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I have had the worst luck since I signed up with this site. AK beat by A8...I don't even want to go into all the second best hands and suckouts. Does anyone actually make money at this place. I can understand if my luck is just bad and the cards will turn the other way soon. But I made alot of money at pokerstars, and I just don't have the confidence to say the same about pp. Im rambling im so ****ing pissed right now.Anyone actually make money here??

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Wow. I've played with you several times at Stars and know you to be a good, solid player. That just sounds like some bad luck or something. I agree with Smash, though. Post a few hands and maybe someone can see a leak or something.Chin up, my brother.

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When I was playing 1/2, I actually lost my 40 dollar buy-in 4 sessions in a row. Might have won 4 pots. I probably pissed some of that away, but not too much was frustration/tilt-loss. Just happens, man. Keep rocking, rolling, and objectively evaluating your play and you'll turn it around. But don't start making excuses for yourself. If you play better than everyone else, you'll win. Just make sure you're making the best play, playing your A game, all the time. Good luck, Ice

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***** Hand History for Game 1465080844 *****0.5/1 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Thu Jan 20 17:34:12 EST 2005Table Table 12917 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the buttonTotal number of players : 8Seat 1: PTMustang ( $13)Seat 2: goldtoe4556 ( $21.5)Seat 3: MadRusski ( $39)Seat 4: GOGIRL623 ( $14)Seat 6: TimiFu ( $7.75)Seat 7: DECostin ( $10.5)Seat 8: DeweyFree ( $31.75)Seat 10: LionelLark ( $27)MadRusski posts small blind (0.25)GOGIRL623 posts big blind (0.5)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Ts, Jh ] TimiFu folds.DECostin folds.DeweyFree folds.LionelLark folds.PTMustang folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1MadRusski calls (0.75)GOGIRL623 calls (0.5)** Dealing Flop ** : [ Th, 9c, Ac ] MadRusski bets (0.5)GOGIRL623 folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1MadRusski calls (0.5)** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jd ] MadRusski checks.goldtoe4556 bets (1)MadRusski calls (1)** Dealing River ** : [ Ad ] MadRusski checks.goldtoe4556 checks.** Summary **Main Pot: $6.5 | Rake: $0.5Board: [ Th 9c Ac Jd Ad ]PTMustang balance $13, didn't bet (folded)goldtoe4556 balance $18.5, lost $3 [ Ts Jh ] [ two pairs, aces and jacks -- Ac,Ad,Jh,Jd,Ts ]MadRusski balance $42.5, bet $3, collected $6.5, net +$3.5 [ 7s As ] [ three of a kind, aces -- As,Ac,Ad,Jd,Th ]GOGIRL623 balance $13, lost $1 (folded) TimiFu balance $7.75, didn't bet (folded)DECostin balance $10.5, didn't bet (folded)DeweyFree balance $31.75, didn't bet (folded)Not the best play...I admit I was getting frustrated.** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Qh, Ac ] rknapton folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1dawgris folds.Wishn4Fishn calls (1)SomeKid85 folds.fourfIush folds.hackamo raises (1.5) to 1.5keembot folds.MuckStick calls (1)goldtoe4556 calls (0.5)Wishn4Fishn calls (0.5)** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, 4d, 2h ] MuckStick checks.goldtoe4556 checks.Wishn4Fishn checks.hackamo bets (0.5)MuckStick folds.goldtoe4556 calls (0.5)Wishn4Fishn calls (0.5)** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6s ] goldtoe4556 checks.Wishn4Fishn checks.hackamo bets (1)goldtoe4556 folds.Wishn4Fishn raises (2) to 2hackamo calls (1)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Js, Td ] jump1 calls (0.5)Bourbonite folds.goldtoe4556 folds.swingsterz folds.NinjaSeale folds.jeter_fan checks.I_got_82 calls (0.5)RHINOWDH calls (0.25)testzz raises (0.5) to 1jump1 calls (0.5)jeter_fan folds.I_got_82 calls (0.5)RHINOWDH folds.I don't play garbage up front.** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Ks, Kd ] goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1swingsterz folds.NinjaSeale folds.tim_da_pimp folds.jeter_fan folds.I_got_82 calls (1)RHINOWDH folds.testzz folds.jump1 raises (1.25) to 1.5Bourbonite folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 2I_got_82 calls (1)jump1 calls (0.5)** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, Kh, Ts ] jump1 checks.goldtoe4556 bets (0.5)I_got_82 calls (0.5)jump1 calls (0.5)** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7s ] jump1 checks.goldtoe4556 bets (1)I_got_82 folds.jump1 calls (1)** Dealing River ** : [ 6s ] jump1 bets (1)goldtoe4556 calls (1)** Summary **Main Pot: $11.25 | Rake: $0.75Board: [ 8d Kh Ts 7s 6s ]goldtoe4556 balance $21.5, lost $4.5 [ Ks Kd ] [ three of a kind, kings -- Ks,Kd,Kh,Ts,8d ]swingsterz balance $37.5, didn't bet (folded)NinjaSeale balance $27.75, didn't bet (folded)tim_da_pimp balance $24, didn't bet (folded)jeter_fan balance $7, didn't bet (folded)I_got_82 balance $32.38, lost $2.5 (folded) RHINOWDH balance $16.37, didn't bet (folded)testzz balance $20, didn't bet (folded)jump1 balance $20.25, bet $4.5, collected $11.25, net +$6.75 [ Js As ] [ a flush, ace high -- As,Js,Ts,7s,6s ]Bourbonite balance $32, lost $0.5 (folded) Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Qd, Ts ] fourfIush folds.Tonythirteen calls (0.5)hackamo calls (0.5)keembot raises (1) to 1MuckStick folds.goldtoe4556 folds.dawgris calls (0.75)Wishn4Fishn folds.Tonythirteen calls (0.5)hackamo calls (0.5)** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 4d, Qs ] dawgris checks.Tonythirteen checks.hackamo checks.keembot bets (0.5)dawgris folds.Tonythirteen calls (0.5)hackamo folds.** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5d ] Tonythirteen checks.keembot bets (1)Tonythirteen folds.** Summary **It's rigged!! :roll: ** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Tc, Th ] Bourbonite folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1swingsterz folds.NinjaSeale calls (1)I_got_82 folds.RHINOWDH folds.testzz folds.** Dealing Flop ** : [ As, 3d, 4h ] goldtoe4556 bets (0.5)NinjaSeale raises (1) to 1goldtoe4556 calls (0.5)** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5d ] goldtoe4556 checks.NinjaSeale bets (1)goldtoe4556 folds.** Summary **Was I right to lead out here? And the fold on the turn...correct?** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ 8s, 9c ] swingsterz folds.NinjaSeale folds.gobluesparky checks.I_got_82 calls (0.5)RHINOWDH calls (0.5)testzz folds.treetop100 folds.Bourbonite folds.goldtoe4556 checks.** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2d, 3h, Js ] goldtoe4556 checks.gobluesparky checks.I_got_82 checks.RHINOWDH checks.** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9h ] goldtoe4556 bets (1)gobluesparky calls (1)I_got_82 calls (1)RHINOWDH folds.** Dealing River ** : [ Jc ] goldtoe4556 bets (1)gobluesparky calls (1)I_got_82 folds.** Summary **Main Pot: $6.75 | Rake: $0.5Board: [ 2d 3h Js 9h Jc ]goldtoe4556 balance $26.75, lost $2.5 [ 8s 9c ] [ two pairs, jacks and nines -- Js,Jc,9c,9h,8s ]swingsterz balance $33, didn't bet (folded)NinjaSeale balance $31.25, didn't bet (folded)gobluesparky balance $29.25, bet $2.5, collected $6.75, net +$4.25 [ 9d Qd ] [ two pairs, jacks and nines with queen kicker -- Qd,Js,Jc,9d,9h ]I_got_82 balance $30.38, lost $1.5 (folded) RHINOWDH balance $14.12, lost $0.5 (folded) testzz balance $24.5, didn't bet (folded)treetop100 balance $50.75, didn't bet (folded)Bourbonite balance $25, lost $0.25 (folded)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ As, Jd ] ksgame folds.Tonythirteen calls (0.5)hackamo folds.keembot folds.bobbygig calls (0.5)ken1970 folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1dawgris raises (1.25) to 1.5gumbyhead calls (1)Tonythirteen calls (1)bobbygig calls (1)goldtoe4556 calls (0.5)** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7h, 4s, 7s ] dawgris bets (0.5)gumbyhead calls (0.5)Tonythirteen calls (0.5)bobbygig calls (0.5)goldtoe4556 calls (0.5)** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jh ] dawgris bets (1)gumbyhead folds.Tonythirteen calls (1)bobbygig calls (1)goldtoe4556 calls (1)** Dealing River ** : [ 8h ] dawgris checks.Tonythirteen checks.bobbygig checks.goldtoe4556 checks.** Summary **Main Pot: $13.25 | Rake: $0.75Board: [ 7h 4s 7s Jh 8h ]goldtoe4556 balance $9.25, lost $3 [ As Jd ] [ two pairs, jacks and sevens -- As,Jd,Jh,7h,7s ]dawgris balance $36, bet $3, collected $13.25, net +$10.25 [ Qs Qh ] [ two pairs, queens and sevens -- Qs,Qh,Jh,7h,7s ]gumbyhead balance $14.5, lost $2 (folded) ksgame balance $15.5, didn't bet (folded)aphextwin83 balance $25, sits outTonythirteen balance $11.37, lost $3 [ 9s Ks ] [ a pair of sevens -- Ks,Jh,9s,7h,7s ]hackamo balance $25.13, didn't bet (folded)keembot balance $21.25, didn't bet (folded)bobbygig balance $24, lost $3 [ 9c 8d ] [ two pairs, eights and sevens -- Jh,8d,8h,7h,7s ]ken1970 balance $22.5, didn't bet (folded)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Kc, As ] bobbygig calls (0.5)ken1970 folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1dawgris folds.luxlogs folds.ksgame folds.aphextwin83 folds.Tonythirteen calls (1)hackamo calls (0.75)keembot folds.bobbygig calls (0.5)** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ac, Jc, 8h ] hackamo checks.bobbygig checks.goldtoe4556 bets (0.5)Tonythirteen calls (0.5)hackamo calls (0.5)bobbygig calls (0.5)** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9d ] hackamo checks.bobbygig bets (1)goldtoe4556 calls (1)Tonythirteen folds.hackamo calls (1)** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ] hackamo checks.bobbygig checks.goldtoe4556 checks.** Summary **Main Pot: $9 | Rake: $0.5Board: [ Ac Jc 8h 9d Qd ]goldtoe4556 balance $9.75, lost $2.5 [ Kc As ] [ a pair of aces -- As,Ac,Kc,Qd,Jc ]dawgris balance $34, didn't bet (folded)luxlogs balance $23, didn't bet (folded)ksgame balance $15, didn't bet (folded)aphextwin83 balance $28.5, didn't bet (folded)Tonythirteen balance $6.87, lost $1.5 (folded) hackamo balance $33.13, bet $2.5, collected $9, net +$6.5 [ 8d Ah ] [ two pairs, aces and eights -- Ah,Ac,Qd,8d,8h ]keembot balance $19.25, lost $0.5 (folded) bobbygig balance $21, lost $2.5 [ 8s 9c ] [ two pairs, nines and eights -- Ac,9c,9d,8s,8h ]ken1970 balance $22.5, didn't bet (folded)There's a few. hahahaha.

