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I never said dealers cheat.  So don't YOU put words in my mouth. If you knw anything about the game, it is nearly impossible for dealers to cheat. and no one in their right mind would risk getting blacklisted. REREAD what i said.  Good tips = good experienced dealers running your games, No tips = exactly the opposite.  You must not play enough live poker to know the difference.  Especially if you think dealers will cheat the players.  If that issue doesn't matter to you,  then fine.I never said "I" didn't tip or agree with your concept.  You don't read, you just react, slow your roll bro, take a breath.  You did however say that the dealer just might make a "mistake" when I have a premium hand.As for you point about Hachem taking down 9 mil if the staff took 1% less...way to do the math!!! Get yourself a cookie for that.   You fail to see that the Rio spent tons of money on a expanded convention center, hired the staff, supplied all the chips and tables, and ran the event fairly smoothly for six weeks and took a 6% cut for all their work.  But you could care less about that.   You only see the players side.  Just like Royal Tour out there, and everyone else who thinks just because the dealt their home game they could be a dealer, and Harrah's and the staff are robbing them.   People should actually attempt to do the job themselves before they judge it.Wow, I can't spend all day correcting you so this will be the last one, they didn't take a 6% cut for all their work.  They took 4% and 2% went right into the pockets of 758 hard working individuals, dude if you want to keep doing this, take some time to read everything 2 or 3 times, then, write your response, and then have your mom double check your work before you turn it in.Ummm,  I didn't say 9mil  idiot,  I said  $9.  nine dollars,  and I didn't say if the staff  "took" 1% less I said if the staff took 1% "more" for 3% total instead of 2, geez bro I was actually on your side on this one, but you f'd it up, READ you d.umb.azz, geezuz it's not that you don't read apparently it's that you "can't" Read!   And they should have spent some money on some freaking BATHROOMS!!!If not for Harrah's and the staff, there wouldn't be a WSOP to compete in to begin with.  So show a little gratitude for them putting on the best event in the Poker World.This year I played in 9 events as well as the main event, and trust me it was far from "the best event in the Poker World".  Frankly speaking the WPT events have been head and shoulders above the WSOP events.  I enjoyed the WSOP pre '03 the best, Binions rocks.  But as you mentioned I don't play live Poker apparently, so, What do I know.I just got back from the Harrah's circuit event, and all I can say about that is.... I wish I went to Borgata, a WPT event instead, so Tomorrow I will leave for Atlantic City.  I hope my lack of experience at the "Live games" doesn't hurt me there!
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I hate that name.  No offense.   :D  :D  Mine is Austin Oehlerking though, go ahead and make fun.
hahahahhah lol lol lol lmao :-) :club::D:) oh sorry, loldon't feel bad dude, my name is Adrian Adamslet the Rocky jokes and the Addams Family finger clicking commence.
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Great "article".  Can I have my 2 1/2 minutes back?
why?/ you're just going to waste them. be honest, you have nothing important going on in your life. You suck. Plain and simple, you suck at life.
Oh oh. Looks like I've angered FCP's two biggest nerds. God forbid. Surprised I could pull you away from licking on the balls of Daniel Negreanu for long enough to read my post. BTW, "you have nothing going on in your life". OK. Anyone who has the time to make 3,000 posts on a message board should really be talking.
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Great "article". Can I have my 2 1/2 minutes back?
why?/ you're just going to waste them. be honest, you have nothing important going on in your life. You suck. Plain and simple, you suck at life.
Oh oh. Looks like I've angered FCP's two biggest nerds. God forbid. Surprised I could pull you away from licking on the balls of Daniel Negreanu for long enough to read my post. BTW, "you have nothing going on in your life". OK. Anyone who has the time to make 3,000 posts on a message board should really be talking.
HmmI'm beginning to question whether you're actually a lawyer in San Francisco. Because, to be quite honest, you sound like you are 15 years old.
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Great "article". Can I have my 2 1/2 minutes back?
why?/ you're just going to waste them. be honest, you have nothing important going on in your life. You suck. Plain and simple, you suck at life.
