goofyortiz 0 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 hello all,I just read this book on the big game and I was wondering what your opinions are of it. I was impressed by the book; I thought it was a good read and I thought he did an excellent job researching the matter. I remember from past posts, that Daniel and many people on this site thought that he would be a significant favorite over Howard Lederer, even in limit hold 'em. After reading the book (and granted I've never played against or seen either of them play heads up limit hold em) I would have to believe that Lederer would be a significant favorite. I was surprised by the fact that Beal refused to play Lederer out of all of the big names in the corporation on his third visit (if memory serves me correctly) and it seems as though Lederer along with Todd Brunson, won the most money from Beal. Anyway, it was a great book and I would appreciate anyone else's view on the matter Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I just recieved this book in the mail yesterday from Half.com. I am looking forward to reading it, but I am in the middle of another great book called Cloud Atlas. I recommend this book highly. FYI...it's not about poker.Anyone have any more suggested books about poker like Positively 5th st, and the one mentioned above? Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Jennifer Harmon also was a big winner from Beal. I enjoyed the book, and fell like it did treat both sides very fairly. It is incredible how much money these guys played for. My favorite stories were about Ted Forrest and his gambling habits. He look like the most normal guy... Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I just recieved this book in the mail yesterday from Half.com. I am looking forward to reading it, but I am in the middle of another great book called Cloud Atlas. I recommend this book highly. FYI...it's not about poker.Anyone have any more suggested books about poker like Positively 5th st, and the one mentioned above?Have you read The Biggest Game in Town? That is probaby the first poker book that is more narrative than strategy. Link to post Share on other sites
Patman 0 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I saw this book at barnes and nobles today and was about to get it, but ive got so much other stuff to read I decided to put it off. It sounds very interesting and cant wait to read it. Link to post Share on other sites
skipeddoda 0 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 aces and king, being amarillo slim in a world full of fat people, doyles other book doyles winning poker plays are also good story based books Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Deja vuDeja vu Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyMcCatcher 0 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 hello all,I just read this book on the big game and I was wondering what your opinions are of it. I was impressed by the book; I thought it was a good read and I thought he did an excellent job researching the matter. I remember from past posts, that Daniel and many people on this site thought that he would be a significant favorite over Howard Lederer, even in limit hold 'em. After reading the book (and granted I've never played against or seen either of them play heads up limit hold em) I would have to believe that Lederer would be a significant favorite. I was surprised by the fact that Beal refused to play Lederer out of all of the big names in the corporation on his third visit (if memory serves me correctly) and it seems as though Lederer along with Todd Brunson, won the most money from Beal. Anyway, it was a great book and I would appreciate anyone else's view on the matter Banker is great, but it is not about the "big game. " People who want to learn more about the big game will be confused by this moniker. It is about a series of heads up freeze outs for ultra-high takes against players from the big game. I understand you know this but calling it the "big game" is confusing and will mislead people. It is a great read just the same. Link to post Share on other sites
pong1092 0 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I just finished. Been reading strategry books for the past few weeks and decided to try this. It was a good read. Only problem was it was 30 bucks at barnes and noble which is expenisive for just a book like this that I dont really gain anything other then some cool stories to read about. Didnt really go to any details about any of the hands. But once i started reading it i couldnt put the book down. Took about 3 hours to finish its a well writing book that is definetly fair to both sides. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I just finished. Been reading strategry books for the past few weeks and decided to try this. It was a good read. Only problem was it was 30 bucks at barnes and noble which is expenisive for just a book like this that I dont really gain anything other then some cool stories to read about. Didnt really go to any details about any of the hands. But once i started reading it i couldnt put the book down. Took about 3 hours to finish its a well writing book that is definetly fair to both sides.Next time buy a cup of coffee and sit in Barnes and Nobles for 3 hours to read the book. Link to post Share on other sites
