wilheldp 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 I for one don't care about the gas prices....have a look at these links and tell me gas prices are important !!it is from fox newshttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168132,00.html OK, you can say that loss of human life is more important than paying $10 more per fill-up, but you are missing the underlying issue here. Our economy is already on the verge of collapse, and the last thing we need is more pressure on it.We are over $4 Trillion in debt, we're fighting a war that is costing $1 Billion a day, we are giving $10+ Billion to Louisiana, and every time somebody asks for money (i.e. Tsunami victims) we throw a few Billion their way. Eventually, people are going to realize how useless the US Dollar is, and we are going to experience Hyper-Inflation that would rival Germany after the fall of the Third Reich.A spike in the price of crude and/or gasoline is going to put even more pressure on an overburdened national economy, and drives one more nail in the coffin of the US as we know it. Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Mensch 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 It’s a little thing called “empathy”. Quite common in mammals. Helps do little things like propagate the species and all.So ... you're heading down to Louisiana ... looking to get laid?kidding.Feel their pain, sure. Be a good person. But all too many people seem to want to go out of their way to 1) Find ways to feel worse and worse about somebody else's problem 2) Chastise me for refusing to cry over spilled milk. Sure, it's the biggest puddle of spilled milk in living memory, but it wasn't my milkAllow me to reiterate - the biggest effect this will have on my life is higher gas prices. Well, that, and not being able to get away from the media's harping on this for the rest of 2005.Mensch Link to post Share on other sites
Rageur 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Do you people not have enough going on in your own life that you have time enough to spend fretting about what happens to a bunch of people who chose to live in a swamp? On the Gulf coast, no less? Unless this storm has affected you personally, why do you care? Sounds like you're not busy enough. At my Uni, cute little sorority chicks were still selling tsunami bracelets in freakin' MARCH! Now the media and the charities will be holding this over our heads until at least Christmas, screaming "CARE! CARE! CARE! WE ORDER YOU TO GIVE A CRAP!I refuse. Sucks for them, glad it's not me. Beyond that, meh. Get over it. it's not my problem. Don't make it yours. You know what the biggest impact this event is going to have on my life is?Really? You wanna know?Higher gas prices.Mensch You are doomed. Seriously, karma will kill you dead, boy. Link to post Share on other sites
robert f 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 I for one don't care about the gas prices....have a look at these links and tell me gas prices are important !!it is from fox newshttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168132,00.html OK, you can say that loss of human life is more important than paying $10 more per fill-up, but you are missing the underlying issue here. Our economy is already on the verge of collapse, and the last thing we need is more pressure on it.We are over $4 Trillion in debt, we're fighting a war that is costing $1 Billion a day, we are giving $10+ Billion to Louisiana, and every time somebody asks for money (i.e. Tsunami victims) we throw a few Billion their way. Eventually, people are going to realize how useless the US Dollar is, and we are going to experience Hyper-Inflation that would rival Germany after the fall of the Third Reich.A spike in the price of crude and/or gasoline is going to put even more pressure on an overburdened national economy, and drives one more nail in the coffin of the US as we know it. I thought the hyper inflation was before the Third Reich??? Link to post Share on other sites
Jeepster80125 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 We are over $4 Trillion in debt, we're fighting a war that is costing $1 Billion a day, we are giving $10+ Billion to Louisiana, and every time somebody asks for money (i.e. Tsunami victims) we throw a few Billion their way. Eventually, people are going to realize how useless the US Dollar is, and we are going to experience Hyper-Inflation that would rival Germany after the fall of the Third Reich. A spike in the price of crude and/or gasoline is going to put even more pressure on an overburdened national economy, and drives one more nail in the coffin of the US as we know it.If this is the end of the US, you better grab your tinfoil hat. Go here...www.theworldisendingandIneedmytinfoilhat.comI made a donation to the Red Cross today. What else can i do from here in suburban Denver? J Link to post Share on other sites
