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the fact that he final tabled HARD in his first and only two major tourney events in LHE is not variance.
It's practically the definition of variance.
So were your WPT final tables a few years ago just a fluke and now you are regressing to the mean??
Of course they were, if by "fluke" you mean "way ahead of expectation." I've noted that many times.
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LOL...by hard, I mean that he went deep in both final tables....ok...I need to come up with better wording here.He didn't just final table and go out in 9th and 4th. When he finished 3rd, he was crushing the table and just went cold at the worst time. Obviously when he won, he didn't run cold.My point Paul, is that you made it sound like there was no substance behind his wins. Sure, any donkey can win a tourney...even the biggest as we have seen before. This was clearly not a case of some donkey getting lucky twice. Did he run well, yes, sure....but I have no doubt he was also probably in the top percentile of LHE players there. When you say "regression to the mean"...its almost like you are implying he is in the "mean". I argue that Todd is well ahead of the mean. Now if you are speaking of his own personal mean..thats different I guess. I think you get my point.

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To be fair to Todd, I don't think he was calling Daniel out. He was just sharing his opinion with his forum. Imagine how horrible it would be to take Levitra/Viagra before playing poker. That would be the most uncomfortable few hours of anyone's life. It's like that movie where the protagonist was trying to hack into some database while getting a bj.

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He didn't tell DN he did anything wrong. He simply stated that he HEARD from others in THAT tourney that DN grew a huge stack playing wrecklessly, and lost it just as quickly playing recklessly. He made sure to state nothing as fact and pointed out that nothing was firsthand...just what he heard. I will agree that with DD's limited tourney play...he might have a skewed view of how hard it is or is not to keep chips late in a tourney...seing as that his sample is biased towards having held onto his chips. He just didn't understand how Daniel lost them so quickly.It is so funny how people will applaud one persons criticism when it suits them, and attack when it doesn't. I find it much more offensive when people call Josh A. an ******* than this silly stuff.Paul Phillips, you are not shy about "unleashing" your opinion. Why should Druff not have an opinion...much less just relate some heresy?

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To be fair to Todd, I don't think he was calling Daniel out. He was just sharing his opinion with his forum. Imagine how horrible it would be to take Levitra/Viagra before playing poker. That would be the most uncomfortable few hours of anyone's life. It's like that movie where the protagonist was trying to hack into some database while getting a bj.
Depends on how high or low the poker table was.....
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When you say "regression to the mean"...its almost like you are implying he is in the "mean".
Regression to the mean is a term from statistics, not some kind of clever layered jab. You would have been equally on target to imagine I meant that he will get meaner and meaner, eventually beating up kids for their lunch money and stomping on puppies.
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He didn't tell DN he did anything wrong. He simply stated that he HEARD from others in THAT tourney that DN grew a huge stack playing wrecklessly, and lost it just as quickly playing recklessly. He made sure to state nothing as fact and pointed out that nothing was firsthand...just what he heard. I will agree that with DD's limited tourney play...he might have a skewed view of how hard it is or is not to keep chips late in a tourney...seing as that his sample is biased towards having held onto his chips. He just didn't understand how Daniel lost them so quickly.It is so funny how people will applaud one persons criticism when it suits them, and attack when it doesn't. I find it much more offensive when people call Josh A. an censored than this silly stuff.Paul Phillips, you are not shy about "unleashing" your opinion. Why should Druff not have an opinion...much less just relate some heresy?
Im not Phillips PR man, and it is sure ok to have an opinion, but Druff does say that his experience in live tourneys leads him to believe that DN chunked off chips. I for one gave him the benefit of the doubt until I heard DNs side of the story. I still didnt write off Druffs opinion. He then comes back and says that his analysis of DNs play is based on hearsay. I respect that he can admit that he might be wrong, but one should be careful about analyzing someone play when they were not there to witness it. He opened himself up to criticism as a result, and one of those criticisms stated by Phillips, albeit sarcastically, is that Druff has played in two events (he did do well) but he is really in no position to analyze DNs game based on hearsay.
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he might have a skewed view of how hard it is or is not to keep chips late in a tourney
Might?
Paul Phillips, you are not shy about "unleashing" your opinion. Why should Druff not have an opinion...much less just relate some heresy?
What, did I send guys to his house to forcibly silence him? Sorry about the thugs. For some reason I thought I was just offering a couple observations, but you know how quickly things can get out of hand.
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Paul...um...they did teach us that at Yale. Thanks though.Yeah...I am sure you didn't make the statement as a "jab" to bring Todd down a notch. You never do that....Maybe you were referring to regressing to the mean in terms of what "mean" performance would be for Todd...but if you are implying that he success was a fluke and that his results should soon come back to the middle of the pack...I disagree because he is not in the middle of the pack in the first place. Understand?

