"solid" poker changed my life

[jayistheman 0]

after all of this talk about "solid" poker, i decided to give it a try.... well, let me tell you... it was an amazing experience to say the least. i made 300 bucks in a few hours on NL 50 tables...... all from "liquid" players of course. side note for all of the people who think online is rigged.....IT IS!!!3 times i flopped top 2 pair, i paid off a set.....and i still finished up 300. no place that isnt rigged would allow that. as long as you "play solid".haha... just bored i guess...true story tho :wink:

[Mattnxtc 0]

What exactly is this "solid" poker? and yeah people can say what the want...but if the site doesnt want you to win u dont win... Just yesterday I lost a good 10 times to people with 3 outs or less...

[justblaze 0]

a) why on earth would the site care if you win or not? B) for a detailed explanation of solid poker, http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...2828&highlight=

[jayistheman 0]

What exactly is this "solid" poker? and yeah people can say what the want...but if the site doesnt want you to win u dont win... Just yesterday I lost a good 10 times to people with 3 outs or less...

this thread is mainly for humor effect.....and as far as the site not liking you issue.... that was all for humor effect...and it is complete bs that sites control your performance at all.... i was stating that your good hands can lose repeatedly... but it doesnt matter, because a good strategy will prevail anyway.a guy a few days ago attributed good winning sessions to "solid" poker, and we wondered the same as you..."what exactly is solid poker" apparently a winning session is all due to "solid poker" from what i gather

[justblaze 0]

solid poker is an essential skill for any aspiring player. You will never realize great profits until you have mastered the art of solid poker. I can send you my books, Solid Poker: revised edition and Gaseous Poker: The Next Frontier for a one time low price of 29.99![/b]

[MrConceit 0]

What exactly is this "solid" poker? and yeah people can say what the want...but if the site doesnt want you to win u dont win... Just yesterday I lost a good 10 times to people with 3 outs or less...

I just had the swingiest most annoying day ever yesterday. I always play through my downswings unless I'm affected mentally and it was a doozy. And _I_ don't think the online sites are rigged after yesterday...Check this out.I play 15/30, anywhere from 2-4 tables depending on how good the LAG tables are at the moment and my mood.So I have 3 hours of straight hell, I lose to every improbable stupid draw, and all my monster draws miss. Long story short, within 5 hours of playing 3-4 tables simul I'm down literally 3.6k. That's what? 120BB? So I grind and grind and go at it, and I work my way back to being only -1800 or so. Then I (and these happened on 2 tables within 2 mins of each other) get QQ cracked by a river 2 outer for large pots. Vs TT and JJ respectively. Both on the river. Both by people who passively called postflop on. So those 2 and 2 other hands set me back 800 at least, I battle some more and finally finish exhausted after 12 hours of play and approx 24.75 table hours for about 1667 hands. Oh and about -1600. While I hate to finish that far down I felt I accomplished a lot to come back from that crap.It was just one of those days when all the LAGs and chasers hit continually against you. And I still don't think the online sites are rigged. As somebody else pointed out, there is no point for them to be. The online sites make money HAND OVER FIST. They want everything to run smoothly.MrConceit

[AceOfSpaiDs 0]

online poker isn't rigged....you see the same bad beats in live games than you do online, but think about it this way....online you play about 3x as many hands per hour as you would in a live game, so more bad beats are likely to occur, and I agree, the sites are profiting no matter what, so why would they pick people out to win/lose

[wannabe 0]

Online poker is not rigged and it never will be. It just doesn't make any sense, the people who believe this are the bad players who play way under their bankroll, and can't believe they just lost 300$ playing 2/4 in a matter of 4 hours. Well, part of the reason is you probably went on tilt after the first bad beat, and then the second one just threw you completely off your game. And then maybe you decided to start playing the hands that these "Fish" beat you with, and are amazed that these hands do not win for you, or you flop your 2 pair of 2's and 4's, only to get beat by a set of 9's. And then you think the site is out to get you only b/c you have had a losing session, which you made even worse. And the people who say there are more pocket pairs against each other in online poker, how about the time I saw AA, KK, QQ, TT, 88, and 55 all get dealt playing and 8 handed live game. Everyone folded but the AA and KK, and the 88 would have been the winner.