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Well I play on Party, and yes, it's the most frustrating thing ever. I haven't gone on a streak that bad, mainly because I try to stop it before It gets too huge, I'll switch the game up, do something. BUT... something I have noticed after I got through about a week long bad run, is that I wasn't playing my game, because I was so frustrated. I started to play K9 and crap hands that I know I shouldn't play... but I didn't even realize it till I was cooled off and sat down and wrote out the starting hands I need to be playing. I went and wrote them out, said.. ok, this is it! Then realized I had been on like perma-tilt and never even knew it. Luckily my biggest downswing hasn't been more than $150 (from 400 or 250)... And tried to correct it. It works somewhat... but I tried SnG's for awhile and had success there... then won a big tournament... and figured the SnG's would be a breeze... tried a couple, and lost them all. lol! Don't know what happened.... only about 3 or 4 really. So I gave PL $25 a shot again... because a month or so ago I had lost a few buy-ins fairly quickly and thought maybe it wasn't my game.... Well I had about 3 sessions in a row where I was up... one losing session... and then yesterday and today left up 30 and 25 again. So now I'm rambling and probably not helping anymore.... I don't have much solution... but I found, even though the play still sucks in the PL or NL rooms... You can protect a hand better, and make them pay for trying to suck out. I won a $60 pot yesterday because someone re-raised me 20 something with KQ and an AJ on the board, looking for a 10.... Well I had AK and took his whole stack and someone elses who was all in pre-flop. Sometimes the dumb players will pay you off, and in those rooms it's worth it more.Blah blah, i'm done now.

