do you think i played this hand correctly?

[myenemy 0]

Particulars45 player NLHE tourney, 30 players leftStarting chips: 1500 My chip count: 10000Position: buttonblinds: 50/100Situation:2 limpers ahead, I limp with 8 9 blinds call/check.Flop: Q J T the small blind bets 200 one limper calls, I raise to 600, small blind reraises to 1500, limper folds, I reraise all-in(I have him covered).He folded. Considering his possible holdings I believe I may have been able to get the rest of his chips on 4th street. I dont believe he reraises me with AK in that spot. Right or wrong?

[JesseW316 0]

He would have raised AK preflop, so you can be sure he doesn't have Ak. You can be pretty sure he either had Q9s, Q8s, or possibly JT,Q10, or KQ. I wouldn't want him to see 4th street without paying a heavy price, because there is a chance he has A-rag of spades and could hit a king for a higher straight or a flush if he has a flush draw. That is a good flop for you, but it is dangerous as hell if someone is playing back at you.

[semaj550 0]

I agree with Jesse 100%. You are very likely to have the best hand on the flop but you are very, very vulnerable to redraws and should be happy to take down a slightly fattened pot right there. I may not have limped with 98o with a chip stack that big and still 2/3 of the field left but once the flop came down you played it about the best way you could have. Would you really have wanted to gamble with the chance he could have a redraw to a boat, higher straight or spade flush? You might be getting the best of it but tournaments are about picking the best spots you can and then getting your chips in, no need to get cute with that hand, that early in the tournament with that many chips in your stack.Remember that in freezeouts each additional chip you earn is worth less than the chip before it and it is generally more important to go deep into a tournament (which you were in prime position to do) rather than contest a lot of pots early on.

[CodyHartman 0]

This isn't a flame post, but try posting this in the "Strategy" forum we have.You'll get more responses and usually some kind of duscussion too. There are some players that only goto that section of the forum as well, some of theses players play higher limits too, and they may have different insight then some us lower limit players.GL, Cody

[TheIceman05 0]

How many turn cards do you dread seeing? Any nine or king. Any spade. Any board pair. You probably have to fold to any real action if any of this happens. I probably would have played it the same way... Your hand is best now, but a big chunk of the deck makes your hand all but impossible to play on the next street.You COULD flat call the 1500 and play a safe card aggressively, but that's risky, and you have to be able to fold when you're beatenIce

[case ace 0]

He would have raised AK preflop, so you can be sure he doesn't have Ak. You can be pretty sure he either had Q9s, Q8s, or possibly JT,Q10, or KQ. I wouldn't want him to see 4th street without paying a heavy price, because there is a chance he has A-rag of spades and could hit a king for a higher straight or a flush if he has a flush draw. That is a good flop for you, but it is dangerous as hell if someone is playing back at you.

very true. there is basically no way he has ak. K 9 would suck, but that's being afraid of monsers in the closet. IMO i NEVER will slow play a straight. to many time i get burned by getting conterfeited, rivering a flush, or boat. And man do you feel like a sucker when that happens. More over inducing a chop or losing can happen even more often than winning. Even heads up, (ed Johnny chan's /seidel's infamous rounders hand) is stupid. Even when you put em on over cards they still have outs. IMO. This makes that condish thread even worse

[Royal_Tour 0]

Particulars45 player NLHE tourney, 30 players leftStarting chips: 1500 My chip count: 10000Position: buttonblinds: 50/100Situation:2 limpers ahead, I limp with 8 9 blinds call/check.Flop: Q J T the small blind bets 200 one limper calls, I raise to 600, small blind reraises to 1500, limper folds, I reraise all-in(I have him covered).He folded. Considering his possible holdings I believe I may have been able to get the rest of his chips on 4th street. I dont believe he reraises me with AK in that spot. Right or wrong?

15 players out., and you have 10k from 1500?????did you eliminate your entire table?? wtf??are you playing monkeys with chips in front of them?Basicaly, your a ridiculously aggressive player, with a lot of luck, and Yes, when he re-raised you, if your certain he's not holding A,K,, then pushing is the correct play

[case ace 0]

Particulars45 player NLHE tourney, 30 players leftStarting chips: 1500 My chip count: 10000Position: buttonblinds: 50/100Situation:2 limpers ahead, I limp with 8 9 blinds call/check.Flop: Q J T the small blind bets 200 one limper calls, I raise to 600, small blind reraises to 1500, limper folds, I reraise all-in(I have him covered).He folded. Considering his possible holdings I believe I may have been able to get the rest of his chips on 4th street. I dont believe he reraises me with AK in that spot. Right or wrong?

