pokerstars software creates hand before its dealt.

[Tritz 1]

I downloaded there trial version and It was not working for me   :?

:roll:

[Royal_Tour 0]

Royal, honestly, you cant rule out the "oh, people are here, it's not working, woops"it's kind of like me saying "hey guys, I have a magic dragon!  Come here quickly!  Oh censored, he flew away, but see, here are his footprints(something I could make myself)."  So ya, it's his word with possibly editted pics vs common sense.  I choose the latter.

Yes., i've heard from 1 poster who said this. and i've heard from tritz who sai that poster wasnt even around.Were you there?i'm just curious.I do not believe it is true, and i do not believe it is fake, however. I do beleive that Tritz is honest, and would not create such a hoaxAnd as for That fucken idiot Andersun:I hope you do just lie there when being fucked, your mother did the same thing, except when i was done. she would let me slap some stomach pancakes on her dirty self.How bout you?.. can i slap you with my purple hammer?.. you want a mushroom bruise?maybe in the temple?.. sound good hmm?. seriously. i'd really like to know how people like yu have made it this far in life.. It gets a lt harder man.. trust me.. your not gonna make.. Just give up now... go find some crack and start to sell it.. i dunno.. just dosomething@!!

[KingAustin 0]

Yes., i've heard from 1 poster who said this. and i've heard from tritz who sai that poster wasnt even around. Were you there? No I wasnt there, but I think spademan said he was watching earlier and he didnt get anything right. I really dont feel like wading through the past pages looking for it though.

[Andersun 0]

Royal, honestly, you cant rule out the "oh, people are here, it's not working, woops"it's kind of like me saying "hey guys, I have a magic dragon!  Come here quickly!  Oh censored, he flew away, but see, here are his footprints(something I could make myself)."  So ya, it's his word with possibly editted pics vs common sense.  I choose the latter.

And as for That fucken idiot Andersun:I hope you do just lie there when being fucked, your mother did the same thing, except when i was done. she would let me slap some stomach pancakes on her dirty self.How bout you?.. can i slap you with my purple hammer?.. you want a mushroom bruise?maybe in the temple?.. sound good hmm?. seriously. i'd really like to know how people like yu have made it this far in life.. It gets a lt harder man.. trust me.. your not gonna make.. Just give up now... go find some crack and start to sell it.. i dunno.. just dosomething@!!

I don't speak retard, Translate Please?

[Royal_Tour 0]

Royal, honestly, you cant rule out the "oh, people are here, it's not working, woops"it's kind of like me saying "hey guys, I have a magic dragon!  Come here quickly!  Oh censored, he flew away, but see, here are his footprints(something I could make myself)."  So ya, it's his word with possibly editted pics vs common sense.  I choose the latter.

And as for That fucken idiot Andersun:I hope you do just lie there when being fucked, your mother did the same thing, except when i was done. she would let me slap some stomach pancakes on her dirty self.How bout you?.. can i slap you with my purple hammer?.. you want a mushroom bruise?maybe in the temple?.. sound good hmm?. seriously. i'd really like to know how people like yu have made it this far in life.. It gets a lt harder man.. trust me.. your not gonna make.. Just give up now... go find some crack and start to sell it.. i dunno.. just dosomething@!!

I don't speak retard, Translate Please?

Umm. i dont know what this is?. what do u mean by this response?. I hope you know i'm a pretty big deal.and your pretty much just a douche bag.Oh for your information, there is theis forum called neverwin poker, its great for people like you. seriously. a real site and forum.Lots ouf douches on it., Youd fit right in..

[Sessna 0]

can u go on ps right now and predict my cards?

[DrawingDeadInDM 0]

Anybody up for Occam's Razor? -Poker Pal says it couldn't have happened.-Poker Stars says it couldn't have happened. -Tritz, with suspect proof, says it did happen. The simplest answer is the most likely.I don't know you Tritz, so it's not my place to say you're a liar, blah blah blah. Just understand that with everything being presented the way it has been, it's exceptionally hard to believe you.

