no limit versus limit - striclty money making.....

[mavthrill 0]

I have started playing for money online again after a little abscence to clear my head. So, I am used to playing NLHE, thats what I always did for my ring games. But instead I have been playing more limit and find that I am making more money consistently. ****If you are a better player than the game, is Limit better to play since you control your varience and just grind away a profit.***My varience was very high when I played NLHE because I would put my entire stack in with AK versus AQ on a flop of A,x,x. Only to see a guy spike a queen. Now I have gone bust. What do the experts think about this?? Also, how much is a good profit (number of BB's) per hour in a limit game???

[jayboogie 0]

most pro players will play limit, because as you stated, the variance isn't as big of a factor, if you get rivered, you don't lose your entire buy-in. Of course, you won't win as much in a session as you potentially could in No Limit, but you also usually won't lose as much as you could either.

[HelloimRyan 0]

As it is stated in super/system about limit holdem...its like a job the more you play the more money you make.

[Smasharoo 0]

Honestly, limit where is where the money is, you get more opportunites to exploit small edges and you have better visability in terms of profit margin.I'm sure you can make money playing NL too, probably lots of money, but the occasional 8 buy in down swing in NL will tend to rattle some people.

[mavthrill 0]

Thats what I mean. I have played the past 4 nights, ( I know that this is not a huge sample group, probably 1000 hands)I have not been overwhelmed with my cards but it feels like I am beating the other players slowly but surely.And plus, when I put up some of my bankroll in NL nd I get rivered it tends to rattle me.

[Smasharoo 0]

And plus, when I put up some of my bankroll in NL nd I get rivered it tends to rattle me.Stick with limit. There's plenty of money in limit. You can become a millionare just as quickly playing limit as NL.

[Jordan 1]

Honestly, limit where is where the money is, you get more opportunites to exploit small edges and you have better visability in terms of profit margin.I'm sure you can make money playing NL too, probably lots of money, but the occasional 8 buy in down swing in NL will tend to rattle some people.

Very true. But the juicy no limit games are hard to beat. My friend made $750 last night riding AA and KK all night thanks to a very loose no limit game. This of course could have been negative if he would have been outdrawn 4/5 times he picked up those hands, but that night they held.I prefer playing no limit ring games as to limit games. I try to stick within my bankroll and that helps ease the unfortunate beats that do happen from time to time.Good luck bro.- Jordan

[AceOfSpaiDs 0]

limit is all about building pots where as No Limit the pot can get huge at anytime...limit wont allow you to go broke as fast as the swings in NL do (like when your top 10 suddenly knocked out...that won't happen in limit)

[Mandelbrot 0]

Honestly, limit is where the money is

I make much more money more quickly playing NL.

[Smasharoo 0]

I make much more money more quickly playing NL.No you don't.You make money in bigger chunks and lose it in bigger chunks.It seems like you're making more money, but you're not.I make money in bigger chunks playing one 10/20 table than I do 4 tabling 3/6 but I make a lot more money over time at 3/6.

[Mandelbrot 0]

No you don't.You make money in bigger chunks and lose it in bigger chunks.

No, I lose about the same and win much more.

[Smasharoo 0]

No, I lose about the same and win much more.No, I really don't think you do.Hit me with some stats about what you're talking about specifically.

[Mandelbrot 0]

In NL, it's easier to exploit weaknesses in other players' games - one mistake can cost them a lot. It's also much easier to prevent bad beats from draws - unlike in Limit where players are protected by the betting caps. The result is, consistent players can win more and lose less. This has been my experience at least.

[KenP 0]

Hey Smash...Have you always been this arrogant?You just said this fellow is telling lies! What is your basis? I would never try to prove anything based simply on my experience.

[Smasharoo 0]

In NL, it's easier to exploit weaknesses in other players' games - one mistake can cost them a lot. It's also much easier to prevent bad beats from draws - unlike in Limit where players are protected by the betting caps. The result is, consistent players can win more and lose less. This has been my experience at least.Throw some numbers at me.What's your winrate in terms of big blinds per 100 hands in NL over 10,000 hands or so?

[Smasharoo 0]

Hey Smash...Have you always been this arrogant?Yes. When I was born I slapped to doctor for not wearing matching gloves and told him he was a fool.

[TeeSludge 0]

I have found limit online play to be much easier for me than NL online play. I play NL live 2-3 times a week in AC but when I play it online it is much harder for me to focus and be able to really pay attention to my opponents. Playing 6 handed 2/4 I have had a much easier time paying attention due to the lack of opponents and the relatively easy game.

[Mandelbrot 0]

I do agree that NL is harder to play.

[Smasharoo 0]

I think NL is EASIER to play online actually.Boring as hell against bad players, but easy.

[Mandelbrot 0]

How so? B/c I think there's a bit too much crack in that pipe your avatar is smoking.

[Smasharoo 0]

How so? B/c I think there's a bit too much crack in that pipe your avatar is smoking.How is it easier?Much more clear cut decisions. Exploiting large edges for a lot of money instead of consistently pushing small edges.Etc.NL against very good players is hard.NL against bad players is so much easier to play than limit it's amazing.Someone who's never seen a deck of cards can become good at low limit NL in about a week. Not so of limit.

[TeeSludge 0]

The problem I have with playing NL online is simply my inability to focus on the game in front of me. I have a much easier time seeing a player's weaknesses and using my strengths to exploit them in live games.

[Smasharoo 0]

The problem I have with playing NL online is simply my inability to focus on the game in front of me. I have a much easier time seeing a player's weaknesses and using my strengths to exploit them in live games.A lot of people have that problem. Try multitabling, ther's alot more decisions to keep you focused. Of course you can lose a lot of money quickly if that doesn't help.

[justblaze 0]

How so? B/c I think there's a bit too much crack in that pipe your avatar is smoking.

I think you are refusing to provide him with numbers that suggest otherwise, probably because you dont have the numbers, or you do have them and know that he is right. I agree NL online is ridiculously easy but a big grind. Players have no idea how to bet, and often bet far too much or too little. It's all about waiting and waiting for that enourmous edge and pushing it hard. You cant push small edges because the variance is too high without the betting cap. In NL, it's easier to exploit weaknesses in other players' games - one mistake can cost them a lot. It's also much easier to prevent bad beats from draws - unlike in Limit where players are protected by the betting caps. The result is, consistent players can win more and lose less. This has been my experience at least. This statement is very misguided. It is actually much more dangerous to exploit weaknesses in other's games. The reason is that one suckout can cost you a ton of money, allowing less chance for the mathematical probabilities to kick in. In limit, conversely, you can exploit the same edges over and over again for much less risk, allowing the math to kick in and a good player to assure himself of a profit. And to call players hitting draws 'bad beats' is simply ignorant. If i have 910 and you have AKo, and the flop is A 3 4 , and i hit my spade draw on the turn, this is a bad beat? you are marginally ahead preflop and flop, and drawing dead on the turn. Boo hoo, what a terrible thing to happen. Its called poker bro, and if you expect to win every time you have an edge you are in for a surprise.

[fluxer 0]

Bad no limit players will go broke long before bad limit players. Where do you think all the money goes?