[THE ACE IS BACK 0]

Online poker is NOT rigged.. However, it's my belief that the random generation of cards is bulls**t.. The boards on online poker are way to coordinated, as well as to many high staights appear. I feel that these online poker sites give the same cards to everyone, but without a doubt produce boards that create a lot of action.. You wonder why fish chase because the cards that come up "ask" for action/chasing to an unskilled player. Obviously odds and percenatges will win out in the end.. Good players play the odds and will win eventually. Live casino action in my experience does not produce the type of boards that online play produces on a consistent bases.

[JistTheFist 0]

oh my gosh.... you ever heard of beating a joke to death? I mean seriously dude... at least when justblaze and sullyarmy did it they were creative eenough to come up with something funny. something that made people laugh... at least they didn't feel the need to recycle a dead joke to try and get some laughs. you could have at least post it in one of their FUNNY threads so you didn't have to create another one thats gonna get about 7 replies and then die off. it's ridiculous. obviously you're not playing solid enough though... cuz I made another $800 last night... obviously I play WAAAAY more solidly than you do. hahahaha

[Sullyarmy 0]

WOW WOW WOW...im sorry guys but am i the only person here that has noticed a terrible trend?the topic was what i like to call the "Lokness Monster of the poker world" ...SOLID POKERnow DISCUSS and not another word about online sites being rigged and shit...but i do think they are and here is why...well think about it most of the people that work at online places are a minority and well most of the people that play online are the majority so online sites is the minoritys way of getting back at what i like to call "the man" ...just an ideaNOW TALK ABOUT SOLID POKER!!!*** that comment about online sites being rigged and everything is in no way meant to be racist and sexiest because we know the "man" prolly actually has control of the poker sites so it was just a joke within a joke HAHAHA ***we will over come

[halis 0]

I agree the sites are not rigged, that is just poker. You're playing faster than normal, with faster, looser, more aggressive opponents. If losing with two-pair to a hidden set is more than you can handle, please come play at my table.Also, as far as the hands being not randomly generated, pure wash. Speaking from a programming background, to get simple random numbers, takes about a second. To get true randomness takes functions that work a little more sophisticated, but not really any effort these days.What you are probably experiencing is the effects of "true" randomness. In online poker, it is actually more random than in a casino. The randomness in a live deck is limited by the nature of the shuffle. The randomness in online poker is generated by computers, and the numbers are seeded to have no conceivable pattern whatsoever.Halis-Play. And b*tch. But don't b*tch about how you play.

[jayistheman 0]

oh my gosh.... you ever heard of beating a joke to death? I mean seriously dude... at least when justblaze and sullyarmy did it they were creative eenough to come up with something funny. something that made people laugh... at least they didn't feel the need to recycle a dead joke to try and get some laughs. you could have at least post it in one of their FUNNY threads so you didn't have to create another one thats gonna get about 7 replies and then die off. it's ridiculous. obviously you're not playing solid enough though... cuz I made another $800 last night... obviously I play WAAAAY more solidly than you do. hahahaha

i was bored... i dont post here to entertain others... you all are just names on the computer screen to me and i will never meet any of you... its entertainment.... so i had fun..and by the way. ill keep making my $300 a night within my bankroll.... you keep playing "solid" and playing above your bankroll (does that contradict??) and we will see who is eating out of a dumpster sooner.

[jayistheman 0]

Online poker is NOT rigged.. However, it's my belief that the random generation of cards is bulls**t.. The boards on online poker are way to coordinated, as well as to many high staights appear. I feel that these online poker sites give the same cards to everyone, but without a doubt produce boards that create a lot of action.. You wonder why fish chase because the cards that come up "ask" for action/chasing to an unskilled player. Obviously odds and percenatges will win out in the end.. Good players play the odds and will win eventually. Live casino action in my experience does not produce the type of boards that online play produces on a consistent bases.

live casino action sees about 30% of the hands that you see on ONE online table.... proportionally, the results are the same.....for every one action hand in a casino, you would see many more.... but for every dead actionless pot in the casino, you will see proportionally the same. the one exception is in the anonymity that comes along with online play... people never have to fess up to their stupid plays in person, and they dont have to be punched in the teeth for purposely drawing to 2 outers.... so they draw away. btw... the sky is falling.

