wsop qualifications?????

[DeucesEmpty 0]

In the beginning, the world series of poker was usually won by the best player on the day. It gradually got bigger and bigger but you could still win the tournament more than once. As one would expect, poker started becoming mainstream, but again, Stu Ungar won his 3rd title in '97 proving the best players could still win. 2005 main event: complete and total crapshoot. I hear people saying: "matusow, Ivey, Raymer and Andy Black are all did pretty well this year - and they're well known players" how many poker pros names do you know???? probably alot. Considering the large numbers of players names you might know, its not unlikely that someone of professional standard would make a final table with about 2,100 amatuers there. The simple fact is: in 1970 10,000 dollars was ALOT of money (probably equivalent of 50,000 now) and the price has not adjusted to inflation. So now there are two options: raise the buy-in of the world series (which does nothing to improve the standards with satellites) or have qualifying criteria for entrance. Eventually, poker will settle down like any other game and there will be different rules. It's only a matter of time. In the UK they already have the world's first 2 channels dedicated to poker. Since 2003, poker is televised quite widely. So, like in every "sport" i think players will have to qualify (like, I cant play in the US masters golf tournament just cause I have the buy-in). Maybe not now, maybe in 5 years, I beleive there will be some kind of standardised "points" system devised. Basically, its like a giant TLB board. No matter what casino its in, or which site, you will be awarded a certain amount of points for a tournament win or any result - just less points(obviously relative to the buy-in and the field of players). The more points you clock up, the higher your qualify. These points could be put on your "card" or credited to your "account" online which in turn could be submitted (in the form of a number like a credit card) at the wsop. Simply enough, the more points you have, the more events you can play (with the buy-in) these will be closed events. It almost gives amateurs a chance to compete against pros in "pro" events. In short, this would create a proper event......it could be televised properly and it wouldnt just be unknowns in the final stages all the time. So Im just wondering, if everyone had the option to introduce a qualification system would you? Lets say, hypothetically, if you won the $10 rebuys on pokerstars (bout $3,000) you get 100 points. If you win the $215 game however, you could get 2,500 points. The buy in for the World series MAIN event I would suggest would be around 750 points (over a whole year its not that much to aim for is it? - considering you dont have to win to get points)

[KingAustin 0]

I didnt read your post, but something tells me that's +EV.Anyway, how does the size of the WSOP ME affect you?

[GWCGWC 83]

The only qualification should and will be being able to fork over the money.I think the main event should be a huge buy in....100k or so. I haven't tried to figure out how much the buy in should be based on the original 10k + inflation. I'm sure someone has done the adjustment and could answer this question. It would reduce the # of entrants into the ME greatly. Pstars sent 1100, or so, to the ME this year. They came no where close to this # for the WPT final because of the 25k.I love watching poker on television. However, I am more concerned with playing poker than with watching it. What is most important to me is playing the game and people correctly, winning $ and recognizing my bad plays.

[custom36 4]

I think the main event should be a huge buy in....100k or so. I haven't tried to figure out how much the buy in should be based on the original 10k + inflation. I'm sure someone has done the adjustment and could answer this question. It would reduce the # of entrants into the ME greatly. Pstars sent 1100, or so, to the ME this year. They came no where close to this # for the WPT final because of the 25k.

So, what you're saying is that the WSOP ME should be full of the richest, not the best? What a stupid idea.

[GWCGWC 83]

I think the main event should be a huge buy in....100k or so. I haven't tried to figure out how much the buy in should be based on the original 10k + inflation. I'm sure someone has done the adjustment and could answer this question. It would reduce the # of entrants into the ME greatly. Pstars sent 1100, or so, to the ME this year. They came no where close to this # for the WPT final because of the 25k.

So, what you're saying is that the WSOP ME should be full of the richest, not the best? What a stupid idea.