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**** Hand History for Game 1465080844 *****0.5/1 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Thu Jan 20 17:34:12 EST 2005Table Table 12917 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the buttonTotal number of players : 8Seat 1: PTMustang ( $13)Seat 2: goldtoe4556 ( $21.5)Seat 3: MadRusski ( $39)Seat 4: GOGIRL623 ( $14)Seat 6: TimiFu ( $7.75)Seat 7: DECostin ( $10.5)Seat 8: DeweyFree ( $31.75)Seat 10: LionelLark ( $27)MadRusski posts small blind (0.25)GOGIRL623 posts big blind (0.5)** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Ts, Jh ]TimiFu folds.DECostin folds.DeweyFree folds.LionelLark folds.PTMustang folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1MadRusski calls (0.75)GOGIRL623 calls (0.5)** Dealing Flop ** : [ Th, 9c, Ac ]MadRusski bets (0.5)GOGIRL623 folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1MadRusski calls (0.5)** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jd ]MadRusski checks.goldtoe4556 bets (1)MadRusski calls (1)** Dealing River ** : [ Ad ]MadRusski checks.goldtoe4556 checks.** Summary **Main Pot: $6.5 | Rake: $0.5Board: [ Th 9c Ac Jd Ad ]PTMustang balance $13, didn't bet (folded)goldtoe4556 balance $18.5, lost $3 [ Ts Jh ] [ two pairs, aces and jacks -- Ac,Ad,Jh,Jd,Ts ]MadRusski balance $42.5, bet $3, collected $6.5, net +$3.5 [ 7s As ] [ three of a kind, aces -- As,Ac,Ad,Jd,Th ]GOGIRL623 balance $13, lost $1 (folded)TimiFu balance $7.75, didn't bet (folded)DECostin balance $10.5, didn't bet (folded)DeweyFree balance $31.75, didn't bet (folded)Not the best play...I admit I was getting frustrated.Well, it's agressive.It's really not that bad. The flop raise isn't great, the button raise is fine, the turn is fine. I probably fold the river in a pot this size. Withthe pair on board even a better jack beats your two pair.** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Qh, Ac ]rknapton folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1dawgris folds.Wishn4Fishn calls (1)SomeKid85 folds.fourfIush folds.hackamo raises (1.5) to 1.5keembot folds.MuckStick calls (1)goldtoe4556 calls (0.5)Wishn4Fishn calls (0.5)** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, 4d, 2h ]MuckStick checks.goldtoe4556 checks.Wishn4Fishn checks.hackamo bets (0.5)MuckStick folds.goldtoe4556 calls (0.5)Wishn4Fishn calls (0.5)** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6s ]goldtoe4556 checks.Wishn4Fishn checks.hackamo bets (1)goldtoe4556 folds.Wishn4Fishn raises (2) to 2hackamo calls (1)Fine.** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Js, Td ]jump1 calls (0.5)Bourbonite folds.goldtoe4556 folds.swingsterz folds.NinjaSeale folds.jeter_fan checks.I_got_82 calls (0.5)RHINOWDH calls (0.25)testzz raises (0.5) to 1jump1 calls (0.5)jeter_fan folds.I_got_82 calls (0.5)RHINOWDH folds.I don't play garbage up front.Fine.** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Ks, Kd ]goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1swingsterz folds.NinjaSeale folds.tim_da_pimp folds.jeter_fan folds.I_got_82 calls (1)RHINOWDH folds.testzz folds.jump1 raises (1.25) to 1.5Bourbonite folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 2I_got_82 calls (1)jump1 calls (0.5)** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, Kh, Ts ]jump1 checks.goldtoe4556 bets (0.5)I_got_82 calls (0.5)jump1 calls (0.5)** Dealing Turn ** : [ 7s ]jump1 checks.goldtoe4556 bets (1)I_got_82 folds.jump1 calls (1)** Dealing River ** : [ 6s ]jump1 bets (1)goldtoe4556 calls (1)** Summary **Main Pot: $11.25 | Rake: $0.75Board: [ 8d Kh Ts 7s 6s ]goldtoe4556 balance $21.5, lost $4.5 [ Ks Kd ] [ three of a kind, kings -- Ks,Kd,Kh,Ts,8d ]swingsterz balance $37.5, didn't bet (folded)NinjaSeale balance $27.75, didn't bet (folded)tim_da_pimp balance $24, didn't bet (folded)jeter_fan balance $7, didn't bet (folded)I_got_82 balance $32.38, lost $2.5 (folded)RHINOWDH balance $16.37, didn't bet (folded)testzz balance $20, didn't bet (folded)jump1 balance $20.25, bet $4.5, collected $11.25, net +$6.75 [ Js As ] [ a flush, ace high -- As,Js,Ts,7s,6s ]Bourbonite balance $32, lost $0.5 (folded)Bad beat.Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Qd, Ts ]fourfIush folds.Tonythirteen calls (0.5)hackamo calls (0.5)keembot raises (1) to 1MuckStick folds.goldtoe4556 folds.dawgris calls (0.75)Wishn4Fishn folds.Tonythirteen calls (0.5)hackamo calls (0.5)** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qc, 4d, Qs ]dawgris checks.Tonythirteen checks.hackamo checks.keembot bets (0.5)dawgris folds.Tonythirteen calls (0.5)hackamo folds.** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5d ]Tonythirteen checks.keembot bets (1)Tonythirteen folds.** Summary **It's rigged!! Rolling EyesHaha.You have to make that fold.** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Tc, Th ]Bourbonite folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1swingsterz folds.NinjaSeale calls (1)I_got_82 folds.RHINOWDH folds.testzz folds.** Dealing Flop ** : [ As, 3d, 4h ]goldtoe4556 bets (0.5)NinjaSeale raises (1) to 1goldtoe4556 calls (0.5)** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5d ]goldtoe4556 checks.NinjaSeale bets (1)goldtoe4556 folds.** Summary **Was I right to lead out here? And the fold on the turn...correct?Yes, and I fold to the flop raise. It's hard, but I do it. Most of the time. When I don't I know I should have. ** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ 8s, 9c ]swingsterz folds.NinjaSeale folds.gobluesparky checks.I_got_82 calls (0.5)RHINOWDH calls (0.5)testzz folds.treetop100 folds.Bourbonite folds.goldtoe4556 checks.** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2d, 3h, Js ]goldtoe4556 checks.gobluesparky checks.I_got_82 checks.RHINOWDH checks.** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9h ]goldtoe4556 bets (1)gobluesparky calls (1)I_got_82 calls (1)RHINOWDH folds.** Dealing River ** : [ Jc ]goldtoe4556 bets (1)gobluesparky calls (1)I_got_82 folds.** Summary **Main Pot: $6.75 | Rake: $0.5Board: [ 2d 3h Js 9h Jc ]goldtoe4556 balance $26.75, lost $2.5 [ 8s 9c ] [ two pairs, jacks and nines -- Js,Jc,9c,9h,8s ]swingsterz balance $33, didn't bet (folded)NinjaSeale balance $31.25, didn't bet (folded)gobluesparky balance $29.25, bet $2.5, collected $6.75, net +$4.25 [ 9d Qd ] [ two pairs, jacks and nines with queen kicker -- Qd,Js,Jc,9d,9h ]I_got_82 balance $30.38, lost $1.5 (folded)RHINOWDH balance $14.12, lost $0.5 (folded)testzz balance $24.5, didn't bet (folded)treetop100 balance $50.75, didn't bet (folded)Bourbonite balance $25, lost $0.25 (folded)Happens.** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ As, Jd ]ksgame folds.Tonythirteen calls (0.5)hackamo folds.keembot folds.bobbygig calls (0.5)ken1970 folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1dawgris raises (1.25) to 1.5gumbyhead calls (1)Tonythirteen calls (1)bobbygig calls (1)goldtoe4556 calls (0.5)** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7h, 4s, 7s ]dawgris bets (0.5)gumbyhead calls (0.5)Tonythirteen calls (0.5)bobbygig calls (0.5)goldtoe4556 calls (0.5)** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jh ]dawgris bets (1)gumbyhead folds.Tonythirteen calls (1)bobbygig calls (1)goldtoe4556 calls (1)** Dealing River ** : [ 8h ]dawgris checks.Tonythirteen checks.bobbygig checks.goldtoe4556 checks.** Summary **Main Pot: $13.25 | Rake: $0.75Board: [ 7h 4s 7s Jh 8h ]goldtoe4556 balance $9.25, lost $3 [ As Jd ] [ two pairs, jacks and sevens -- As,Jd,Jh,7h,7s ]dawgris balance $36, bet $3, collected $13.25, net +$10.25 [ Qs Qh ] [ two pairs, queens and sevens -- Qs,Qh,Jh,7h,7s ]gumbyhead balance $14.5, lost $2 (folded)ksgame balance $15.5, didn't bet (folded)aphextwin83 balance $25, sits outTonythirteen balance $11.37, lost $3 [ 9s Ks ] [ a pair of sevens -- Ks,Jh,9s,7h,7s ]hackamo balance $25.13, didn't bet (folded)keembot balance $21.25, didn't bet (folded)bobbygig balance $24, lost $3 [ 9c 8d ] [ two pairs, eights and sevens -- Jh,8d,8h,7h,7s ]ken1970 balance $22.5, didn't bet (folded)Fold the flop after a three-bet pre-flop. You should call the three bet of course but you're looking to flop big here. Even though the pot's big you likely need to hit the flop twice to be good here. ** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Kc, As ]bobbygig calls (0.5)ken1970 folds.goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1dawgris folds.luxlogs folds.ksgame folds.aphextwin83 folds.Tonythirteen calls (1)hackamo calls (0.75)keembot folds.bobbygig calls (0.5)** Dealing Flop ** : [ Ac, Jc, 8h ]hackamo checks.bobbygig checks.goldtoe4556 bets (0.5)Tonythirteen calls (0.5)hackamo calls (0.5)bobbygig calls (0.5)** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9d ]hackamo checks.bobbygig bets (1)goldtoe4556 calls (1)Tonythirteen folds.hackamo calls (1)** Dealing River ** : [ Qd ]hackamo checks.bobbygig checks.goldtoe4556 checks.** Summary **Main Pot: $9 | Rake: $0.5Board: [ Ac Jc 8h 9d Qd ]goldtoe4556 balance $9.75, lost $2.5 [ Kc As ] [ a pair of aces -- As,Ac,Kc,Qd,Jc ]dawgris balance $34, didn't bet (folded)luxlogs balance $23, didn't bet (folded)ksgame balance $15, didn't bet (folded)aphextwin83 balance $28.5, didn't bet (folded)Tonythirteen balance $6.87, lost $1.5 (folded)hackamo balance $33.13, bet $2.5, collected $9, net +$6.5 [ 8d Ah ] [ two pairs, aces and eights -- Ah,Ac,Qd,8d,8h ]keembot balance $19.25, lost $0.5 (folded)bobbygig balance $21, lost $2.5 [ 8s 9c ] [ two pairs, nines and eights -- Ac,9c,9d,8s,8h ]ken1970 balance $22.5, didn't bet (folded) I'd have gone for a C/R on the flop.These are all bad beats man!!Post the hands you played badly, stop hiding them!!If they're REALLY all like this just keep playing, you'll be fine.

