DanielNegreanu 141 Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I looked over the contracts and am assuming that the following players will be available at my free agent draft. I need 8 players to fill out my roster and have $49 to spend. I'm hoping to get 4-6 of the following players and then filling in the next two spots with fringe players.F Alexei Zhamnov, BOS. F Alexei Yashin, NYI. F Alexander Mogilny, NJ. F Brett Hull, PHO. F Mark Recchi, PIT. F Joe Sakic, COL. F Jeremy Roeniick LA. F Luc Robitaille, LA. F Jaromir Jagr, NYR. F Petr Bondra, ATL. F Daymond Langkow, CAL. F Joe Nieuwendyk, FLA. F Mats Sundin, TOR. F Steve Yzerman, DET. F Brendan Shanahan, DET. F Keith Tkachuk, STL. F Teemu Selanne, ANA. F Sergei Federov, ANA.F Mike Modano, DAL. F Owen Nolan, FA. D Brian Leetch, BOS.D Chris Pronger, EDM.D Rob Blake, COL.D Roman Hamrlik, CAL.D Mathieu Scheider, DET.D Sandis Ozolinch, ANA.D Scott Neidermeyer, ANA.D Sergei Zubov, DAL. There is a reason they are listed in the following order, but that's a secret :-) Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I dont know if you asked or care, but I like you have spent HOURS researching for my pools already, SO..... some to avoid: Nolan-obivous Hull- will not get prime time ice time Leetch- like him, but groin pull could linger some id like: Yashin to rebound Modano to rebound/dangerous Langkow with Iginla could be hugeseems like a lot of old guys...where are the 24-28yr olds?good move trading away Saprykin! (not enough ice time to go around in Pheonix!!) Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 now that i get this is all thats available, and if I only had cap room for 4-6, i would say....Sundin or Jagr for sure, maybe bothYashin and/or Modano (they should be undervalued, coming off bad years). Id take Yashin.Langkow- not as big a name, but could top 70pts playing with Iggy, and his low profile might allow you $$$ for 6 playersLeetch, Pronger, Niedermayer- one of them should suffice if you have so many FWD optionsMogilny, Zhamnov, Sakic, Yzerman -id worry about injury. Might be worth a flyer.Niewendyk, Bondra, Shanahan, Selanne, Hull-father time might have caught up to one time locks for 60-80pts! I wouldnt invest much in them, but you neevr know.Tkachunk- unfortunately, in new NHL, being 25lbs overweight is not a good thing. though maybe an opportunity to get him at bargain prices? i dont like his chances to lose the weight do fast and play well early on. I see injury on the horizon.If it were me, Id push hard for Jagr, Sundin, Yashin, Leetch/Pronger/Niedthen fill in with Modano, Langkow or a second D man. I like Sundin and Jagr to go over 80pts, Yashin to be close, and Langkow and Modano to go over 70. and outside of Gonchar, those 3 D are probably the best. Link to post Share on other sites
DB10-2 0 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I looked over the contracts and am assuming that the following players will be available at my free agent draft. I need 8 players to fill out my roster and have $49 to spend. I'm hoping to get 4-6 of the following players and then filling in the next two spots with fringe players.F Alexei Zhamnov, BOS. F Alexei Yashin, NYI. F Alexander Mogilny, NJ. F Brett Hull, PHO. F Mark Recchi, PIT. F Joe Sakic, COL. F Jeremy Roeniick LA. F Luc Robitaille, LA. F Jaromir Jagr, NYR. F Petr Bondra, ATL. F Daymond Langkow, CAL. F Joe Nieuwendyk, FLA. F Mats Sundin, TOR. F Steve Yzerman, DET. F Brendan Shanahan, DET. F Keith Tkachuk, STL. F Teemu Selanne, ANA. F Sergei Federov, ANA.F Mike Modano, DAL. F Owen Nolan, FA. D Brian Leetch, BOS.D Chris Pronger, EDM.D Rob Blake, COL.D Roman Hamrlik, CAL.D Mathieu Scheider, DET.D Sandis Ozolinch, ANA.D Scott Neidermeyer, ANA.D Sergei Zubov, DAL. There is a reason they are listed in the following order, but that's a secret :-)random assorted thoughts:these guys are no-brainers if your goal is to win THIS YEAR--D: leetch, schneider, neidermayerF: recchi (worthwhile at almost any price given his supporting cast), fedorov, sakic, (dont overpay for these two)...zhamnov, hull, and even yzerman are squeaker picks. remember: given joe thornton and patrice bergeron will get most of the boston PP time at center, zhamnov really isn't much of a pick unless he's dirt cheap and you're hard up...ozolinch, i think, isn't much of a pick. the go-to dman for the ducks is going to be neidermayer now. also, roenick sustained a concussion tonight in a preseason game, so what was going to be a very nice pick is now a huge question mark. he would have been great on a PP unit with alex frolov.the question isn't just how good these guys are on their own. it's also their supporting cast. for example if mark recchi is going to play on pittsburgh's PP unit with palffy, lemeiux, gonchar, and maybe sidney crosby, his numbers will be obscenely high. this is also why modano, a good player in his own right but with a marginal cast, might be kind of a crappy pick.i'd grab bondra and langkow, also. bondra should get quality minutes on a young, talented atlanta team. he'd be a much better pick if we knew whether atlanta had kovalchuk locked up. last i heard he's staying in russia... Link to post Share on other sites