[Wilderness 0]

btw... the sky is falling.

:shock:

[THE ACE IS BACK 0]

"The sky is falling". So is your girl friends pants if I enter the room.. That aside back to poker. Listen I play a ton of online poker, The first statement I made in my post is that: "Online poker is NOT rigged", but to say the boards aren't action heavy would be wrong. Certainly the 20 cards (in a full ring game) dealt out to the players is random. Even more so, the online sites do NOT pick players they want to win and lose (as suggested in other posts). You win and lose mostly by your skill level and obviously some luck; however, the flops, turns, and rivers in online poker are way more coordinated then in a live game. Hence promoting more action.. Come on.. Online you will see....... A,K,Q,J or K,Q,J,10, or D,S,D,D,D or 6,7,A,9,10 way more then the percenatge difference your claiming between online and live. I love online play.. Sit back, relax, wait for premium hands. It's beautiful.. Again the sites are not rigged. But you don't think it's to the sites bennifts to draw new players, if they create action packed boards and therefore larger pots. Create more oppourtunities for straights/flushes or potential Staights and flushes even if they don't hit. Certainly the players chose the hands they want to participate in, based on the two pocket cards. Obviously this should be based on playing premium hands. Lastly, and as a bit of a side note did any one notice last week on PARTY POKER the series of cards that always came out the same way.. It was over a two day period.. It went Diamond, Diamond, Spade (flop), and if the turn came out a spade (D,D,S,S) the river was always a diamond.. I saw this happen every time over 10 in total on those two days last week. Then I never saw the same pattern for a week (D,D,S,S,D) Until yesterday and it went D,D,S,S, and i said here come's the Diamond and a spade came.. Has anyone else ever seen obvious patterns like this occur.. Is it a programming fault. Did party poker take this pattern off and fix it. Or was it possible I just saw D,D,S,S,D 10+ times over two days (4 hours) by fluke?

[brad44 0]

ExampleLive game bad beats, last week I was in a tourny and sat at a table where k k vs k k reds get beat by a flush 10-15 hands/30-40 mins later aces full beat by quad dueces. My point is in online play people would be screaming RIG RIG because those hands would have happened 5-10 mins apart instead of 40. Online poker is not rigged.

[Deebo 0]

Online poker is NOT rigged.. However, it's my belief that the random generation of cards is bulls**t.. The boards on online poker are way to coordinated, as well as to many high staights appear. I feel that these online poker sites give the same cards to everyone, but without a doubt produce boards that create a lot of action.. You wonder why fish chase because the cards that come up "ask" for action/chasing to an unskilled player. Obviously odds and percenatges will win out in the end.. Good players play the odds and will win eventually. Live casino action in my experience does not produce the type of boards that online play produces on a consistent bases.

Absolutely. Amen. Period.

[jayistheman 0]

"The sky is falling". So is your girl friends pants if I enter the room.. That aside back to poker. Listen I play a ton of online poker, The first statement I made in my post is that: "Online poker is NOT rigged", but to say the boards aren't action heavy would be wrong. Certainly the 20 cards (in a full ring game) dealt out to the players is random. Even more so, the online sites do NOT pick players they want to win and lose (as suggested in other posts). You win and lose mostly by your skill level and obviously some luck; however, the flops, turns, and rivers in online poker are way more coordinated then in a live game. Hence promoting more action.. Come on.. Online you will see....... A,K,Q,J or K,Q,J,10, or D,S,D,D,D or 6,7,A,9,10 way more then the percenatge difference your claiming between online and live. I love online play.. Sit back, relax, wait for premium hands. It's beautiful.. Again the sites are not rigged. But you don't think it's to the sites bennifts to draw new players, if they create action packed boards and therefore larger pots. Create more oppourtunities for straights/flushes or potential Staights and flushes even if they don't hit. Certainly the players chose the hands they want to participate in, based on the two pocket cards. Obviously this should be based on playing premium hands. Lastly, and as a bit of a side note did any one notice last week on PARTY POKER the series of cards that always came out the same way.. It was over a two day period.. It went Diamond, Diamond, Spade (flop), and if the turn came out a spade (D,D,S,S) the river was always a diamond.. I saw this happen every time over 10 in total on those two days last week. Then I never saw the same pattern for a week (D,D,S,S,D) Until yesterday and it went D,D,S,S, and i said here come's the Diamond and a spade came.. Has anyone else ever seen obvious patterns like this occur.. Is it a programming fault. Did party poker take this pattern off and fix it. Or was it possible I just saw D,D,S,S,D 10+ times over two days (4 hours) by fluke?