Royal_Tour 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 I for one don't care about the gas prices....have a look at these links and tell me gas prices are important !!it is from fox newshttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168132,00.html OK, you can say that loss of human life is more important than paying $10 more per fill-up, but you are missing the underlying issue here. Our economy is already on the verge of collapse, and the last thing we need is more pressure on it.We are over $4 Trillion in debt, we're fighting a war that is costing $1 Billion a day, we are giving $10+ Billion to Louisiana, and every time somebody asks for money (i.e. Tsunami victims) we throw a few Billion their way. Eventually, people are going to realize how useless the US Dollar is, and we are going to experience Hyper-Inflation that would rival Germany after the fall of the Third Reich.A spike in the price of crude and/or gasoline is going to put even more pressure on an overburdened national economy, and drives one more nail in the coffin of the US as we know it.umm.. i hate to alarm you, but you can stop buiding your bomb shelter. Your Mad Max anarchist society is not going to happen regardless of the amount of money being spent. Link to post Share on other sites
kennyg1966 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Author Share Posted September 2, 2005 I for one don't care about the gas prices....have a look at these links and tell me gas prices are important !!it is from fox newshttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168132,00.html OK, you can say that loss of human life is more important than paying $10 more per fill-up, but you are missing the underlying issue here. Our economy is already on the verge of collapse, and the last thing we need is more pressure on it.We are over $4 Trillion in debt, we're fighting a war that is costing $1 Billion a day, we are giving $10+ Billion to Louisiana, and every time somebody asks for money (i.e. Tsunami victims) we throw a few Billion their way. Eventually, people are going to realize how useless the US Dollar is, and we are going to experience Hyper-Inflation that would rival Germany after the fall of the Third Reich.A spike in the price of crude and/or gasoline is going to put even more pressure on an overburdened national economy, and drives one more nail in the coffin of the US as we know it.i'm sure you are correct with all your #'s..but there is nothing we can do about the price of oil...someone is getting rich with all these price hikes...I'm in canada..our gas tax hits us very hard.with the surplus we are supposed to have in our budget why don't they give a small tax break in the gas tax..and why not make the gas guzzling cars and trucks pay the high prices.....give the people that burn a reasonable ammount of gas a break..also the people that need their vehicle to work with....the affect of these prices will be felt all the way down to the food we buy.....the vacations we take...airlines were having problems before wait to see what happens now....I'm paying $1.26/lit. this now gives the gas companies the chance to lower it eventually to say $1.06 and everyone will be happy without realizing we are still getting royally screwed...wow...i go on and on not knowing exactly what i am thinking about....BUT still the gas prices at the moment should in my mind take second stage to the hurricane victums..they deserve it.. Link to post Share on other sites
agsa6079 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Jesus Christ people, have you all gone soft in the head? This effects you in more ways than you can begin to imagine.First, Herr Mensch, there is a special place in hell for people like you. I'm from the Gulf Coast, work in law enforcement and have witnessed the devastation first hand. You sir, are an idiot. There are thousands dead, 100's of thousands jobless and homeless, the majority of oil-gas refinery plants in the region have been destroyed, natural gas offshore mining and drilling is stopped for a long time, and the potential for widespread disease throughout the US is high. All as a result of the happenings in New Orleans.How does this effect you? Well, gas is higher than ever, and will continue to rise until it runs out or becomes rationed nationwide. Canada is our biggest crude oil supplier, but since we have no way to refine it to gasoline, we won't need to buy as much, allowing other competing nations, such as China to pick up the surplus and gain that much more of a strategic advantage. You should expect the overall cost of living to go up as a result of the billions of dollars we will end up pumping into the relief effort. The risk of infectious disease will be higher nationwide.The fact that New Orleans will be uninhabitable for at least a year means almost 1,000,000 people wil be displaced to other communities across the US, causing strain on an already streched thin schools, governemtn, hospital, etc. system.We are concentrating our National Guard and military troops in a specific location, increasing our vulnerability to attack, and lessening our defensive structure.Lets see, did I miss anything??Oh yeah, all 12 major casinos in the 2nd most popular gambling locale in the US was wiped out. Link to post Share on other sites
