MarcBrown 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I agree, David Williams blows..........let's see how long he can ride out his 4 million in winnings. Out of all those guys on the Young Guns of Poker I would have to go with Fischman and Cassidy as players I can see lasting on the tournament circuit for quite sometime. Here would be my order ranking them from top to bottom.........1. Fischman - handles poker like a professional athlete2. Cassidy - high limit player in LA3. Thunder Keller - online pro who kills the 300/600 Omaha 8 or better on UB4. Dags - Is this guy really a midget or is it just me, Fischman is one as well.5. Lawson, simply because he could kick David's ass6. Williams - my little sister could punk this kid down Link to post Share on other sites
2_hotty 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I agree, David Williams blowsWell, he's won over 107,000 so far this year, and over 800k since the 3.5 million that he won at the WSOP.Your right, he sucks. Link to post Share on other sites
Don Giovanni 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I agree, David Williams blows..........let's see how long he can ride out his 4 million in winnings. Out of all those guys on the Young Guns of Poker I would have to go with Fischman and Cassidy as players I can see lasting on the tournament circuit for quite sometime. Here would be my order ranking them from top to bottom.........1. Fischman - handles poker like a professional athlete2. Cassidy - high limit player in LA3. Thunder Keller - online pro who kills the 300/600 Omaha 8 or better on UB4. Dags - Is this guy really a midget or is it just me, Fischman is one as well.5. Lawson, simply because he could kick David's ass6. Williams - my little sister could punk this kid downyour an idiot so who cares what you think Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 How and why did this start with Unger and DN and get to Williams. Alf stay off this thread if you didn't like it. I have never seen a post about Unger and Daniel. But I am not on here everyday. SO please start another thread for all the stuff you want to talk about. Link to post Share on other sites
dms26 3 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 How and why did this start with Unger and DN and get to Williams. Alf stay off this thread if you didn't like it. I have never seen a post about Unger and Daniel. But I am not on here everyday. SO please start another thread for all the stuff you want to talk about.actually if it wasn't for him this thread would be buried on page 7 by now. You should thank him. Link to post Share on other sites
alf13 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 How and why did this start with Unger and DN and get to Williams. Alf stay off this thread if you didn't like it. I have never seen a post about Unger and Daniel. But I am not on here everyday. SO please start another thread for all the stuff you want to talk about.Dude...ther are like 4000 threads on exactly this.....use the search feature. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 DN is on his honeymoon, your not getting a response anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
JesseW316 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 How and why did this start with Unger and DN and get to Williams. Alf stay off this thread if you didn't like it. I have never seen a post about Unger and Daniel. But I am not on here everyday. SO please start another thread for all the stuff you want to talk about.UNGARUNGARUNGARUNGARUNGARUNGARUNGARUNGARUNGARUNGARUNGARUNGARUNGARUNGARUNGARUNGARDumb **** Link to post Share on other sites
Teph 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I agree, David Williams blows..........let's see how long he can ride out his 4 million in winnings. Out of all those guys on the Young Guns of Poker I would have to go with Fischman and Cassidy as players I can see lasting on the tournament circuit for quite sometime. Here would be my order ranking them from top to bottom.........1. Fischman - handles poker like a professional athlete2. Cassidy - high limit player in LA3. Thunder Keller - online pro who kills the 300/600 Omaha 8 or better on UB4. Dags - Is this guy really a midget or is it just me, Fischman is one as well.5. Lawson, simply because he could kick David's ass6. Williams - my little sister could punk this kid downLOL!!!Fischman #1??He somehow manages to get his money in with a dominated hand for most to all of his chips. Getting extremely lucky to take a huge pot and ride it to a final table is his claim to fame. Do not be surprised when you hear from him less and less, when variance starts to kick in.To be fair, He isn't as terrible a player as TV shows I am sure, but he would be a nobody if he had gotten knocked out of the '04 series by one of the infinite hands he outdrew on. I seriously do not understand how people neglect this. BTW, according to your ranking system, your opinion officially never matters again. Link to post Share on other sites