Oh oh. Looks like I've angered FCP's two biggest nerds. God forbid. Surprised I could pull you away from licking on the balls of Daniel Negreanu for long enough to read my post. BTW, "you have nothing going on in your life". OK. Anyone who has the time to make 3,000 posts on a message board should really be talking.
Are you jealous that i spent 3 days 3 nights at the Wynn casino hangin out with Daniel, and david williams, jen harmon, evelyn ng, went to E-dawgs pad, VIP at clubs?. sorry just wasnt sure what you meant.And you obviously havent been here long enough, I'm far from the biggest nerd, I'd love to be, but i think suited_up takes that one. lol.oh ya, and last, my 3000 posts. If you look at them, you will see that 98% of the 3k posts are during business hours, because i post while at work, getting paid great money to talk poker.How does that make you feel?.. you are a student, hows those micro limits?. are u strapped for cash?. sucks to be you eh?baaaahahahah :club::D
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LOL... just thought i'd back my post up with this ahrustadPoker Forum NutView user's profile Send private messageJoined: 30 Jul 2005Posts: 61Location: Bay Area, CA Sat, Aug 13th, 2005 4:50Reply with quoteI recently switched from Limit Hold Em to No Limit and agree that No Limit is the better game--it takes more skill and is the ultimate skill tester.One thing that I haven't seen mentioned here--Once you have switched over to No Limit from Limit, try switching back to Limit for awhile. I think you will find your Limit game MUCH improved. Playing No Limit makes you a better Limit player.

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good post...the story just keeps getting worse. Too bad you got knocked out. There isn't too much the dealers can do to affect the outcome, but you should know that dealers do all they can to look out for players that take care of them. As a poker player, I'd rather have the dealer on my side than against me.
i sure as hell hope this isn't true. if it is, that's the best reason i've heard yet not to tip them.
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I'm just talking about you being cheap in general, like your comment about you dont tip when there is % taken already....so when you go with a group to a restraunt where there is a gratuity, do you not tip the waitress ?
If the bill is 100.00 and their is a gratuity charge of 15% added, then i would aggree to all throw in an extra bit to bring it up to 20%. if the gratuity charge was 20% i would not throw in extraif i was alone and no gratuity was added, i would tip 15 - 25% depending on service, and "chance to get her number"If i was served by multiple waiters and waitresses, would i tip them all 15%?. of course not, my tip would still remain 15 - 25% of the final bill. Even if i knew they were going to devide that up amongst them all.When you're at a bar and the drink is 3.75 and you pay with a 5 . do you tip?. do you tip 0.25 or d you tip a dollar. or do you just leave the change?.I'l tell you what i do, I leave the change. Of course i think this is ridiculous over a span of time, since he/she did about 20 seconds of work. But i have a sister, and friends who were / are still bartenders, and i understand some of the BS they go through. Which can alter my view.But like i said for the 5th time now, do i tip dealers . YES. do i feel the need to tip them mounds of cash for their jobs?. No
Thank goodness you posted this Royal, otherwise I would have disowned you. I am a notorious overtipper. I am not proud of my overtipping but I get crazy generous with drinks in me. You saved our relationship with this one. phew.
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I never said dealers cheat. So don't YOU put words in my mouth. If you knw anything about the game, it is nearly impossible for dealers to cheat. and no one in their right mind would risk getting blacklisted. REREAD what i said. Good tips = good experienced dealers running your games, No tips = exactly the opposite. You must not play enough live poker to know the difference. Especially if you think dealers will cheat the players. If that issue doesn't matter to you, then fine.As for you point about Hachem taking down 9 mil if the staff took 1% less...way to do the math!!! Get yourself a cookie for that. You fail to see that the Rio spent tons of money on a expanded convention center, hired the staff, supplied all the chips and tables, and ran the event fairly smoothly for six weeks and took a 6% cut for all their work. But you could care less about that. You only see the players side. Just like Royal Tour out there, and everyone else who thinks just because the dealt their home game they could be a dealer, and Harrah's and the staff are robbing them. People should actually attempt to do the job themselves before they judge it.If not for Harrah's and the staff, there wouldn't be a WSOP to compete in to begin with. So show a little gratitude for them putting on the best event in the Poker World.
