WonderfulSplash 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 1/2 (6max) Party-3rd hand at table so no reads.Preflop: Hero has JJ on the Button3 folds, I raise, Sb calls, BB folds.Flop: 10h 10d 6dSB checks, I bet, SB callsTurn: 5hSB checks, I bet, SB raises, Hero..??The way villian played this screams trips, but I was just unsure if I should call down anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 coud it be semi-bluffing a draw?getting about 3.75 : 1 effective to call down.I'd call down.Being I have no reads and I'm new to table...image thing...maybe spewage. Also, this seems like a great bluff opportunity.I think your beat and the odds may not jsutify it, but for other pruposes that are not quanifiable w/o reads, I'd call.Thse hands frustrate me so much that it makes HU one of the most frustrating parts of th game.Just think, what are the odds that the SB has a 10?. Certainly an aggressive player 3-bets a better over pairVs the odds he wants to "teach you to steal on your 3rd hand"This has to work for him <25%, I think.CALL DOWN. Link to post Share on other sites
LaydownKing 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Don't fold an overpair HU, ever. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Don't fold an overpair HU, ever.80% true, probably. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Don't fold an overpair HU, ever.this is really bad advice, do you see whyOP, I call it down Link to post Share on other sites
PROpOKER_101 0 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Don't fold an overpair HU, ever.this is really bad advice, do you see whyOP, I call it downNo, I don't. Why? Link to post Share on other sites
LaydownKing 0 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Don't fold an overpair HU, ever.this is really bad advice, do you see whyOP, I call it downNo, I don't. Why? Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 board reads 4567 all clubs you hold 10d 10swhat do you do if its capped in front of you Link to post Share on other sites
WonderfulSplash 0 Posted September 3, 2005 Author Share Posted September 3, 2005 board reads 4567 all clubs you hold 10d 10swhat do you do if its capped in front of youIts heads up so it can't be capped in front, but hopefully they get the point anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
TheIceman05 0 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 board reads 4567 all clubs you hold 10d 10swhat do you do if its capped in front of youIts heads up so it can't be capped in front, but hopefully they get the point anyway.It can be if he decided to try the ole "quad bet" move.There are certain situations where you're surely against a higher Pocket pair or set. If a Tight-Passive player starts hammering the flop when you have 99 and the flop is 236, you're not ahead.....Ice Link to post Share on other sites
LaydownKing 0 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 board reads 4567 all clubs you hold 10d 10swhat do you do if its capped in front of youIts heads up so it can't be capped in front, but hopefully they get the point anyway.It can be if he decided to try the ole "quad bet" move.There are certain situations where you're surely against a higher Pocket pair or set. If a Tight-Passive player starts hammering the flop when you have 99 and the flop is 236, you're not ahead.....IceProbably not. But if this guy has to ask this question, he obviously undervalues the power of an overpair HU, so I am trying to convey it. Especailly at 6-max, where everyone is so aggressive, you would make a ton of money seeing SD with every overpair. Link to post Share on other sites
WonderfulSplash 0 Posted September 3, 2005 Author Share Posted September 3, 2005 board reads 4567 all clubs you hold 10d 10swhat do you do if its capped in front of youIts heads up so it can't be capped in front, but hopefully they get the point anyway.It can be if he decided to try the ole "quad bet" move.There are certain situations where you're surely against a higher Pocket pair or set. If a Tight-Passive player starts hammering the flop when you have 99 and the flop is 236, you're not ahead.....IceProbably not. But if this guy has to ask this question, he obviously undervalues the power of an overpair HU, so I am trying to convey it. Especailly at 6-max, where everyone is so aggressive, you would make a ton of money seeing SD with every overpair.Its not that i don't understand the strength of my hand, but with the villian check/raising here Im behind the majority of the time and thought it was close between folding and calling it down.Its kinda like when you have AA and the board reads, A,10,9,4,8, and you fold to a check/raise. Link to post Share on other sites
TheIceman05 0 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 board reads 4567 all clubs you hold 10d 10swhat do you do if its capped in front of youIts heads up so it can't be capped in front, but hopefully they get the point anyway.It can be if he decided to try the ole "quad bet" move.There are certain situations where you're surely against a higher Pocket pair or set. If a Tight-Passive player starts hammering the flop when you have 99 and the flop is 236, you're not ahead.....IceProbably not. But if this guy has to ask this question, he obviously undervalues the power of an overpair HU, so I am trying to convey it. Especailly at 6-max, where everyone is so aggressive, you would make a ton of money seeing SD with every overpair.Its not that i don't understand the strength of my hand, but with the villian check/raising here Im behind the majority of the time and thought it was close between folding and calling it down.Its kinda like when you have AA and the board reads, A,10,9,4,8, and you fold to a check/raise.If you do this, u suk.Ice Link to post Share on other sites
LaydownKing 0 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 board reads 4567 all clubs you hold 10d 10swhat do you do if its capped in front of youIts heads up so it can't be capped in front, but hopefully they get the point anyway.It can be if he decided to try the ole "quad bet" move.There are certain situations where you're surely against a higher Pocket pair or set. If a Tight-Passive player starts hammering the flop when you have 99 and the flop is 236, you're not ahead.....IceProbably not. But if this guy has to ask this question, he obviously undervalues the power of an overpair HU, so I am trying to convey it. Especailly at 6-max, where everyone is so aggressive, you would make a ton of money seeing SD with every overpair.Its not that i don't understand the strength of my hand, but with the villian check/raising here Im behind the majority of the time and thought it was close between folding and calling it down.Its kinda like when you have AA and the board reads, A,10,9,4,8, and you fold to a check/raise.It's not close, there are tons of LAGs shorthanded that will try to push you off AK. My laydown, however, was the result of meticulous computation and skillful reads.So stfu noob. Link to post Share on other sites
WonderfulSplash 0 Posted September 3, 2005 Author Share Posted September 3, 2005 board reads 4567 all clubs you hold 10d 10swhat do you do if its capped in front of youIts heads up so it can't be capped in front, but hopefully they get the point anyway.It can be if he decided to try the ole "quad bet" move.There are certain situations where you're surely against a higher Pocket pair or set. If a Tight-Passive player starts hammering the flop when you have 99 and the flop is 236, you're not ahead.....IceProbably not. But if this guy has to ask this question, he obviously undervalues the power of an overpair HU, so I am trying to convey it. Especailly at 6-max, where everyone is so aggressive, you would make a ton of money seeing SD with every overpair.Its not that i don't understand the strength of my hand, but with the villian check/raising here Im behind the majority of the time and thought it was close between folding and calling it down.Its kinda like when you have AA and the board reads, A,10,9,4,8, and you fold to a check/raise.It's not close, there are tons of LAGs shorthanded that will try to push you off AK. My laydown, however, was the result of meticulous computation and skillful reads.So stfu noob.It was actually the result of you being a total donk who made up a lame ass story about folding the fourth nuts to try and get attention for himself on an internet forum.YSALGKY Link to post Share on other sites
screech 0 Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Hero..Doesn't fold.Sometimes you lose. Link to post Share on other sites
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