DanielNegreanu 141 Posted September 26, 2005 Author Share Posted September 26, 2005 I have a guy who writes for The Hockey News helping me out with my pool and he feels differently about Hull. He believes Hull will get lots of good opportunities in Phoenix and do quite well. Also, the official FA list has been released and a couple guys I was banking on are not available as they were re-signed:RecchiProngerNeidermeyerLangkow Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I have a guy who writes for The Hockey News helping me out with my pool and he feels differently about Hull. He believes Hull will get lots of good opportunities in Phoenix and do quite well. Also, the official FA list has been released and a couple guys I was banking on are not available as they were re-signed:RecchiProngerNeidermeyerLangkowHull will do just fine. His ability to find open space and the increase in powerplay opportunities will give him plenty of chances to score; and he's pretty good at that. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Heads up on Roenick, Daniel. He apparently just suffered another concussion. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Hull's done, IMO. He might get 20 goals and 45 points this year, but so will a lot of guys who are undoubtedly cheaper options... Link to post Share on other sites
DB10-2 0 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I have a guy who writes for The Hockey News helping me out with my pool and he feels differently about Hull. He believes Hull will get lots of good opportunities in Phoenix and do quite well. Also, the official FA list has been released and a couple guys I was banking on are not available as they were re-signed:RecchiProngerNeidermeyerLangkowi agree, hull will as always put up decent numbers. again, however, i think the detroit team of 2002 is/was much better than the phoenix team of 2005 and you have to look at who the player is on a line with. doan and hull together on the PP might be OK. aside from that, oleg saprykin and mike comrie? ok, but not great.also, how do hull and gretzky get along? will gretz punish hull with less playing time if he runs his mouth, cannot perform, etc? hull is prone to comical yet sometimes stupid off-ice outbursts and was known to slump in detroit.if hull gets lots of PP time--and there is no reason to think he won't--his numbers won't be horrible.it's kind of a bummer about the guys that aren't available. as i look down the rest of that list of forwards, i honestly keep thinking, "wow, if only DN could have signed him 5 years ago!" it's like a who's who of has-beens or marginal picks and makes for a very difficult selection.i'd look at toronto's depth at center. sundin, if he gets most of the playing time, will be a good pick. i know they have jason allison now, who was once a great player. also, how is the supporting cast in toronto? owen nolan's chances of staying healthy for an entire season are not good, i think. which other great forwards might play on sundin's line?[/i] Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I have a guy who writes for The Hockey News helping me out with my pool and he feels differently about Hull. He believes Hull will get lots of good opportunities in Phoenix and do quite well. Also, the official FA list has been released and a couple guys I was banking on are not available as they were re-signed:RecchiProngerNeidermeyerLangkowi agree, hull will as always put up decent numbers. again, however, i think the detroit team of 2002 is/was much better than the phoenix team of 2005 and you have to look at who the player is on a line with. doan and hull together on the PP might be OK. aside from that, oleg saprykin and mike comrie? ok, but not great.also, how do hull and gretzky get along? will gretz punish hull with less playing time if he runs his mouth, cannot perform, etc? hull is prone to comical yet sometimes stupid off-ice outbursts and was known to slump in detroit.if hull gets lots of PP time--and there is no reason to think he won't--his numbers won't be horrible.it's kind of a bummer about the guys that aren't available. as i look down the rest of that list, i honestly keep thinking, "wow, if only DN could have signed him 5 years ago!" it's like a who's who of has-beens and makes for a very difficult selection.i'd look at toronto's depth at center. sundin, if he gets most of the playing time, will be a good pick. i know they have jason allison now, who was once a great player. also, how is the supporting cast in toronto? owen nolan's chances of staying healthy for an entire season are not good, i think. which other great forwards might play on sundin's line?[/i]You seem to have forgotten about Nagy!And Hull and Gretzky are very good friends. I'm sure Hull will want to perform so as not to force Gretzky to make a difficult decision. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafs 142 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 Daniel, I took a look at your AHL website, and maybe I missed it, but I couldn't find Brandon Bochenski on any team. He's playing on a line with Dany Heatley and Jason Spezza in Ottawa and has 8 points in 3 pre season games. Definetely worth a look if he's available. Maybe I just missed him. Link to post Share on other sites
