digitalmonkey 929 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 This is a potential trade proposal I manufactured out of thin air. It has absolutley no credibility that I know of and, being a Montreal Canadiens fan, I'm not sure whether I like it or not. I just thought I'd throw it out there for discussion.To EdmontonMichael RyderTo FloridaJose TheodoreRyan SmythTo MontrealRoberto LuongoJay BoeuwmeesterAll these players (except Luongo) are unsigned restricted free agents. Whaddya think? Link to post Share on other sites
WestcoastCanuck 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Seems even, but each team is giving up players that are key to their team. The Oilers can't get rid of Smyth. Pronger and Peca are nice and all, but Smyth is the heart of that team. Link to post Share on other sites
BigCountry 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Edmonton gets a raw deal in this one.! Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Yeah, there's no way they could give up Ryan Smyth for only Michael Ryder in return. They would be getting flat out shafted on this deal. If the Canadiens gave up Sheldon Souray, it could get interesting, but they'll never do that. Link to post Share on other sites
ignoramus 0 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Florida would never give up Bouwmeister that easily, nor would Edmonton trade Ryan Smyth for Ryder, I like to come up with trades like this too, but this one seems way off base Link to post Share on other sites
Squamch 0 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Getting Luongo out of Florida right now might not be that hard. However, you'd probably need an assault weapon to get Bouwmeester in the same deal. Maybe Smyth and a prospect other than Ales Hemsky (Jani Rita, maybe) for Luongo, though Oiler fans would likely burn down the arena. Still, Luongo's a franchise goalie and worth it.Florida's not going to get a top goalie for Luongo because they can't pay a top goalie. If they could, they'd keep Luongo. Maybe a back up that can play like Boucher in a three way deal. And don't underestimate Michael Ryder. I don't think he was a flash in the pan (not worth Ryan Smyth right now, but still, a very valuable talent). Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted August 30, 2005 Author Share Posted August 30, 2005 Florida did offer Luongo a 5 yr $25 million contract so I think they can afford a top goalie. As for Bouwmeester, he is apparently asking for an amount that the Panthers Organization thinks is ridiculous. Ryder is a player in the mold of Ryan Smyth only younger with a much bigger upside. I don't think this trade is a farfetched as it first appears. Link to post Share on other sites
Squamch 0 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Bouwmeester could probably ask for the moon. The Panthers might not give it to him, but I'm betting they'll let him sit a loooong time before they move him. Link to post Share on other sites
WestcoastCanuck 0 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Ryder is a player in the mold of Ryan Smyth only younger with a much bigger upside. I don't think this trade is a farfetched as it first appears.I don't know if his upside is much bigger. Not big enough to trade the heart of your franchise. The last few years, Smyth has set the tone for the Oilers entire offence. Link to post Share on other sites
jack24bauer24 0 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 This is a potential trade proposal I manufactured out of thin air. Â It has absolutley no credibility that I know of and, being a Montreal Canadiens fan, I'm not sure whether I like it or not. Â I just thought I'd throw it out there for discussion.To EdmontonMichael RyderTo FloridaJose TheodoreRyan SmythTo MontrealRoberto LuongoJay BoeuwmeesterAll these players (except Luongo) are unsigned restricted free agents. Â Whaddya think?Why would Florida trade a better goalie who makes less money than the one they'd be getting in return? Why would they trade Boumeester who's a young stud on defence for another forward? Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted September 1, 2005 Author Share Posted September 1, 2005 Why would Florida trade a better goalie who makes less money than the one they'd be getting in return? Why would they trade Boumeester who's a young stud on defence for another forward?Because both these players are asking for hefty pay raises that Florida doesn't seem to think is warranted. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Why would Florida trade a better goalie who makes less money than the one they'd be getting in return? Why would they trade Boumeester who's a young stud on defence for another forward?Because both these players are asking for hefty pay raises that Keenan doesn't seem to think is warranted.Fixed your post. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 This is a potential trade proposal I manufactured out of thin air. It has absolutley no credibility that I know of and, being a Montreal Canadiens fan, I'm not sure whether I like it or not. I just thought I'd throw it out there for discussion.To EdmontonMichael RyderTo FloridaJose TheodoreRyan SmythTo MontrealRoberto LuongoJay BoeuwmeesterAll these players (except Luongo) are unsigned restricted free agents. Whaddya think?Amazing that this would even be considered. But Theodore had that much trade value? Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Amazing that this would even be considered. But Theodore had that much trade value?Three years removed from winning the Hart and Vezina trophies in the same year...yeah, he was a valuable asset. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Ryder was way overvalued in this, I think. I assume he was coming off his 30 goal season? Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Ryder was way overvalued in this, I think. I assume he was coming off his 30 goal season?Actually this was posted the season before he went back-to-back 30 goals. His rookie season was 25G and 63 pts. Those are Calder numbers most years, including this year...he was nominated but lost out to Raycroft...lol. So figure trying to build a trade around Skinner or Grabner this offseason, that's the mentality behind valuing Ryder back then. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Oh, wow. Didn't realize he had such good rookie numbers.Please don't let this happen to Skinner. Link to post Share on other sites
Underdog 10 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 you wish Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted April 25, 2011 Author Share Posted April 25, 2011 you wishWho wishes what? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Who wishes what?pretty certain JP who is medicated right now, doesnt realize the time frame. Link to post Share on other sites
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