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** Dealing down cards **Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ 8s, 9c ]swingsterz folds.NinjaSeale folds.gobluesparky checks.I_got_82 calls (0.5)RHINOWDH calls (0.5)testzz folds.treetop100 folds.Bourbonite folds.goldtoe4556 checks.** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2d, 3h, Js ]goldtoe4556 checks.gobluesparky checks.I_got_82 checks.RHINOWDH checks.** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9h ]goldtoe4556 bets (1)gobluesparky calls (1)I_got_82 calls (1)RHINOWDH folds.** Dealing River ** : [ Jc ]goldtoe4556 bets (1)gobluesparky calls (1)I_got_82 folds.** Summary **Main Pot: $6.75 | Rake: $0.5Board: [ 2d 3h Js 9h Jc ]goldtoe4556 balance $26.75, lost $2.5 [ 8s 9c ] [ two pairs, jacks and nines -- Js,Jc,9c,9h,8s ]swingsterz balance $33, didn't bet (folded)NinjaSeale balance $31.25, didn't bet (folded)gobluesparky balance $29.25, bet $2.5, collected $6.75, net +$4.25 [ 9d Qd ] [ two pairs, jacks and nines with queen kicker -- Qd,Js,Jc,9d,9h ]I_got_82 balance $30.38, lost $1.5 (folded)RHINOWDH balance $14.12, lost $0.5 (folded)testzz balance $24.5, didn't bet (folded)treetop100 balance $50.75, didn't bet (folded)Bourbonite balance $25, lost $0.25 (folded)Happens.
I dunno about this one - on the turn you have second pair with a less than wonderful kicker. You are also first position. And you are quite possibly facing a limping hand with a J or 9.You might have tried to represent a set of 9s by trying a check raise on the turn, and maybe winning it there (maybe not at these limits...)And if all checked the turn then maybe you try something on the river, but perhaps the J should at least give you pause....But otherwise Smasharoo is right on, I think. Especially the part about this too will pass...- w
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Wrto. I know what you are feeling. When I put in a few hands at PP same thing kept happening to me. From what you posted, looks like a bad run. They happen but try to look long term. If you don't want to look long term, well, go back to where you are comfortable. Stars?Otherwise, keep playing.Good luck.- Jordan