DB10-2 0 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 i read this site daily for updates on NHL players. it's very helpful.http://www.rotoworld.com/content/home_nhl....l.asp?sport=NHLthey're talking oleg saprykin up today a bit and say roenick's concussion won't be a big deal. Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewBlack 0 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 I would look at getting rid of Tkachuk. I'm a Blues fan, and always have liked Tkachuk. But I've heard on local radio shows, he was up too 300+ pounds during the off season, and he still weighs 270ish I think (normally weighs 230. I really don't think this will be good for him with the new nhl rules. Tkachuk could never fly, and now he has rocks in his pants. Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewBlack 0 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 GAH, I reread your post. Well just don't sign him. Link to post Share on other sites
Kebie 0 Posted September 26, 2005 Share Posted September 26, 2005 If goals count for 1 point and assists for only 1/2 a point then you should just go after goal scorers, and Brett Hull is a consistent goal scorer. I don't know how much he costs, but if he is cheap get him.Since it doesn't seem from the pool rules that +/- and other stats matter, I would stay away from more expensive assist getters or hard working captains. Link to post Share on other sites
Squamch 0 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 I'd be very careful of Brett Hull for a number of reasons. Obviously, his age. But also, he quit on Detroit down the stretch last season. And although his 68 points were impressive, especially at his age, don't forget that he was on one of the hottest lines in hockey and Pavel Datsyuk giftwrapped a lot of his goals, as well as many of his assists. Mark Recchi is an interesting option. Everyone playing in Pittsburgh is an interesting pick, because there are so many line combinations that look dangerous. Even at 37, Recchi should have a really big year playing on powerplays with Lemieux and/or Palffy, arguably the most dangerous playmaker and sniper in the league.Robitaille is a dangerous choice because of the speed he lacks. It's true that the first month or two of the season will have tons of pp time, which is where Luc thrives, but in the new speed/skill oriented NHL, he might start resembling Dave Andreychuk. There are probably more productive guys.I love Stevie Yzerman, and if he stays healthy, don't be surprised if he scores 50 points. Mike Babcock swears Brendan Shanahan's going to be a major offensive force this year. And as much as I hate Jaromir Jagr (and I really hate him) I wouldn't be at all surprised if he won the scoring race.I think the safest pick is Daymond Langkow. He's going to be the most skilled player Jarome Iginla's had around since coming into his prime. The two could be a major force. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Daniel, I took a look at your AHL website, and maybe I missed it, but I couldn't find Brandon Bochenski on any team. He's playing on a line with Dany Heatley and Jason Spezza in Ottawa and has 8 points in 3 pre season games. Definetely worth a look if he's available. Maybe I just missed him.Jeff Carter (C, RW - Philly) doesn't appear to exist in AHL-world either, he's on the Forsberg/Gagne line and had 12 goals in 21 games on the way to the (real) AHL title last year with the Phantoms. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafs 142 Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Jeff Carter (C, RW - Philly) doesn't appear to exist in AHL-world either I remember seeing him on a team. I'll post it as soon as I find it. He's gonna be a BEAST though, eh?EDIT: He's on Screamin' Eagles Link to post Share on other sites
Catamo 0 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I was going to comment in your other post that Zhamnov for 6 million is the an amazing deal. But seeing you list it at the top has me believe its because its your most tempting choice?But yes, if you can get Zhamnov for 6 mill.. Your getting yourself a great deal. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I looked over the contracts and am assuming that the following players will be available at my free agent draft. I need 8 players to fill out my roster and have $49 to spend. I'm hoping to get 4-6 of the following players and then filling in the next two spots with fringe players.F Alexei Zhamnov, BOS. F Alexei Yashin, NYI. F Alexander Mogilny, NJ. F Brett Hull, PHO. F Mark Recchi, PIT. F Joe Sakic, COL. F Jeremy Roeniick LA. F Luc Robitaille, LA. F Jaromir Jagr, NYR. F Petr Bondra, ATL. F Daymond Langkow, CAL. F Joe Nieuwendyk, FLA. F Mats Sundin, TOR. F Steve Yzerman, DET. F Brendan Shanahan, DET. F Keith Tkachuk, STL. F Teemu Selanne, ANA. F Sergei Federov, ANA.F Mike Modano, DAL. F Owen Nolan, FA. D Brian Leetch, BOS.D Chris Pronger, EDM.D Rob Blake, COL.D Roman Hamrlik, CAL.D Mathieu Scheider, DET.D Sandis Ozolinch, ANA.D Scott Neidermeyer, ANA.D Sergei Zubov, DAL. There is a reason they are listed in the following order, but that's a secret :-)Order is determined by number of games available from most (Boston) to least (Dallas)! :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I would imagine DN would have liked that information kept under wraps until *after* the draft...His opponents probably come here a lot, I've seen links for the site on the AHL site. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I would imagine DN would have liked that information kept under wraps until *after* the draft...His opponents probably come here a lot, I've seen links for the site on the AHL site.I'm fairly certain any of his oppenents that are worth worrying about already know this.***What is Catamo talking about regarding Zhamnov and $6 million?*** Link to post Share on other sites
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