your game

[majorleag 0]

seriously it is great noone sees the little slick coming..

Little slick is KQ suited, not 23 suited.

So what is A2?

A2 is sometimes called Hunting Season because aces are bullets and 2's are ducks. Not nearly the quality of the nickname as for the Q3 "San Fransico Busboy" because it is a Queen with a Tray!Very nice! :-) ____________________________________________________________www.pokulator.com check the odds, raise your game

[TheCinciKid 0]

Well 2,3 suited is quickly becoming my new favorite hand!! The moral of the story also is never slow play kings!

Can you please explain to me where this slowplay occured??? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the KK player raised pre-flop, then raised on the flop. Maybe my poker dictionary is different from yours, but that doesn't exactly read like a slowplay to me.If by slowplay you mean he didn't move all-in pre-flop (like that ridiculous strategy that has gained so much popularity here) I guess we just have different meanings for the same word.

You are correct, it is not technically slow playing.I really didn't make myself very clear. What I meant really is that I think you need to bet more than 3 times the bb which is pretty standard if you have a strong hand and want to make sure to get people with marginal or in my case ridiculous hands to stay in.How much is enough? I don't know, but I can tell you that had he bet say $150 or so I would have been gone.Yes maybe you blow everybody out and make next to nothing, but I would always rather take down a small pot, even if it is only the blinds then lose a large pot to someone playing bad hands.Last night I played against a guy who made what I think is a ridiculous raise from 30 to 60 early in the tourney. I had been doing very well and had a decent stack, playing with Zeejustin to my right in the PP $100k.Tried to play very well, and I had pocket kings, I make what is a ridiculously huge re-raise to $500.00, wanting to take the pot right there and or just isolate to the small raise guy.Flop comes with a queen, and nothing else to worry about and I go all in and lose to his rockets. The point to what I am saying is, that if I had had queens, or worse yet say pocket 8's his raise from 30 to 60 will not get me to go away, now if the flop has an 8, he is almost all but certain to lose the hand with his aces by being cute and only raising double the bb.Not my idea of a good way to play Aces, worked for him this time since I had the second best pair, but many times he would go broke playing aces like that.So back to the original hand, he didn't exactly slow play them, but in my opinion he did not bet enough!

I've learned from experience that a ridiculous number of online players play Aces in this absurd way. I generally try to be very carefull of min. raises. Of course, everyone who doesn't go broke with KK in that hand simply isn't playing good poker. Min. raises are probably a good time to see a cheap flop with a suited connector (the mathematically best AA cracking hand, or a weak pair for set value only). You've got huge implied odds and the donk will probably give you all his chips if you hit a hand better than one pair.

[HurricaneKyle 0]

Crazy hand last night in a 200 dollar SNG on Partypoker. UTG raises, fold around to button who reraises, big blind goes all in, UTG goes all in, button goes all in. UTG shows KK, button shows AJ, BB shows AJ. Flop K88. Turn A. River A. I'm not a math guy so I can't calculate the odds, but that is the craziest outdraw I have ever seen.

That might be the sickest draw out I've ever heard. WOW :shock:

[majorleag 0]

Well 2,3 suited is quickly becoming my new favorite hand!! The moral of the story also is never slow play kings!

Can you please explain to me where this slowplay occured??? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the KK player raised pre-flop, then raised on the flop. Maybe my poker dictionary is different from yours, but that doesn't exactly read like a slowplay to me.If by slowplay you mean he didn't move all-in pre-flop (like that ridiculous strategy that has gained so much popularity here) I guess we just have different meanings for the same word.

You are correct, it is not technically slow playing.I really didn't make myself very clear. What I meant really is that I think you need to bet more than 3 times the bb which is pretty standard if you have a strong hand and want to make sure to get people with marginal or in my case ridiculous hands to stay in.How much is enough? I don't know, but I can tell you that had he bet say $150 or so I would have been gone.Yes maybe you blow everybody out and make next to nothing, but I would always rather take down a small pot, even if it is only the blinds then lose a large pot to someone playing bad hands.Last night I played against a guy who made what I think is a ridiculous raise from 30 to 60 early in the tourney. I had been doing very well and had a decent stack, playing with Zeejustin to my right in the PP $100k.Tried to play very well, and I had pocket kings, I make what is a ridiculously huge re-raise to $500.00, wanting to take the pot right there and or just isolate to the small raise guy.Flop comes with a queen, and nothing else to worry about and I go all in and lose to his rockets. The point to what I am saying is, that if I had had queens, or worse yet say pocket 8's his raise from 30 to 60 will not get me to go away, now if the flop has an 8, he is almost all but certain to lose the hand with his aces by being cute and only raising double the bb.Not my idea of a good way to play Aces, worked for him this time since I had the second best pair, but many times he would go broke playing aces like that.So back to the original hand, he didn't exactly slow play them, but in my opinion he did not bet enough!