jten21 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I agree, David Williams blows..........let's see how long he can ride out his 4 million in winnings. Out of all those guys on the Young Guns of Poker I would have to go with Fischman and Cassidy as players I can see lasting on the tournament circuit for quite sometime. Here would be my order ranking them from top to bottom.........1. Fischman - handles poker like a professional athlete2. Cassidy - high limit player in LA3. Thunder Keller - online pro who kills the 300/600 Omaha 8 or better on UB4. Dags - Is this guy really a midget or is it just me, Fischman is one as well.5. Lawson, simply because he could kick David's ass6. Williams - my little sister could punk this kid downLOL!!!Fischman #1??He somehow manages to get his money in with a dominated hand for most to all of his chips. Getting extremely lucky to take a huge pot and ride it to a final table is his claim to fame. Do not be surprised when you hear from him less and less, when variance starts to kick in.To be fair, He isn't as terrible a player as TV shows I am sure, but he would be a nobody if he had gotten knocked out of the '04 series by one of the infinite hands he outdrew on. I seriously do not understand how people neglect this. BTW, according to your ranking system, your opinion officially never matters again.Teph, you forgot the s/w. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 fischman may be the "best" right now but cassidy will pass him up...dude has wicked skills...its always a joy to watch keller destroy people at 300/600 though Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Ungar may be the most overrated Holdem player in history. Link to post Share on other sites
alf13 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Ungar may be the most overrated Holdem player in history.Yeah....but you can't argue with how he used to set people on fire at the table with lightning bolts from his azz.....his urine also tasted like champagne....(as per Mike Sexton) Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 fischman may be the "best" right nowPut.The.Crack.Pipe. Down. Link to post Share on other sites
caphair 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 fischman may be the "best" right nowPut.The.Crack.Pipe. Down.couldn't have said it better myself. everyone knows varkoni is still the best... Link to post Share on other sites
KowboyKoop 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 You guys are idiots, everyone knows the two best "young guns" are Dutch Boyd and Tommy Reed...and in regards to the original topic....I would probably reraise all-in, taking into consideration that your opponent doesn't want to bust on the bubble and even if he does call, you are probably a coin flip if he calls. Link to post Share on other sites
augmented 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 You guys are idiots, everyone knows the two best "young guns" are Dutch Boyd and Tommy Reed...and in regards to the original topic....I would probably reraise all-in, taking into consideration that your opponent doesn't want to bust on the bubble and even if he does call, you are probably a coin flip if he calls.hahahaaha.also tommy reed=genius. did you see that laydown he made against david pham? incredible instincts. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 fischman may be the "best" right nowPut.The.Crack.Pipe. Down.thats why i put it in quotes..i dont think hes the best..but he is probably ranked the highest b/c of wsop wins and what not...id put my money on cassidy anyday Link to post Share on other sites
Teph 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I agree, David Williams blows..........let's see how long he can ride out his 4 million in winnings. Out of all those guys on the Young Guns of Poker I would have to go with Fischman and Cassidy as players I can see lasting on the tournament circuit for quite sometime. Here would be my order ranking them from top to bottom.........1. Fischman - handles poker like a professional athlete2. Cassidy - high limit player in LA3. Thunder Keller - online pro who kills the 300/600 Omaha 8 or better on UB4. Dags - Is this guy really a midget or is it just me, Fischman is one as well.5. Lawson, simply because he could kick David's ass6. Williams - my little sister could punk this kid downLOL!!!Fischman #1??He somehow manages to get his money in with a dominated hand for most to all of his chips. Getting extremely lucky to take a huge pot and ride it to a final table is his claim to fame. Do not be surprised when you hear from him less and less, when variance starts to kick in.To be fair, He isn't as terrible a player as TV shows I am sure, but he would be a nobody