[Andersun 0]

Umm. i dont know what this is?.  what do u mean by this response?. I hope you know i'm a pretty big deal.and your pretty much just a douche bag.Oh for your information, there is theis forum called neverwin poker, its great for people like you. seriously. a real site and forum.Lots ouf douches on it., Youd  fit right in..

[JistTheFist 0]

Ok! OH MY Christ. 21 freakin pages.... and I read every single one so that I wouldn't be the idiot who goes "Ummm... I don't know if anyone has noticed yet or not.... but uh....... that's in play money........... see? I just solved the whole thing... and hey! Hey look! Looked it dealt the empty seat in.... seee I'm a genius and I figured him out."anyways, after reading all of this... here are my thoughts on the subject.1. Tritz, who has been a member of this forum since November of 2004, and has NEVER ever done anything to discredit his integrity, made up some bogus story, has never seemed like an idiot, and has always been polite.... brings this to our attention. HE doesn't accuse anything or anyone, he is just looking for answers.And he stands firm in everything he's said, and is adamant that he is telling the truth.2.These idiots, LoisMustDie and Andersun.... both joined in July of 2005.... let's see that's not even a full month yet right? ok... these guys come on here to talk a whole bunch of trash about people they don't know...Who's side am I going to take here? you guess.....now look... I used to post on this site very frequently.... but I think I've only had like 2 posts in the last 3 or 4 months..... but I had to actually take the time out to post this to tritz..... I believe him.... Why? because I have no real reason not to. He gains absolutely nothing by doing this hoax, and has plenty to lose..... If anyone at all I don't believe that that is really Lee ****ING Jones posting on this site.... I mean COME ON.... everyone on here tells everybody else that they're too gullible and then they sit there.... "Oh cool, lee jones just posted here..... hmmm"..... and then wow.... who would imagine the exact next post is poker pal.... wow, incredible....who would have known Lee Jones and the spokespeople of pokerpal would be making new accounts right at the same time, and then typing their posts at the same time.... and then they hit enter like 5 minutes apart from each other...... it was some dude, who couldn't sleep was up at 4 in the morning and decided to load up a lee jones avatar to post on here.anyways like I said, I felt like coming back to post some support for Tritz whom I believe was the victim of an odd glitch where PS was sending the flop information to his computer ealier than it should have and Pokerpal was using it even though it wasn't on his acct. yet.As for all the flaming going on.... All forums are like this during summers, they get hectic, they get stupid and they get busy..... eventually when these doucheclowns have to go back to school it will get better..... every forum goes through it.... and hopefully we don't lose too many quality members in the process.P.S. Tritz, I'm sorry if you are in fact a woman and I have reffered to you as a male in all of the above.

[lifelessimp 0]

Oohh ooh!! i was there. So what we can figure out from this thread:1.)the images Tritz had were NOT doctored. (or he's pretty ****ing good.)2.)Tritz guessed at least 1 card before it was shown at all.3.) Tritz guessed at least 1 card as it was being shown. (animation shit?!?)4.) Pokerstars and Poker Pal both say there is NO WAY that the program read the future cards.5.) Spademan lost a heads up match to hammerdown. (iuno what this has to do with anything, but w/e.)6.) People have continued to vouch that Tritz is an honest poster and is not trying to be an ass.7.) The program doesn't predict cards anymore.8.) it would be REALLY REALLY hard to hack stars.9.) I like women.10.) Lag could have been a factor.11.) Stars could have sent information to Tritz early, but this is extremely unlikely.so we can conclude that: pokerpal glitched up and messed a bunch of crap up. Therefore we shouldn't worry about anything being rigged or hacked and should go back and play on stars. And forget this thread ever happened. Just let it die.

[Andersun 0]

JistTheFist,How does somebody's join date have anything at all to do with there opinion or view on a topic? For all you know, i could of been viewing these forums without registering, Lots of people do that. You sir, are a moron.

[FARGOpokerND 22]

i have to say.....this has provided me with a VERY entertaining few hours for me at 4am here. good way to pass the time til morning comes! props to all the idiots who liven the entertainment value. yes i believe, glitches happen. this one just somehow seems to be a previously undiscovered (or un mentioned more likely) error that now has been discovered and will now be properly categorized?