lefty300 0 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 great book!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Scariest part of that book:When I found out Todd Brunson and Howard Ledderer both had dated Jenifer Harmon and she and Todd had moved in together!I dunno why I was so surprised by it, but I was. Link to post Share on other sites
brian67 0 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 That book gave me even more respect for Lederer and Forest. That first night of the game where forest crashed the game and sat in between Reese and Beal was great. I also had no idea how hard Lederer had it growing up. I have nothing but respect for those two. Link to post Share on other sites
Pokerghost2 0 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Scariest part of that book:When I found out Todd Brunson and Howard Ledderer both had dated Jenifer Harmon and she and Todd had moved in together!I dunno why I was so surprised by it, but I was.howard lederer? im very surprised by that. Link to post Share on other sites
pokepoke1967 0 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 It always gets mentioned that the Beal matches weren't the "big game", and that is true. But, I think the Beal matches were one of the reasons that the stakes in the big game have increased so much in recent years. Before Beal came to play the stakes were "only" $1000/$2000. He drove the stakes much higher just in his 1st visit. Link to post Share on other sites
167-169 0 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Scariest part of that book:When I found out Todd Brunson and Howard Ledderer both had dated Jenifer Harmon and she and Todd had moved in together!I dunno why I was so surprised by it, but I was.that is scary! nasty too! ugh! all that greasy bacon.harmon is so tiny and seems so sweet, glad she's with a dude thats in shape now. Link to post Share on other sites
bdams19 0 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 wasn't lederer living on park benches in new york for while? Link to post Share on other sites
T_Mac 0 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 Scariest part of that book:When I found out Todd Brunson and Howard Ledderer both had dated Jenifer Harmon and she and Todd had moved in together!I dunno why I was so surprised by it, but I was.oh man that is weird to think about. Was that back when Howard was real big too? Well they probably had really good conversations at least Link to post Share on other sites
The Czar 0 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 After reading that, I'm immediately sending my picture to Jennifer Harmon. Link to post Share on other sites
jack24bauer24 0 Posted July 22, 2005 Share Posted July 22, 2005 After reading that, I'm immediately sending my picture to Jennifer Harmon.*giggles* Link to post Share on other sites
theresa113 0 Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 This book is awesome! I am almost done with it, probably an hour left of reading which I will commence shortly.Someone mentioned that they did not get much out of it since it is not a strategy book. Though this is not a how to play this hand in this scenerio, there is a lot to learn from this story. And even if you do not take any learning experience away from this book, it is extremely entertaining and engaging. Anyway... I am off to read the last few chapters. I highly recommend this book! Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Fun read, author isn't half the writer McManus is, but still entertaining. My favorite part of the book is the first chapter. Forrest is driving back to Vegas from LA, calls the Bellagio to see what the biggest game going is, and they tell him it's $10,000/$20,000. His reaction is Jon Stewart rubbing eyes with palms saying, "WHAAAA?" Then he has the balls to go and sit with his entire bankroll, almost lose the entire thing, then end up about a mil. That's good drama. Link to post Share on other sites
okstatepike 0 Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Fun read, author isn't half the writer McManus is, but still entertaining. My favorite part of the book is the first chapter. Forrest is driving back to Vegas from LA, calls the Bellagio to see what the biggest game going is, and they tell him it's $10,000/$20,000. His reaction is Jon Stewart rubbing eyes with palms saying, "WHAAAA?" Then he has the balls to go and sit with his entire bankroll, almost lose the entire thing, then end up about a mil. That's good drama.I'll have to agree about the writer. I loved this book but it did not come close to Positvely Fifth Street. I thought it was a more interesting look into the playing lives of some of today's big names. Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyz 0 Posted September 14, 2005 Share Posted September 14, 2005 Great read couldn't put it down. I think the most interesting part was how bad these top pros are with their money. These guys have no money management skills. Kind of makes you laugh when you go back and read what some people think the top pros have as a BR (i.e I believe some moron thought doyle had a $40M BR)They were shitting bricks when they individually took a 300K hit. That probably didn't damage Doyle too much but if beal would have won back to back a lot of the "big names" would have gone broke.(for a while anyway) Link to post Share on other sites
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