Mojo_Yugen 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Mensch,I agree with a lot of your points but the whole “Unless this has affected you personally...” line and the title of your thread was way harsh. Admit that.Yes, having the media cover this 24x7 and having people obsess over it continually isn’t good or healthy; but trying to tune it out entirely is just as bad. There is such a thing as middle ground. Yes, living in a city on the coast that is below sea level is dumb. Yes, the media is going to go overboard with their coverage. Be outraged or pissed or whatever at that, but remember that people are dying as we speak. Children that had no choice in the matter; poor, old and hospitalized people that couldn’t get out; people who went to shelters and are now struggling; and yes, people that were too stubborn/stupid to leave in the first place. All these people I feel for. Link to post Share on other sites
Presto 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Do you people not have enough going on in your own life that you have time enough to spend fretting about what happens to a bunch of people who chose to live in a swamp? On the Gulf coast, no less? Unless this storm has affected you personally, why do you care? Sounds like you're not busy enough. At my Uni, cute little sorority chicks were still selling tsunami bracelets in freakin' MARCH! Now the media and the charities will be holding this over our heads until at least Christmas, screaming "CARE! CARE! CARE! WE ORDER YOU TO GIVE A CRAP!I refuse. Sucks for them, glad it's not me. Beyond that, meh. Get over it. it's not my problem. Don't make it yours. You know what the biggest impact this event is going to have on my life is?Really? You wanna know?Higher gas prices.MenschWOW, That is such a self centered statement you have no reason to be on this planet Link to post Share on other sites
tweeds07 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 I sincerely hope that God strikes you dead within 24 hours. If not, I know people at Clemson. Link to post Share on other sites
wilheldp 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 If this is the end of the US, you better grab your tinfoil hat. Go here...www.theworldisendingandIneedmytinfoilhat.comI made a donation to the Red Cross today. What else can i do from here in suburban Denver? JI'd rather have a tin foil hat on my head than my head in the sand (or up my ass). Link to post Share on other sites
Herr Mensch 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 I sincerely hope that God strikes you dead within 24 hours. If not, I know people at Clemson.If you actually believe that there is a god, then why get upset at what he did to New Orleans? It must be part of his grand plan, right?That is such a self centered statement you have no reason to be on this planetI care far more about myself and my immediate family, and how this storm will affest us than about people that I don't know, whether they're children, elderly, infirm, what have you. Self-centered? Damn straight. All these people I feel for.Certainly. So did I, at first. then I got over it. Still sounds like some people around here aren't busy enough.Let me state here that my visceral reaction was a bit overboard. It was a reaction to the ignorance of the OP. Someone mentioned earlier what a devastating effect this will have on the overall U.S. economy. I maintain that the higher gas prices are far more important to me than the suffering of a few hunreds of thousands of strangers. If you don't care about the price of gas, then you must be able to afford not to care. I have to care about the cost of a fill-up. I don't have to care about New Orleans. Unfortunately, we're all going to be force-fed this stuff for months. "Change the Channel?" you say? Okay, I'll just turn the TV off and check some blogs. Katrina benefit tournament, gathering supplies to send down to the Big Easy.... Screw this, I'll go check out FCP. Guess what I found.How does this effect you? Well, gas is higher than ever, and will continue to rise until it runs out or becomes rationed nationwide. Canada is our biggest crude oil supplier, but since we have no way to refine it to gasoline, we won't need to buy as much, allowing other competing nations, such as China to pick up the surplus and gain that much more of a strategic advantage.You should expect the overall cost of living to go up as a result of the billions of dollars we will end up pumping into the relief effort.The risk of infectious disease will be higher nationwide.The fact that New Orleans will be uninhabitable for at least a year means almost 1,000,000 people wil be displaced to other communities across the US, causing strain on an already streched thin schools, governemtn, hospital, etc. system.We are concentrating our National Guard and military troops in a specific location, increasing our vulnerability to attack, and lessening our defensive structure.Very good. Thank you. These are the things that we should be concerned about, and the talking heads on Sunday morning news will cover this. This stuff is far more important, to all of us, long term, than the suffering of the residents (former residents, I suppose). But most people would rather mope over sad images than plug into the really ugly stuff that you mentioned.Am I an idiot? Perhaps. But anyone who thinks loss of life is the most important aspect of this storm is a beer stein to my Einstein. There are things far worse than death.Mensch Link to post Share on other sites
