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Wow.. all these replies with no insults... damn..anyway back to the topic... This book teaches how to play in a 1-2 NLHE ring game as well? I looked at the authors and i found hold em poker for advanced players very helpful( probably the most educational of my bunch).
The book does not address NLHE. Neither does Hold'Em for advanced players. Of course your NL game will benefit from reading them, but if you want advice tailored specifically to NL ring games, try:http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1886...9980364-7187264or go over Harrington's books. They address tournaments specifically, and in a ring game you would probably want to play a lot tighter, but a lot of general concepts are still applicable.
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Wow.. all these replies with no insults... damn..anyway back to the topic... This book teaches how to play in a 1-2 NLHE ring game as well? I looked at the authors and i found hold em poker for advanced players very helpful( probably the most educational of my bunch).
The book does not address NLHE. Neither does Hold'Em for advanced players. Of course your NL game will benefit from reading them, but if you want advice tailored specifically to NL ring games, try:http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1886...9980364-7187264or go over Harrington's books. They address tournaments specifically, and in a ring game you would probably want to play a lot tighter, but a lot of general concepts are still applicable.
never heard of that book you linked from amazon,how is it?
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To the OP:You have read many books about poker....(9) I think you said. You are going to a B&M cardroom Friday for the first time. I have to assume you play online or home games with friends, or poker books you've read would be ultra boring.I have some advise on your trip to the casino w/$200.1. don't drink, not even one beer 2. pay attension to every hand, EVERY HAND, you should be watching many more hands than you should be playing. Every hand should give you a better idea of players tendencies and the texture of the game.3. if you play sitngo's NL holdem online, cash ring game stategy is totally different. do a search on here and you will get a lot of info on the differences.4. don't play no limit. your first trip should be a learning experiance, win or lose, and i think you would get more out of playing a limit game. in limit, if you make a mistake or overplay a hand, you can learn from it and go on to the next hand. In NL if you make the same mistake, or someone else does and gets lucky, you have to get up from the table if you can't reload.5. if you do play nl, buy in for your whole $200. I promise that most of the chip stacks will have more than your $200 buyin. You want to get paid off for your full house vs. his flush. or your straight vs. his set. etc....6. don't go on tilt. if you get beat, move on to the next hand. remember that poket aces unimproved is only one pair. ok, so this one is easier said than done, but play a solid game of poker. If you lose, then try to figure out what you could have done to lose less. If you win, how could you have won more. Do this on every hand you were involved with, and don't play the Krablar unless it's your BB and no one raised.Good luck and I hope some FCP'ers add to, or improve on, the points I tried to make.

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Thanks for all the advice... so if 200 is too little to sit down at a 1-2 NLHE table then how much IS enough?As a matter of fact it will be my first cash game.. played mostly 6-7-8 people tournys and made a shit of money from them.

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Thanks for all the advice... so if 200 is too little to sit down at a 1-2 NLHE table then how much IS enough?
200 is enough to sit down with, but don't play 1/2 NL if that's all you are willing to lose. One bad beat and it's gone.Your total bankroll should be about 2K to play 1/2 NL.
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Thanks for all the advice... so if 200 is too little to sit down at a 1-2 NLHE table then how much IS enough?As a matter of fact it will be my first cash game.. played mostly 6-7-8 people tournys and made a censored of money from them.
You said the max is $300? Buy-in for that.As said above, you want to maximize your good hand's profit, and have people covered so you can force them to make a decision for all of their chips.
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Okay, ill buy in for 300( I have money but dont want to lose it all in 1 night)... i have a feeling people are going to be raising like lunatics there... and im gonna get priced out of alot of hands. Still think that i should buy in for like 150 and if i get busted reload the other 150, But if you people think i hould buy in for full amount.. then alright. Ill give you a update on Saturday on how i did. Hopefully ill be smiling while ill be typing. Also they say they have comp drinks and food.. so i gotta tip like in a casino right? Just dont want to look like a jackass, thanx

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Okay, ill buy in for 300( I have money but dont want to lose it all in 1 night)... i have a feeling people are going to be raising like lunatics there... and im gonna get priced out of alot of hands. Still think that i should buy in for like 150 and if i get busted reload the other 150, But if you people think i hould buy in for full amount.. then alright. Ill give you a update on Saturday on how i did. Hopefully ill be smiling while ill be typing. Also they say they have comp drinks and food.. so i gotta tip like in a casino right? Just dont want to look like a jackass, thanx

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can any one break down what in this book, or the main thesis (is it a tight style, or more calling/loose for the limits?) . i'm trying to consider buying it. How does it compare (style wise) to SS2 limit section, w/Jen Harman?