You couldn't really be that naive. The good old boys and girls of Harrah's doing the world of poker a big favor? They made a business decision and set prices they thought would give them the correct balance of paying customers, taking into account the drinks, rakes at side games, rooms, publicity, etc. Gratitude? You've got to be kidding.
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Great article DC, sure has spurred some debate and maybe even some negativity for some reason, can't see why. Anyway i did enjoy the point you brought up of the autralian culture and how they look at tipping, i know in korea it's very much the same. In fact even if you do try to tip they won't even accept it.

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Nice rehash of a 2+2 thread DC.
gee, nice of you to notice that since one of the main points of topic in my article actually ... you know... WAS the discussions on 2+2 and RGP and FCP.... so weird that I actually used examples and qotes from those boards... ya know?
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gee, nice of you to notice that since one of the main points of topic in my article actually ... you know... WAS the discussions on 2+2 and RGP and FCP.... so weird that I actually used examples and qotes from those boards... ya know?Also the entire premise, and most of the content.Doesn't matter to me, just saying it's sort of lame subject matter to regurgitate a post from months ago.It's what's referred to in journalistic cirlces as being a "hack". good luck with future rehashes. I saw a good debate about of raising AK prelfop in LHE was a good idea in the BB about 3 months ago. I'm sure searching will turn it up, so there's your next article, man :club:

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guess not everybody can be a hemmingway and write about the first time fabio got anal from a bi sexual pirate..Wow, it would never occur to me to try. In fact, I'd never had a gay fantasy about that so wouldn't have thought to post it.Did you type with both hands there?What do you want me to do, exactly? Lie and say he wrote a nice original article? He didn't. He wrote one about old news that had been debated to death and allready written about ad infinitum.Maybe next time we can read about Moneymaker v Farha or something equally original.

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gee, nice of you to notice that since one of the main points of topic in my article actually ... you know... WAS the discussions on 2+2 and RGP and FCP.... so weird that I actually used examples and qotes from those boards... ya know?Also the entire premise, and most of the content.Doesn't matter to me, just saying it's sort of lame subject matter to regurgitate a post from months ago.It's what's referred to in journalistic cirlces as being a "hack". good luck with future rehashes. I saw a good debate about of raising AK prelfop in LHE was a good idea in the BB about 3 months ago. I'm sure searching will turn it up, so there's your next article, man :club:
Smash, As far as I know, NONE of the poker magazine's had articles written about the whole joseph hachem tip situation, or even tournament tipping in general. wether or not it was 3 months ago doesn't change the fact that the editor of gutshot hadn't even HEARD about the $100 tip... and since it hadn't been in any of the other magazines... i guess since its being debated again on HERE you can say I "rehashed" the topic, but I didn't take an opinion on the whole joseph hachem part, I only took an opinion on what I think the tournament hosts could do to make the situation betterlame subject matter? thats your opinion. just like how I think ROMANCE NOVELS suck :D ( i don't really know if its true... if it is... then... well... YOUR subject matter is "lame" )
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guess not everybody can be a hemmingway and write about the first time fabio got anal from a bi sexual pirate..Wow, it would never occur to me to try. In fact, I'd never had a gay fantasy about that so wouldn't have thought to post it.Did you type with both hands there?What do you want me to do, exactly? Lie and say he wrote a nice original article? He didn't. He wrote one about old news that had been debated to death and allready written about ad infinitum.Maybe next time we can read about Moneymaker v Farha or something equally original.
no, to be honest i didnt use any..the pencil was glued to my head...i often have gay pirate fantasies,,,my therapist says its becasue i was made to "walk the plank" by my boy scout leader ..funny , cause he didnt even have a boat<shrug.
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