I've learned from experience that a ridiculous number of online players play Aces in this absurd way. I generally try to be very carefull of min. raises. Of course, everyone who doesn't go broke with KK in that hand simply isn't playing good poker. Min. raises are probably a good time to see a cheap flop with a suited connector (the mathematically best AA cracking hand, or a weak pair for set value only). You've got huge implied odds and the donk will probably give you all his chips if you hit a hand better than one pair.

Thanks Cinci, that was the point I was trying to make, about the kings originally.You have to play big hands strong or you get killed. His bet of 60 was very smelly, but tough to put him on Aces, since most good players won't play them that way.Funny thing is, that I did play at the table with him for awhile and he seemed to be a decent player, so I won't beat him like people do on this forum. I would not play aces the way he did, that does not necessarily make him a bad player.

[flyingmachine 0]

Ha, i just reread a bit and realized you weren't even in the SB completing with 23, you limped in from somewhere and then called his raise.

[BigPhish 0]

It's not just stars...I had KK vs. the same opponent's AA two hands in a row. On Party. :roll:

[dms26 3]

Ha, i just reread a bit and realized you weren't even in the SB completing with 23, you limped in from somewhere and then called his raise.

I could explain why his play could be perfectly fine in that hand, but I'm pretty sure you would disagree and start calling me a fish too.People who constantly use the term fish are usually...fish.

[fopkins 0]

Limping with 23 is -EV.-fop

[vginaman 0]

stop playing 2 3 suited to a raise.

Let me tell you, with my track record with that, anyone that doesn't want me to play it better make it very, very expensive pre-flop.Otherwise I am moving forward with it.See now 2 hands after this one I had 3, 4 suited and another guy was much smarter and bet around 240 pre-flop, that was enough to get me to let the hand go.

I really wonder what % of online players are under 18 years old like this gentleman? If this forum is any sort of indicator, it's shockingly high.

[Jadaki 0]

Not nearly the quality of the nickname as for the Q3 "San Fransico Busboy" because it is a Queen with a Tray!

I usually call it the gay waiter for simplicity.

[majorleag 0]

stop playing 2 3 suited to a raise.

Let me tell you, with my track record with that, anyone that doesn't want me to play it better make it very, very expensive pre-flop.Otherwise I am moving forward with it.See now 2 hands after this one I had 3, 4 suited and another guy was much smarter and bet around 240 pre-flop, that was enough to get me to let the hand go.

I really wonder what % of online players are under 18 years old like this gentleman? If this forum is any sort of indicator, it's shockingly high.

Are you curious as to whether or not I am under 18 or Hold Em is?

[dms26 3]

stop playing 2 3 suited to a raise.

Let me tell you, with my track record with that, anyone that doesn't want me to play it better make it very, very expensive pre-flop.Otherwise I am moving forward with it.See now 2 hands after this one I had 3, 4 suited and another guy was much smarter and bet around 240 pre-flop, that was enough to get me to let the hand go.

I really wonder what % of online players are under 18 years old like this gentleman? If this forum is any sort of indicator, it's shockingly high.

Good question, coming from a guy who decided his screenname should be vaginaman.

[majorleag 0]

Ha, i just reread a bit and realized you weren't even in the SB completing with 23, you limped in from somewhere and then called his raise.

I think we should all be taking advice, Poker or otherwise from someone who feels compelled to make fun of the mentally retarded.What is so messed up in your own life that, not only do you seem intent on continuing to come after me, which btw is fine, as I am amused by how petty you are, but your life is so shallow that you need to pick on mentally retarded people?Sir I truly do feel sorry for you, you should spend your time elsewhere and get the help you truly need.I have no clue what kind of a poker player you are, and I won't make the same foolish assumption that you are making, that you are a fish. I truly want to sit at the poker table with people like you who overestimate themselves and underestimate me.

[flyingmachine 0]

I think we should all be taking advice, Poker or otherwise from someone who feels compelled to make fun of the mentally retarded.

Jeez, I am sorry that I made fun of you before, didn't realize that.