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Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is Button with [Tc], [Ts]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.5. UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.Flop: (14 SB) [5s], [8h], [Td] (7 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.Turn: (13 BB) [Qs] (4 players)SB checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.River: (25 BB) [3d] (3 players)UTG+1 bets, UTG+1 calls.Final Pot: 33 BBThis guy was new to the table, too. What do you think?

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I don't see any other way to play it. If he has QQ, so be it. I wouldn't expect J9 here, but you never know.EDIT: actually, maybe J9 is possible based on preflop lack of aggression

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I wouldnt lay it down, you probably have the best hand. I'd imagine he could have a lower set. He didnt participate in any pre-flop raising, so I doubt he'd want to leave queens that open to being beat. His limp in pre-flop probably indicates a lower set when he bet the flop. Maybe J9 or two pair but I doubt it.

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I wouldn't raise preflop. Too many people in behind you. 16 cards are bad for you here (4 A's, 4 K's, 4 Q's, 4 J's) on the flop. All your raise does is gives them better odds.Flop is fine.Turn is fine.I'm just calling the river. I don't know what he's got, but leading out after a cap is pretty strong.

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I wouldn't raise preflop.  Too many people in behind you.  16 cards are bad for you here (4 A's, 4 K's, 4 Q's, 4 J's) on the flop.  All your raise does is gives them better odds.Flop is fine.Turn is fine.I'm just calling the river.  I don't know what he's got, but leading out after a cap is pretty strong.
Raising preflop isn't a value bet? My 10-10 stands to be ahead a bunch of hands.Yes, I think I may like just calling the river, too.
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Raising preflop isn't a value bet? My 10-10 stands to be ahead a bunch of hands.
I don't think it is. You're likely a coinflip to a lot of people. I think TT is too small of a pair to be raising here (though I'm probably raising JJ).
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wow..... look at all those calls.....Sorry, I'm fantasizing again. Well played on flop and turn. I think I might just call the river, also... because QQ or J9 would really suck, and what can you buy with 33 BB that you can't buy with 27BB?Well, a lot really.But I'm just saying that going to the river in a monster pot with the non-nuts... it's not always safe to cap the river and turn it into a collosal ginormous pot. Winning just a monster pot is okay too.

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Found SSHE to look it up, it recommends raising AA-88 on a loose game from the button...I imagine for value.
I hate raising 88-99 for any reason other than isolation or if it's folded to you in MP2 or later. TT is debatable - as I said, I prefer just limping. The others are standard raises. SSHE isn't something that needs to be followed to a tee.
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Found SSHE to look it up, it recommends raising AA-88 on a loose game from the button...I imagine for value.
SSHE isn't something that needs to be followed to a tee.
yes...heh. I know. That's why I stressed "Found SSHE to look it up," didn't want to imply I'm sitting at the computer with it in front of me. :wink: Thanks for all the replies, they are well received and appreciated.
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