first of all, the girlfriend thing is completely unnecessary... 2 wrongs dont make a right, so let it go man.... your girl couldnt get enough...second of all, if the flops come out in a predetermined manner "to promote action" then wouldnt that mean its rigged??? if not then wtf does rigged mean? you obviously have minimal intelligence, so im not gonna go too far into this.....but the cards are random, no matter what. as i stated before.... proportionally, there are just as many coordinated boards in live games....period. thats just how it is. i got an idea for ya there, tough guy. take a deck of cards, place your balls firmly in your left hand (im sure they are already there) and deal out a thousand hands.... i guarantee that there will be no difference in "action stimulation" than there is online............... thats just how it is. still falling

[justblaze 0]

It is not rigged, but Party Poker can read your brainwaves. Unless, of course, you construct a tin foil hat. this will block the radiowaves. It cant be aluminum foil either. only tin will do. sounds stupid, doesnt it? so does your post. difference is, mine was sarcastic. you actually believed yours.

[Jensen 0]

Well said.

[jayistheman 0]

It is not rigged, but Party Poker can read your brainwaves. Unless, of course, you construct a tin foil hat. this will block the radiowaves. It cant be aluminum foil either. only tin will do.  sounds stupid, doesnt it? so does your post. difference is, mine was sarcastic. you actually believed yours.

u talking to me??? i dont think its rigged obviously... i was sarcastic in the original post.... im arguing that its not... now the ace claims its not rigged, but the boards are geared for action... i was pointing out that that would insinuate that its rigged, so how can he say its not.... i dont know who you are addressing this to, but if its me then u gotta learn how to read.... or maybe i gotta learn how to write.... hmm

[jayistheman 0]

What exactly is this "solid" poker? and yeah people can say what the want...but if the site doesnt want you to win u dont win... Just yesterday I lost a good 10 times to people with 3 outs or less...

this thread is mainly for humor effect.....and as far as the site not liking you issue.... that was all for humor effect...and it is complete bs that sites control your performance at all.... i was stating that your good hands can lose repeatedly... but it doesnt matter, because a good strategy will prevail anyway.a guy a few days ago attributed good winning sessions to "solid" poker, and we wondered the same as you..."what exactly is solid poker" apparently a winning session is all due to "solid poker" from what i gather

just to add this.... as i stated earlier in the thread... guess im an acceptable writer after all

[justblaze 0]

It is not rigged, but Party Poker can read your brainwaves. Unless, of course, you construct a tin foil hat. this will block the radiowaves. It cant be aluminum foil either. only tin will do.  sounds stupid, doesnt it? so does your post. difference is, mine was sarcastic. you actually believed yours.

u talking to me??? i dont think its rigged obviously... i was sarcastic in the original post.... im arguing that its not... now the ace claims its not rigged, but the boards are geared for action... i was pointing out that that would insinuate that its rigged, so how can he say its not.... i dont know who you are addressing this to, but if its me then u gotta learn how to read.... or maybe i gotta learn how to write.... hmm

obviously i was talking to Ace, re: his theory of spades and diamonds hitting the board in sequence. i think its you who needs to learn to read

[jayistheman 0]

ok... i was pretty sure. i was aware of the fact that my writing was semi confusing, so i just didnt wanna give the wrong impression...... i tend to do that... i also figured you would have gotten to his post earlier.