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I swear some of these players are blowing the people who run PP so they catch all these miracle cards. I'm getting rivered by runner runner flushed and straights constantly as of late.It just happened to me three times in a row, in fact. I need to log more hours so I can move up and get away from these twats.

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I had my problems with party poker at first. I never had the bank roll for the levels I was playing at. I have the hang of it now and the bank roll.. Number one rule is Bank Roll.. If you have a large enough bank roll... You know the standard 200 to 300 X the BB. You will do fine. I'm sure if your playing a .50/1 your bank roll is large enough so things should turn around for you with solid play..

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i'm the first to say that poker online is poker online.... but party hasnt really been good to me. i was playing 50 NL, and got sucked out on really bad a few times for all ins. ive also had the same problems on the limit tables. I agree with one of the earlier posts that you go on "perma-tilt" once this happens a bit. I almost lacked confidence there. I quit playing party mainly though, because the blinds in the NL games are double the size i am accustomed to playing, so my pre flop strategy involves putting in raises that are too large (ex i want to raise 5x with AK, and it costs me 2x as much only to fold to some heavy play on the flop)

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PartyPoker is full of fish. What you have to realize is that sometimes 4 fish are tougher to beat than 1 pro, because the 4 fish have 4 times as many cards to play against you (and draw out with). Of course this usually means you'll be getting tremendous odds no matter what. So just stick with it, play tight and straightforeward, and you'll be fine.

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You can't be scared to play mediocre hands. You'll hit nice swings (and bad ones, of course), but sometimes you *almost* have to be in the right place at the right time. For instance:***** Hand History for Game 1393137935 *****0/0 TexasHTGameTable (NL) - Wed Jan 05 09:11:05 EST 2005Table Table 14124 (6 max) (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the buttonTotal number of players : 6Seat 1: FreakSex ( $1649.7)Seat 2: Nobleut81 ( $170.7)Seat 3: jl3053 ( $49)Seat 4: Anderzone ( $1469.3)Seat 5: onosel ( $496.4)Seat 6: GreatWent ( $173.4)GreatWent posts small blind (2)FreakSex posts big blind (4)** Dealing down cards **Nobleut81 folds.jl3053 folds.Anderzone raises (13) to 13onosel calls (13)GreatWent folds.FreakSex calls (9)** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6c, 7h, 3s ] FreakSex checks.Anderzone bets (42)onosel folds.FreakSex calls (42)** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9d ] FreakSex checks.Anderzone bets (160)FreakSex raises (1594.7) to 1594.7FreakSex is all-In.Anderzone: temptedAnderzone: more than I should beAnderzone calls (1254.3)Anderzone is all-In.** Dealing River ** : [ 5h ] Creating Main Pot with $2951.6 with AnderzoneCreating Side Pot 1 with $180.4 with FreakSex** Summary **Main Pot: $2951.6 | Side Pot 1: $180.4 | Rake: $2Board: [ 6c 7h 3s 9d 5h ]FreakSex balance $3132, bet $1649.7, collected $3132, net +$1482.3 [ 9s 7s ] [ two pairs, nines and sevens -- 9s,9d,7s,7h,6c ]Nobleut81 balance $170.7, didn't bet (folded)jl3053 balance $49, didn't bet (folded)Anderzone balance $0, lost $1469.3 [ Ks Kh ] [ a pair of kings -- Ks,Kh,9d,7h,6c ]onosel balance $483.4, lost $13 (folded) GreatWent balance $171.4, lost $2 (folded) PartyPoker is tough, but I stick with it. As an earlier poster stated, when you lose big, quit. You'll save yourself five times more than your bad beat loss if you stop immediately. :-)