if he had gotten knocked out of the '04 series by one of the infinite hands he outdrew on. I seriously do not understand how people neglect this. BTW, according to your ranking system, your opinion officially never matters again.Teph, you forgot the s/w.I don't know if this is supposed to be funny or serious. Either way, no I didn't, Fischman had two good years. Let me have the ability to get paid off on every big hand I have while sucking out on the ones where I slipped up and I will win more money than he has. Like I said, variance. The only way he will be a name in a few years is if he improves his game immensely, or keeps getting rediculously lucky. BOOM!fischman may be the "best" right now but cassidy will pass him up...dude has wicked skills...its always a joy to watch keller destroy people at 300/600 thoughGood use of quotes, unfortunately tournament rankings hold less importance than money, the real judge of success (I like money, bracelets come second.). Cassidy already wins the "Better than Fischman" Award. Other winners include: Jean Robert Bellande, Henry Tran, and Doug Lee.(okay, mild s/w that time) Link to post Share on other sites
jcpoker 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 david williams has won millions playing poker, scored over a 1550 on his SATs, and traveled to over 50 countries playing poker and magic, what have you done? Link to post Share on other sites
Teph 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 david williams has won millions playing poker, scored over a 1550 on his SATs, and traveled to over 50 countries playing poker and magic, what have you done?Jennifer Tilly won a bracelet and had made millions acting while in several different countries.(I think Williams is alright, but just an example that you don't have to be the best to win at poker) Link to post Share on other sites
ahrustad 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 David Williams does not blow. This is an absurd statement. The kid went to Princeton and finished 2nd in the Main Event. Ask anyone of the top players on the circuit and they will tell you that David Williams is a great player. Link to post Share on other sites
MarcBrown 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Fischman '052005 Ultimate Poker ChallengeNo-Limit Hold'em Final Day 7/27/05 6 160 $27,100 2005 36th Annual World Series of PokerNo-Limit Hold'em Final Day 6/05/05 2 800 $352,125 2005 World Series of Poker Tournament Circuit- Lake TahoeESPN The WSOP Circuit Championship No-Limit Hold'em Final Day 5/11/05 13 41 $19,720 2005 L.A. Poker ClassicSeven Card Stud High-Low 8/OB Final Day 2/08/05 4 144 $7,938 2005 L.A. Poker ClassicOmaha High-Low 8/OB Final Day 2/04/05 2 260 $23,038 2005 The Sixth Annual Jack Binion World Poker OpenSeven Card Stud High-Low 8/OB Final Day 1/13/05 2 270 $22,393 Total = 452,314Williams '052005 World Series of Poker Tournament Circuit-Harrah's New OrleansESPN The WSOP Circuit Championship FinalDay 5/28/05 15 62 $24,6052005 Third Annual Five-Star World Poker ClassicNo-Limit Hold'em Championship Final Day 4/24/05 25 48 $56,615 Total = 81,220MarcBrownFull Tilt 5/10 NL tables in 2005+167,500Need sources ask Mikey Matusow who I personally busted for 12k one night, although we were playing 25/50 NL Link to post Share on other sites
Teph 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Fischman '052005 Ultimate Poker ChallengeNo-Limit Hold'em Final Day 7/27/05 6 160 $27,100 Â 2005 36th Annual World Series of PokerNo-Limit Hold'em Final Day 6/05/05 2 800 $352,125 Â 2005 World Series of Poker Tournament Circuit- Lake TahoeESPN The WSOP Circuit Championship No-Limit Hold'em Final Day 5/11/05 13 41 $19,720 Â 2005 L.A. Poker ClassicSeven Card Stud High-Low 8/OB Final Day 2/08/05 4 144 $7,938 Â 2005 L.A. Poker ClassicOmaha High-Low 8/OB Final Day 2/04/05 2 260 $23,038 Â 2005 The Sixth Annual Jack Binion World Poker OpenSeven Card Stud High-Low 8/OB Final Day 1/13/05 2 270 $22,393 Â Total = 452,314Williams '052005 World Series of Poker Tournament Circuit-Harrah's New OrleansESPN The WSOP Circuit Championship FinalDay 5/28/05 15 62 $24,6052005 Third Annual Five-Star World Poker ClassicNo-Limit Hold'em Championship Final Day 4/24/05 25 48 $56,615 Â Total = 81,220MarcBrownFull Tilt 5/10 NL tables in 2005+167,500Need sources ask Mikey Matusow who I personally busted for 12k one night, although we were playing 25/50 NLCool, want a $167.500 cookie?nh. Link to post Share on other sites
alf13 0 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 David Williams does not blow. This is an absurd statement. The kid went to Princeton and finished 2nd in the Main Event. Ask anyone of the top players on the circuit and they will tell you that David Williams is a great player.AHHH....No...but nice try anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
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