15 players out., and you have 10k from 1500?????did you eliminate your entire table?? wtf??are you playing monkeys with chips in front of them?Basicaly, your a ridiculously aggressive player, with a lot of luck, and Yes, when he re-raised you, if your certain he's not holding A,K,, then pushing is the correct play

agreed, you must have taken unneeded risks to get you stack that high, that quick... at least for my taste. Certain players on this site (coughdncough) like to get a mountain of chips or go home. Either way, you can get to the final table, but 10,000 is a whole table and insane

[LuckyMcCatcher 0]

There is no good way to get all his chips with out him having significant redraws against you. Unless he had bottom two than he is drawing very live, but would he risk his tournament on that hand against an all in raise that looks like a slowplay? I dont think so. If he has top pair or a flush draw you are very vulnerable and he might be likely to push in this situation. If he has a set you are equally vulnerable and he could have K9 also. You played it fine. With a hand like the sucker straight you should be happy to get out alive espeically with a draw heavy board. Bet a substanial amount on flop and be prepared to be faced with a tough decision for all your chips.

[Smasharoo 0]

He would have raised AK preflop, so you can be sure he doesn't have Ak.Stop playing tournaments immediately.Thanks.

[gobears 0]

He would have raised AK preflop, so you can be sure he doesn't have Ak.Stop playing tournaments immediately.Thanks.

I know quite a few players who will limp with AK as Smash is pointing out. Especially with very deep stacks, reverse implied odds can kill you if you're raising up big with AKo. Thread below from Paul Phillips discussing the topic (note that he has 200x the BB). http://extempore.livejournal.com/97260.html

[myenemy 0]

youre right I didnt have 10k, I had that after this hand. I had like 7-8k before this hand but still had the guy covered.

[Hand_Cracker 0]

Particulars45 player NLHE tourney, 30 players leftStarting chips: 1500 My chip count: 10000Position: buttonblinds: 50/100Situation:2 limpers ahead, I limp with 8 9 blinds call/check.Flop: Q J T the small blind bets 200 one limper calls, I raise to 600, small blind reraises to 1500, limper folds, I reraise all-in(I have him covered).He folded. Considering his possible holdings I believe I may have been able to get the rest of his chips on 4th street. I dont believe he reraises me with AK in that spot. Right or wrong?

you really dont want to see fourth street in that position.so raising all-in was a good move.you needed to take down the pot right there as you did.if he had a flush and an iniside straight draw he might even call you there but thats why you push to put him to a decision.if you just call his reraise or min re-re-raise then hes inclined to call because of pot odds and your giving him virtually a free card.and there are SO many scare cards that can hit on fourth.you played it well even if you made the mistake of thinking you want to get more chips from him on fourth.

[TJ_Eckleburg 0]

2 limpers ahead, I limp with 8c 9s

Your first mistake. I have enough trouble trying to convince people that SUITED connectors are overrated in tournaments, let alone off suit connectors out of position.You should be all in on this flop given the action. AK is not an impossible hand, but you may very well be ahead. But I count 9 spades, 3 kings, 3 aces, 3 queens, 3 jacks, 3 tens, and three 9's that absolutely kill your hand, and that's two shots at half the deck. This is a bad situation to be in....Which is why you shouldn't play 89o in a tournament. Or worse, flop the worst possible straight in a tournament with a weak hand.

[ChuckSty 0]

2 limpers ahead, I limp with 8c 9s

Your first mistake. I have enough trouble trying to convince people that SUITED connectors are overrated in tournaments, let alone off suit connectors out of position.You should be all in on this flop given the action. AK is not an impossible hand, but you may very well be ahead. But I count 9 spades, 3 kings, 3 aces, 3 queens, 3 jacks, 3 tens, and three 9's that absolutely kill your hand, and that's two shots at half the deck. This is a bad situation to be in....Which is why you shouldn't play 89o in a tournament. Or worse, flop the worst possible straight in a tournament with a weak hand.

tj is bored today.and mostly right about the suited conncetors although in position i'll definitley play them and if you got a big stack i'll playem and just try to hit flops and win big pots.

[TJ_Eckleburg 0]

tj is bored today.

At work again.Which is where I do all my best strategy posting.Mwah-hah-hah-hah.

[zimmer4141 0]

Actually, I don't mind his limp here. He has a very deep stack for these blinds, and can afford to take a flop. It isn't a play that I would make, but it isn't a horrible play. As for the flop, you have to push here. You are definitely ahead here, and I would push to make any hand like KQ, Q9, or A-rag flush draw pay a heavy price to stay here. There are so many redraws, that I would like to get all my money in with the best hand.