Yes, the richest....which is what the ME was this year. 6000+ of the richest people in the world.....wtf.I'm saying that it should be the best poker players that can afford the buy in is all. That's all I'm saying. I don't think this will happen in the next few years, and when it does, I think it will go up to 25k.

[happyjuggler0 0]

The whole point is moot. Harrah's is going to do what it thinks will get them the most money. That probably means keeping it at $10,000, or creeping up that number a bit each year, certainly not with the intention of outpricing people.Whenever the PPT finally gets around to airing on tv I suspect it will be viewed as much closer to a real World Championship.This does not mean that Harrah's can't add other high priced tournies to their wsop. They increased the buy in for the top pot limit omaha game, and don't be surprised to see similar things going on in the future.

[Mr Monkey 0]

The whole point is moot. Harrah's is going to do what it thinks will get them the most money. That probably means keeping it at $10,000, or creeping up that number a bit each year, certainly not with the intention of outpricing people.Whenever the PPT finally gets around to airing on tv I suspect it will be viewed as much closer to a real World Championship.This does not mean that Harrah's can't add other high priced tournies to their wsop. They increased the buy in for the top pot limit omaha game, and don't be surprised to see similar things going on in the future.

[custom36 4]

I think the main event should be a huge buy in....100k or so. I haven't tried to figure out how much the buy in should be based on the original 10k + inflation. I'm sure someone has done the adjustment and could answer this question. It would reduce the # of entrants into the ME greatly. Pstars sent 1100, or so, to the ME this year. They came no where close to this # for the WPT final because of the 25k.

So, what you're saying is that the WSOP ME should be full of the richest, not the best? What a stupid idea.

Yes, the richest....which is what the ME was this year. 6000+ of the richest people in the world.....wtf.I'm saying that it should be the best poker players that can afford the buy in is all. That's all I'm saying. I don't think this will happen in the next few years, and when it does, I think it will go up to 25k.

Because all of the best players have 100,000 to throw around. Do you think before you speak or does it just slide out?

[Jelly-Filled Ace 1]

5600 people vs. 800 people. which group spends more entertainment and lodging dollars? I don't think you'll see Las Vegas chase away these kind of numbers anytime soon.Inflation ya say? yep, valid point, I'll give ya that one.What cost $10000 in 1970 would cost $50379.13 in 2005.Also, if you were to buy exactly the same products in 2005 and 1970,they would cost you $10000 and $1984.95 respectively.

[CaptainHooks 0]

The point system is not a horrible idea but many good players would fail to qualify. Matusow had a miserable wsop, and the only decent showing that he has had the last year was a 3rd in aruba I believe?? But this should be taken with a grain of salt due to his absence from poker for 6 months. 25k buy in is the way to go. Most pros can afford this while amateur entry's would be reduced. For some people it wouldnt matter if the ME was 10k or 100k, they have money to burn. But internet entries would be reduced significanlty. The question I pose is, what is the ideal number of people for the wsop??? 1200 is my opinion..

[CaptainHooks 0]

The point system is not a horrible idea but many good players would fail to qualify. Matusow had a miserable wsop, and the only decent showing that he has had the last year was a 3rd in aruba I believe?? But this should be taken with a grain of salt due to his absence from poker for 6 months. 25k buy in is the way to go. Most pros can afford this while amateur entry's would be reduced. For some people it wouldnt matter if the ME was 10k or 100k, they have money to burn. But internet entries would be reduced significanlty. The question I pose is, what is the ideal number of people for the wsop??? 1200 is my opinion..

[LuckyMcCatcher 0]

This elitist attitude about the ME is ridiculous. Why in the world would you care that a pro doesnt win the main event. What makes th emain event great is that almost anyone can win. There is no chance of it or any one tournament for that matter determining who the best player in the world is so why should it matter if a pro doesnt win? All a point system will do is just what the ME does anyway. Determine who is running hottest at that particular time of year. Btw, if it were not for the open nature of the WSOP most of you tards would not be on this forum discussing this ridiculous topic.