acesfullmike 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 I wish that i was wealthy and could go help these people, but alas, i donated what i could and gave blood. For those of you that don't give blood on a regular basis, it is a free way to get checked out for just about every sexually transmitted disease and it saves lives. Odds are one day you may need some help, not to mention it just makes you feel like a decent human being even if you arent. For those of you selfish bastards so worried about your gas prices, how much do you drive? The average driver does 15k a year, so we'll say 300 miles a week, if you drive a decent car that gets 15-20 mpg, we're talking about 15-20 gallons of gas a week. Can you really be so selfish as to worry about the extra 20 bucks you are gonna have to shell out a week when people now have nothing to come home to. The loss of life was indeed tragic, but for the millions of people that are now displaced and do have nothing, i feel truly sorry for them and only wish that i could do more to help. If you dont feel some sorrow or empathy for these people then you dont deserve a spot in the human race. Link to post Share on other sites
Blacksheep626 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 sound like youre a real giving person.so i guess u didnt care about 9/11 either.Briefly, not very much. It was important while it was happening, it's all we talked about at work that day, and part of the next. But by Thursday and Friday, I for one had moved on. Or tried to anyway. Problem was, nobody around me would let me move on, and I had to hear news reports for the next month "We found six more dead people today". ALL RIGHT ALREADY! WE GET IT!MenschYou have obviously never lost anyone you have cared about in your life if not you wouldnt talk like such a prick. Does the hurricane effect you directly probably not but thats no reason for you to be an @$$hole. If you dont like it then dont respond your the one that has taken the time out of your day to respond to this so if you didnt respond you wouldnt have to talk about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Macint0sh 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 How would y'all feel about 7 bucks a gallon?Now shut up. Link to post Share on other sites
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kennyg1966 0 Posted September 3, 2005 Author Share Posted September 3, 2005 I sincerely hope that God strikes you dead within 24 hours. If not, I know people at Clemson.If you actually believe that there is a god, then why get upset at what he did to New Orleans? It must be part of his grand plan, right?That is such a self centered statement you have no reason to be on this planetI care far more about myself and my immediate family, and how this storm will affest us than about people that I don't know, whether they're children, elderly, infirm, what have you. Self-centered? Damn straight. All these people I feel for.Certainly. So did I, at first. then I got over it. Still sounds like some people around here aren't busy enough.Let me state here that my visceral reaction was a bit overboard. It was a reaction to the ignorance of the OP. Someone mentioned earlier what a devastating effect this will have on the overall U.S. economy. I maintain that the higher gas prices are far more important to me than the suffering of a few hunreds of thousands of strangers. If you don't care about the price of gas, then you must be able to afford not to care. I have to care about the cost of a fill-up. I don't have to care about New Orleans. Unfortunately, we're all going to be force-fed this stuff for months. "Change the Channel?" you say? Okay, I'll just turn the TV off and check some blogs. Katrina benefit tournament, gathering supplies to send down to the Big Easy.... Screw this, I'll go check out FCP. Guess what I found.How does this effect you? Well, gas is higher than ever, and will continue to rise until it runs out or becomes rationed nationwide. Canada is our biggest crude oil supplier, but since we have no way to refine it to gasoline, we won't need to buy as much, allowing other competing nations, such as China to pick up the surplus and gain that much more of a strategic advantage.You should expect the overall cost of living to go up as a result of the billions of dollars we will end up pumping into the relief effort.The risk of infectious disease will be higher nationwide.The fact that New Orleans will be uninhabitable for at least a year means almost 1,000,000 people wil be displaced to other communities across the US, causing strain on an already streched thin schools, governemtn, hospital, etc. system.We are concentrating our National Guard and military troops in a specific location, increasing our vulnerability to attack, and lessening our defensive structure.Very good. Thank you. These are the things that we should be concerned about, and the talking heads on Sunday morning news will cover this. This stuff is far more important, to all of us, long term, than the suffering of the residents (former residents, I suppose). But most people would rather mope over sad images than plug into the really ugly stuff that you mentioned.Am I an idiot? Perhaps. But anyone who thinks loss of life is the most important aspect of this storm is a beer stein to my Einstein. There are things far worse than death.Menschtake a walk !!! Link to post Share on other sites
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