[ChunkyLuver69 0]

I dont know if anyone posted this already or not but if you look on the pictures 2 of the people are chatting...while they are chatting the dealer responds to a handthe next picture it shows the same chat but there is no space in between where the dealer would talk about the handso basically this is more proof that this guy is a liar for some unknown reason and this probably shouldnt be 21 pages long

[closetwin 0]

Umm. i dont know what this is?.  what do u mean by this response?. I hope you know i'm a pretty big deal.

heheheheh...haha...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.Modest, ain't you?

[Spademan 94]

No I wasnt there, but I think spademan said he was watching earlier and he didnt get anything right.  I really dont feel like wading through the past pages looking for it though.

I honestly don't know if I saw him call any wrong.I stopped paying attention and started nutbaring after I saw him call a couple after the cards came and without suit, when he claimed it was working, and just before it mysteriously stopped.

[Loismustdie 0]

Jist the fist- I have lurked since the beginning of this thing and yes just started posting- but it seems like generally this is believed to be some sort of anamoly- that is all I have really said to Tritz- I have no doubt that you are a respected poster ( Who the F are you ), and I really appreciate your point of view ( could not care less what this fisting clown thinks of me) , but I am going to have to tell you that you are way off base here- I have not even started being all I can be on this forum yet, only real thing I have contributed is my tourney winning thread ( Where the F have you been Jist? ), but that will all change soon when I start the I pooped on Jist the Fist front seat thread. Not as satisfying as WINNING TOURNEYS, ( You Fing loser ) but since I need to take a dump, it will have to do.

[PrtyPSux 0]

Umm. i dont know what this is?.  what do u mean by this response?. I hope you know i'm a pretty big deal.and your pretty much just a douche bag.Oh for your information, there is theis forum called neverwin poker, its great for people like you. seriously. a real site and forum.Lots ouf douches on it., Youd  fit right in..

if this was directed to lee jones' post I would have laughed so hard I would have peed my pants....of course Im drunk so it doesnt take much to make me pee my pants, but it would have still been funny.

[CrazyJoe 0]

Did nodody notice what dmb21 posted?? Here is an enlarged pic of the original "phantom flop"... with inconsistent spacing.Here is an enlarged pic of a normal flop that has very consistent spacingconclusion, the "phantom" flop wasnt put there by pokerpal, it was an underhanded 3rd party.

[lifelessimp 0]

conclusion, the "phantom" flop wasnt put there by pokerpal, it was an underhanded 3rd party.

No, you're just plain wrong. I wrote this earlier when the topic was first brought up.the font is MS Sans Serif. If you go into photoshop and use the text tool to type out 9sJcAs (or w/e the hand was) without spaces, you will see that the text is actually exactly like this. It is 100% consistent with the other text. Dead issue. There is NO EVIDENCE that these pictures have been edited.

[PoppinFresh 0]

conclusion, the "phantom" flop wasnt put there by pokerpal, it was an underhanded 3rd party.

No, you're just plain wrong. I wrote this earlier when the topic was first brought up.the font is MS Sans Serif. If you go into photoshop and use the text tool to type out 9sJcAs (or w/e the hand was) without spaces, you will see that the text is actually exactly like this. It is 100% consistent with the other text. Dead issue. There is NO EVIDENCE that these pictures have been edited.

Wait, so you're saying that someone typed out the cards in photoshop?

[forumjp 0]

i wonder if daniel will take a look at these 20 some pages~

[bascomeb 0]

Umm. i dont know what this is?.  what do u mean by this response?. I hope you know i'm a pretty big deal.

Hahahahaa wow he says he's a pretty big deal at a forum. Does this guy have a life?

[Smasharoo 0]

He's a liar.The likelyhood of him not being a liar is roughlt equivilent to being hit by a comet, every day, for a month.

[bascomeb 0]

He's a liar.The likelyhood of him not being a liar is roughlt equivilent to being hit by a comet, every day, for a month.

A 30 day month or 31 day month? Or maybe February? Or maybe February with a leap year?

[Smasharoo 0]

Liar, liar, liar.Filthy pathetic liar.