gogetumpoker 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Daniel, don't waste your time on this guy, he sounds nutso! You are better then these type of guys and he will just bring you down. Ignore him I would say.http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.gambling...d4ff6956e24fcf5If this has been posted before, i apologize in advance! Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Interesting, but, I don't think it's entirely relevant.Kinda doubting Neverwin(Dustin Woolf) sits at the table with DN for their match without first having bought in. Dustin also won, I believe, 503k at this year's WSOP. Even if he was backed, substantially, he's got a bit of money to kick around. Link to post Share on other sites
Sudden14 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Interesting, but, I don't think it's entirely relevant.Kinda doubting Neverwin(Dustin Woolf) sits at the table with DN for their match without first having bought in. Dustin also won, I believe, 503k at this year's WSOP. Even if he was backed, substantially, he's got a bit of money to kick around.If they play for 200k.. he'll be "kicking around" the majority of his bankroll, unless he gets backers again for the match. I find it funny that he says "you have my number.. give me a time" when hes the challenger. Almost like he's avoiding setting up a real match through Travis. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 If they play for 200k.. he'll be "kicking around" the majority of his bankroll, unless he gets backers again for the match. I find it funny that he says "you have my number.. give me a time" when hes the challenger. Almost like he's avoiding setting up a real match through Travis.As far as his bankroll, I don't know of anyone who can really come up with an accurate number.If another thread was true, he lost 190k last night playing 300/600. If you're able to take a hit of 190k to your bank roll, it'd stand to reason you could put up another 200k. From there, we can deduce his bankroll is in the million dollar range, or he's playing WAY over his bankroll.If you go read that post from 2+2 that's somewhere here in general, you can learn a lot about this guy's mindframe.Talented? No doubt. Does he handle money real well? Eh..from everything we know? Not so much. As far as DN ducking his challenge, purely ridiculous. If I issue you a challenge, it's not my responsibility to come track you down to hammer out the details. All in all, this thing is starting to spin out of control, as far as hype.Sure hope it lives up to it. Link to post Share on other sites
Egarim 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 That's pretty shady stuff...Too much ego, too small a bankroll.My guess is he's waiting to play dn heads up for 200k since that's a big chunk of his bankroll. I'm sure he's trying to accumulate money so he has the bankroll to take that hit if he loses. I highly doubt he has more than a million dollar bankroll (keep in mind bankroll doesn't include houses, cars, etc. and even though he won a lot at the wsop this yr, u have to note the fact that no one deducts his buyins in tourneys he didn't cash in or lossses in cash games). Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 That's pretty shady stuff...Too much ego, too small a bankroll.My guess is he's waiting to play dn heads up for 200k since that's a big chunk of his bankroll. I'm sure he's trying to accumulate money so he has the bankroll to take that hit if he loses. I highly doubt he has more than a million dollar bankroll (keep in mind bankroll doesn't include houses, cars, etc. and even though he won a lot at the wsop this yr, u have to note the fact that no one deducts his buyins in tourneys he didn't cash in or lossses in cash games).While the above is true, it doesn't take into account his winnings in cash games. We heard about Dustin's thumping Matusow for around 100k not too long ago, did we not?I'd say it's pretty safe to assume that he's going to be staked, somewhere in the 50-100k neighborhood.I'm sure he could put up the entire amount on his own, but I don't know that it'd be a real bright idea on his behalf.In all, I'm not trying to defend Dustin's wanting to play DN heads up. I don't think it's a real +EV move to be flipping coins for a substantial percentage of your bankroll. Link to post Share on other sites
chaosnhavoc 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 If hes so good, why not the full 500k... Come on Neverwin dont waste Daniels time..Daniel, Make him change his name if he loses to Alwayswhine Link to post Share on other sites
Socko669 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I believe there was a post awhile ago in which Neverwin was talking about getting 50k stakes to play DN heads up...now I think he took home around 500k from the WSOP, but i have heard more about his big losses than big wins. Granted, im sure there's been playing of sessions i havent heard of through the internet poker rumor mill. Anyways, it seems to me like the 200k would be a substantial amount of his bankroll considering he was trying to build up stakes for it just a couple of months ago. The point? Um, Neverwin is a doucheclown...yeah, thats it. Link to post Share on other sites
dereeekho 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 hmmm. kinda funny. i'm reading this thread and then i see neverwin is begging for money from chipmovr on stars. shady, eh? Link to post Share on other sites
arerad 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Dustin just took a brutal beating the past hour on pokerstars....... Link to post Share on other sites
bmwmcoupe 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 How is he going to play daniel for 500k if he doesnt even have enough money to play on stars Link to post Share on other sites
number1DNfan 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 How is he going to play daniel for 500k if he doesnt even have enough money to play on starslol crackin me up. Link to post Share on other sites
captnwmkidd 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 He is in a no limit HU sit n go right now: PokerStars#11203752$5000 + $100 Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 He is in a no limit HU sit n go right now: PokerStars#11203752$5000 + $100My god.How can his opponent afford 5k? He's just getting run over. Link to post Share on other sites
captnwmkidd 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Yeah that was over way too quick...Neverwin picked him apart in no time flatFools and their money, they say...............Then neverwin took the 10 grand and went back to the 100/200 tables and split it between two tables. Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Now he's playing Nam Lee, Tuans brother 5k SnG. Link to post Share on other sites
captnwmkidd 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Now he's playing t saprano 5k SnGdidnt t saprano cash at the wsop ME? Link to post Share on other sites
PFunk 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Just curious...When you cats talk about "staking" a player, is this generally seen as a deal for someone to front the money for them to play with, and should they lose it generally not have to pay it back in the full amount, if any at all, therefore being seen as a gamble and possible investment to the person fronting the stake....Or is it generally more times then none _always_ expected to be paid back in full when someone stakes a player for a match such as this.....I have a rule about gambling away with money I do not have to begin with so I find this hard to understand if someone doesnt have the bankroll to play so big as in this case, why would they want to or anyone else want to make this move.......unless you just go bad, and a friend is there to help you get up, I would be hard pressed to play with money I dont own, particularly ALOT of money I dont have.Im sure deals will vary and what not depending on the situation, relationship, money etc etc....But just curious about it- Link to post Share on other sites
bmwmcoupe 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 who is soprano Link to post Share on other sites
CJHunt 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 It is typically option number one pfunk Link to post Share on other sites
captnwmkidd 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 T saprano wins HU 5k SnG against neverwin in 36 minutes Link to post Share on other sites
loxo 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Soprano won!! Link to post Share on other sites
PFunk 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 It is typically option number one pfunkOk, thanks...So not have to pay back in full unless they win? Link to post Share on other sites
bmwmcoupe 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 who is soprano Link to post Share on other sites
captnwmkidd 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Saprano is Andrew Parker.He cashed in the WSOP ME. I think he got around 24k for 288th place Dont know if he had any other cashes at the WSOPNeverwin got 274k for 32nd place in ME Link to post Share on other sites
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