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Looking at 2 of the hands...** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Qh, Ac ] rknapton folds. goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1 dawgris folds. Wishn4Fishn calls (1) SomeKid85 folds. fourfIush folds. hackamo raises (1.5) to 1.5 keembot folds. MuckStick calls (1) goldtoe4556 calls (0.5) Wishn4Fishn calls (0.5) Obviously the raise is warranted. It is 3 bet back to you. I would assume (maybe incorrectly) that at these limits a 3 bet means a big hand...QQ, KK, AA, or AK... the guy who cold-called your raise could have AK, AQ, or any small to mid pair (if he is bad, he may be playing A-rag...who knows)...the guy in the blind who called the raise and reraise...could have anything, although you would assume a decent hand, maybe a pp or even suited connecting cards.** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3h, 4d, 2h ] MuckStick checks. goldtoe4556 checks. Wishn4Fishn checks. hackamo bets (0.5) MuckStick folds. goldtoe4556 calls (0.5) Wishn4Fishn calls (0.5) This is the play that is questionable I think. You might have lost half a bet here. I would assume you were looking for a 5. You usually are looking for 10-1 to call that bet. With $5 in the pot and $.50 to call, you are getting your 10-1. However, lets dig a little deeper. With 4 guys in the pot, I would think at least 1 other guy would have an A. Therefor, you might be playing for a split pot. You also have the sucker end of the straight. What if one of those guys has a 6. Now you will lose at least 3 or 4 bets. There are 2 hearts on board. A 5h might not help you. You wouldn't feel very confident betting into that type of board. You are drawing to a backdoor flush, but it is not the nut flush. Generally, that is a bad idea. You have 2 overs, but you could realistically only draw to the A, which may not be good, considering AK beats you and it makes a 4 card straight. ** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6s ] goldtoe4556 checks. Wishn4Fishn checks. hackamo bets (1) goldtoe4556 folds. Wishn4Fishn raises (2) to 2 hackamo calls (1) The best thing that happened is that the turn crippled any thought about drawing to your straight. You correctly fold. The raises on the turn confirms you are way behind. The second hand** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to goldtoe4556 [ Tc, Th ] Bourbonite folds. goldtoe4556 raises (1) to 1 swingsterz folds. NinjaSeale calls (1) I_got_82 folds. RHINOWDH folds. testzz folds. ** Dealing Flop ** : [ As, 3d, 4h ] goldtoe4556 bets (0.5) NinjaSeale raises (1) to 1 goldtoe4556 calls (0.5) ** Dealing Turn ** : [ 5d ] goldtoe4556 checks. NinjaSeale bets (1) goldtoe4556 folds. Was I right to lead out here? And the fold on the turn...correct? You raised with 10's. In 2nd position that may be a little too aggressive. Not the worst play though. Just be prepared to get beat often because overs will flop the majority of the time and you will be guessing whether you have the best hand or not. If you were in middle to late position then raise.The A comes on the flop. YES, you lead out. Most people will assume that when you raise you have an A, or a high pp. It is pretty easy to find out if you are beat then. If you check, you allow someone with mid pair or with KQ, KJ, etc. to either bluff you out of the pot or check behind you and get a free card. Looking at your play, there is nothing glaring that stands out. It sounds like you have just had a bad run of cards lately. Keep evaluating your play, while also going over hands with your poker coach, if you have one. Have him or her watch a session or 2 to see if they see any holes. I am sure you will be fine and the natural fluctuations will even themselves out, hopefully sooner rather than later.

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I have been going through the same thing as of late. I started playing pp again when they gave me a free 50 deposit to play with. The day before I got that buy in to Party I played in a 7 stud Hi/Lo freeroll at pokerstars and placed 20 out of 3800. I felt pretty good with that so I went to party and played a 10 sng 7 stud hi/lo. I won that one. My first tourny win. From there on out I have had nothing but a string of bad luck or bad beats. Ill admit that I am not the best player but, I was getting beat most of the time on the river when the players should have already gotten out of the hand. Same old story.

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You can't be scared to play mediocre hands. You'll hit nice swings (and bad ones, of course), but sometimes you *almost* have to be in the right place at the right time. For instancePreflop standards are much looser in NL because of the large implied odds available. Don't confuse liimit with NL. Just because the mehcanis are the same doesn't mean they play even vaguely simmilarly.

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This is the play that is questionable I think. You might have lost half a bet here. I would assume you were looking for a 5. You usually are looking for 10-1 to call that bet. With $5 in the pot and $.50 to call, you are getting your 10-1. However, lets dig a little deeper. With 4 guys in the pot, I would think at least 1 other guy would have an A. Therefor, you might be playing for a split pot. You also have the sucker end of the straight. What if one of those guys has a 6. Now you will lose at least 3 or 4 bets. There are 2 hearts on board. A 5h might not help you. You wouldn't feel very confident betting into that type of board. You are drawing to a backdoor flush, but it is not the nut flush. Generally, that is a bad idea. You have 2 overs, but you could realistically only draw to the A, which may not be good, considering AK beats you and it makes a 4 card straight. That's ludicrously weak/tight.You can discoutnt some of the overcard outs, but certainly not all of them. The likelyhood of someone having a 6 is marginal. You're looking at least 5.5 outs here, it's an easy call.Very easy.

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