deep-stacked heads-up no limit hand aug 21st

[Guest Anonymous]

Well we will have to play some day. To bad about the nuts.

[Ebonwoulfe 0]

It's not nut peddling. You cannot afford to do that in HU play, not by a long shot. The only problem is, we live by a hyper-aggressive code. We are poker players, and we are good ones, therefore we are agressive. However, against an aggressive opponent (especially heads up) the best strategy might just be to tone down our aggression and let him take the lead. You exploit their strategy, and you extract the maximum (he might keep firing as a bluff) while risking the minimum (just enough to stay in the hand). Don't take their aggression away from them by becoming the new aggressor, because it might lead them to a new, more difficult to counter strategy.

[lboarts 0]

if you're the SB, you do have position postflop... the button is the SB when it's heads-up...and there's a difference between playing a passive game and nut-peddling.aseem

On AP, the BB has the button HU. I've also seen this done live before, in a casino. What makes one way right and one way wrong? Just curious.

[Eastwood Jr. 0]

I think since you had a read that he usually checkraised on naked bluffs reraising on the turn was a bad play for two reasons. The first is that if your read is wrong and he has anything at all your hand is obviosly beat. The second reason is that with a pair, a gut shot and a flush draw there are so many good cards that can come on the river and since you think he's bluffing you don't neccessarily want to lose your customer. Granted I don't usually advocate giving free cards but in this case you have almost all the drawing hands covered. If he has two big cards he's going to draw out on you some of the time however what if a big club comes hence making him aces up or kings up and completing your flush at the same time. Gin right? I think your fake trap turn play might have gotten you played off a potential big pot but its cool to hear that you are thinking not just flailing around like a blade of grass in the wind. Good luck. Hope my advice is useful.

[Eastwood Jr. 0]

I think since you had a read that he usually checkraised on naked bluffs reraising on the turn was a bad play for two reasons. The first is that if your read is wrong and he has anything at all your hand is obviosly beat. The second reason is that with a pair, a gut shot and a flush draw there are so many good cards that can come on the river and since you think he's bluffing you don't neccessarily want to lose your customer. Granted I don't usually advocate giving free cards but in this case you have almost all the drawing hands covered. If he has two big cards he's going to draw out on you some of the time however what if a big club comes hence making him aces up or kings up and completing your flush at the same time. Gin right? I think your fake trap turn play might have gotten you played off a potential big pot but its cool to hear that you are thinking not just flailing around like a blade of grass in the wind. Good luck. Hope my advice is useful.

I wrote this and then saw that Daniel had already responded and said pretty much the same thing a little more concisely. Oh well listen to him, I'll understand.

[lboarts 0]

if you're the SB, you do have position postflop... the button is the SB when it's heads-up...and there's a difference between playing a passive game and nut-peddling.aseem

On AP, the BB has the button HU. I've also seen this done live before, in a casino. What makes one way right and one way wrong? Just curious.

Edit: AP recently switched this. They've also added HU trnys, FYI.

[akishore 0]

if you're the SB, you do have position postflop... the button is the SB when it's heads-up...and there's a difference between playing a passive game and nut-peddling.aseem

On AP, the BB has the button HU. I've also seen this done live before, in a casino. What makes one way right and one way wrong? Just curious.

Edit: AP recently switched this. They've also added HU trnys, FYI.

AP was the "wrong" way by far, just as party still is (on their ring game tables, when it's heads-up, the BB has the button).the reason is that in this setup, the SB has absolutely no incentive to complete since he is out of position the whole hand.aseem

[apple11 0]

im thinking hes got top pair with a flush draw

[apple11 0]

im very suprised you layed this down even if he has the top pair you still have plenty of outs and if hes a maniac like you said always a chance he over played a k a q

[akishore 0]

im very suprised you layed this down even if he has the top pair you still have plenty of outs and if hes a maniac like you said always a chance he over played a k a q

it's close.if i folded, i still had a completely fine amount of chips, especially relative to the blinds. i didn't want to risk it all when all his actions had me confused and my reads contradicted each other. i felt i had a solid edge on him and didn't want to lose all the chips in a gamble i could have easily avoided.keep in mind we weren't playing for $5. :wink: aseem

[Wingmaster05 0]

im very suprised you layed this down even if he has the top pair you still have plenty of outs and if hes a maniac like you said always a chance he over played a k a q

it's close.if i folded, i still had a completely fine amount of chips, especially relative to the blinds. i didn't want to risk it all when all his actions had me confused and my reads contradicted each other. i felt i had a solid edge on him and didn't want to lose all the chips in a gamble i could have easily avoided.keep in mind we weren't playing for $5. :wink: aseem

so did you win the "5 bucks" or not? whatever it was, how did the side wager work? Did you trust the guy would pay 100 bucks or whatever through transfer?