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Paul...um...they did teach us that at Yale. Thanks though.Yeah...I am sure you didn't make the statement as a "jab" to bring Todd down a notch. You never do that....Maybe you were referring to regressing to the mean in terms of what "mean" performance would be for Todd...but if you are implying that he success was a fluke and that his results should soon come back to the middle of the pack...I disagree because he is not in the middle of the pack in the first place. Understand?
I have a strong feeling you are about to be pwned.
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Maybe you were referring to regressing to the mean in terms of what "mean" performance would be for Todd...
That is the only thing it could have meant. Please don't take your ignorance of that out on me. I have absolutely no idea how good he is or isn't except to be nearly certain (based on his own words) that he isn't as good as he thinks he is. But that's universal among people who run well early.
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he might have a skewed view of how hard it is or is not to keep chips late in a tourney
Might?
Paul Phillips, you are not shy about "unleashing" your opinion. Why should Druff not have an opinion...much less just relate some heresy?
What, did I send guys to his house to forcibly silence him? Sorry about the thugs. For some reason I thought I was just offering a couple observations, but you know how quickly things can get out of hand.
I for one love hearing your observations. I just think its funny sometimes because you make such absolute statements all the time and are so unwilling to admit that you might be off base yourself. In your original observation, you made a statement that I think was off base. You like to be witty and sarcastic...and vague in the intent of your statements so that you can argue that you had different intentions if someone calls you out.
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Paul...um...they did teach us that at Yale. Thanks though....I disagree because he is not in the middle of the pack in the first place. Understand?
It seems to me that you and George W. Bush were in the same study group...
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Maybe you were referring to regressing to the mean in terms of what "mean" performance would be for Todd...
That is the only thing it could have meant. Please don't take your ignorance of that out on me. I have absolutely no idea how good he is or isn't except to be nearly certain (based on his own words) that he isn't as good as he thinks he is. But that's universal among people who run well early.
If that is what you meant...fine, then I slightly misjudged your statement. You still were slighting his success and gave him no credit for a great accomplishment. I wouldn't expect you to give credit...for it wasn't yourself to give credit to.Sure, Todd has run well early in his "tourney" career, but I don't think he is the type of guy to overestimate his own abilities (at least not any moreso than any good poker player). Again, you make an ignorant generalization by saying that all players who run well early think they are better than they are. Yes, most do, but not all.BTW...thanks for the "ignorance" comment. Good for a laugh. BTW...what was your GPA at Yale???
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Paul...um...they did teach us that at Yale. Thanks though....I disagree because he is not in the middle of the pack in the first place. Understand?
It seems to me that you and George W. Bush were in the same study group...
No, but we were in the same fraternity, and I like his father also played baseball. I am confused...was this some type of attempt at a flame for me going to Yale??? Gee...good one.Next.
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Paul...um...they did teach us that at Yale. Thanks though....I disagree because he is not in the middle of the pack in the first place. Understand?
It seems to me that you and George W. Bush were in the same study group...
No, but we were in the same fraternity, and I like his father also played baseball. I am confused...was this some type of attempt at a flame for me going to Yale??? Gee...good one.Next.
1. Say "Yale" again. Please. We might have forgotten where you went to school. 2. It was a flame for you being an idiot, like a certain other Yale grad. I don't want to make this thread political, so please nobody respond about how much you like W. I was just explaining the flame.EDIT: "idiot" might be too strong. Let's just say you are being thick-headed.
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Paul...um...they did teach us that at Yale. Thanks though.Yeah...I am sure you didn't make the statement as a "jab" to bring Todd down a notch. You never do that....Maybe you were referring to regressing to the mean in terms of what "mean" performance would be for Todd...but if you are implying that he success was a fluke and that his results should soon come back to the middle of the pack...I disagree because he is not in the middle of the pack in the first place. Understand?
I have a strong feeling you are about to be pwned.
What...because he is Paul Phillips and you don't know who I am...I am about to be pwned??? Ignorance is bliss...isn't it?
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I don't think he is the type of guy to overestimate his own abilities
"Given that I made 3rd and 1st place in the two I've played, I came to realize something. There's no excuse for chunking off a big lead in a limit tournament."
BTW...thanks for the "ignorance" comment. Good for a laugh. BTW...what was your GPA at Yale???
Oh. My. God.Thank you for your tireless work to perpetuate the most loathsome ivy league stereotype; I'm sure your fellow yalies greatly appreciate it.
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I am confused...was this some type of attempt at a flame for me going to Yale??? Gee...good one.
I would sue Yale for a tuition refund if that is truly your interpretation of my statement, and you may wish to quote your replies to PP if you want additional damages awarded...
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Paul...um...they did teach us that at Yale. Thanks though....I disagree because he is not in the middle of the pack in the first place. Understand?
It seems to me that you and George W. Bush were in the same study group...
No, but we were in the same fraternity, and I like his father also played baseball. I am confused...was this some type of attempt at a flame for me going to Yale??? Gee...good one.Next.
1. Say "Yale" again. Please. We might have forgotten where you went to school. 2. It was a flame for you being an idiot, like a certain other Yale grad. I don't want to make this thread political, so please nobody respond about how much you like W. I was just explaining the flame.
I understood the flame you 19 year old donktart. Its just not a funny one. I could care less about GW...but when you have to flame someone or call them ignorant but likening them to the president of the US....you are struggling...and you are.
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Paul...um...they did teach us that at Yale. Thanks though.Yeah...I am sure you didn't make the statement as a "jab" to bring Todd down a notch. You never do that....Maybe you were referring to regressing to the mean in terms of what "mean" performance would be for Todd...but if you are implying that he success was a fluke and that his results should soon come back to the middle of the pack...I disagree because he is not in the middle of the pack in the first place. Understand?
I have a strong feeling you are about to be pwned.
What...because he is Paul Phillips and you don't know who I am...I am about to be pwned??? Ignorance is bliss...isn't it?
No, because he is right and you are wrong. Go back and read this argument from outside your own perspective. Take a step back, and you'll see that not only are you far behing Phillips in your understanding of the math he was talking about, you are also unable to sustain an argument without getting personal (which destroys your credibility).Sorry, you just don't have a good argument here. You seem like a smart guy, but you are wrong in jumping on us criticizing Todd.
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