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Actually, if you're going to play NL with a limited amount of cash, I would suggest you buy Ed Miller's "Getting Started in Holdem". Miller outlines a way to play on a shortstack that will get you far more for your money.I would strongly suggest you DON'T buy in for the max.

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I'm not a great player, but I have read a lot. My advice is to buy in the whole amount. You can't play poker scared or you will be too tight. Like a lot of people said, you have to have 100 chips in front of you to win 100 chips if you flop the nut straight. When you first sit down, play tight until you know the table atmosphere and then open up a little. Only buy-in what you're willing to lose, though, that's poker. I believe in SS1 Doyle states that he always buys in for more chips then the largest stack in the game. It also helps your table image and may intimidate the guy next to you who is in his first game at B&M. Anyways, good luck.

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I was thinking of buying in for all of it but if i get beat by like a 5 outer, im done. But if i buy in for the min or even 100 bucks i still have andother round to go. Does anyone agree with me?Whats the ideal amount to buy in then?
Don't play unless you can stand to lose- you can't, you are already discussing losing before you've walked in the front door. This game is not a good idea for you, you are scared money. And no, no one will agree with you.
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Okay, ill buy in for 300( I have money but dont want to lose it all in 1 night)... i have a feeling people are going to be raising like lunatics there... and im gonna get priced out of alot of hands. Still think that i should buy in for like 150 and if i get busted reload the other 150, But if you people think i hould buy in for full amount.. then alright. Ill give you a update on Saturday on how i did. Hopefully ill be smiling while ill be typing.    Also they say they have comp drinks and food.. so i gotta tip like in a casino right? Just dont want to look like a jackass, thanx
So, buy in for $150 or $300, whatever. It shouldn't change the way you play or you starting hand selection as much as the texture of the players, what players are in the pot, your position, and numerous other factors.I hope your first B&M ring game will be a learning experience and a winning one too. The only way to keep score in poker is $won or $lost. Keep a record and see how you do.Tournement NL holdem is completely different than NL holdem ring games. It has been covered several times in numerous threads, do a search, also in many books.I don't think you should drink while you play poker. I want all of my opponents to drink. It effects judgement and clarity of thought, this is good for me. Yes you should tip when a server brings you a "coke" , a bottle of water, or if you must, a shot of whiskey/beer. Tip $1, or if the casino takes the rake $.50 at a time, they will have 50 cent chips or quarters on the table. Then I would give .50. I'm cheap. When the dealer pushes a pot to you, you may want to give $1...it's voluntary and for me, it depends on how big the pot is.Good luck and let us know how you did. If you win...why and how...if you lose...why and how
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I guess I'm misunderstood, im not scared, im nervous. Thats two different things. I as many other people know, bad beats happen. BUT they will not judge the way i play. I am saying that it, if it should happen, I would like some more ammo to play with.

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I guess I'm misunderstood, im not scared, im nervous. Thats two different things. I as many other people know, bad beats happen. BUT they will not judge the way i play. I am saying that it, if it should happen, I would like some more ammo to play with.
Buy Getting Started in Holdem, and read the section on Short Stack no limit.It works. Akishore has done a good bit of experimenting with it, and could tell you more. I've only done some at low limits on line. It's made me money.
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I'm gonna go against the flow here and say SSHE is a terrible idea right now, given the other options out there for you (particularly from Ed Miller).SSHE is fairly advanced, something you really need some experience to appreciate. A basic strategy thing like Miller's new book would do you much better.Also, as far as playing in a B&M, don't overanalyze. Play ABC poker and no more.

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Yes, it really is that good.  And it teaches you small stakes hold'em. If you ever play online and see all the "fish"........yeah, it teaches you how to not play like that. It really is a must read for anyone hoping to beat small stakes limit holdem games.
You don't have to read it to beat small stakes hold'em,but why walk into a fight with a good right hook,when you can walk in with a glock?
LOL.... my new sig.
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Yes, it really is that good.  And it teaches you small stakes hold'em. If you ever play online and see all the "fish"........yeah, it teaches you how to not play like that. It really is a must read for anyone hoping to beat small stakes limit holdem games.
You don't have to read it to beat small stakes hold'em,but why walk into a fight with a good right hook,when you can walk in with a glock?
LOL.... my new sig.
Well Glocks are OK, but I prefer a good ol' .45 M1911A.
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