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If this isn't the truth, then why don't you enlighten us and tell us what he did tip. Since you're such good buds.You have no right to berate anyone if you can't give us a reason why this isn't true.
Hold on a second, you're telling me I have no right to berate you guys if I can't supply a prrof that he tipped ... but you guys CAN berate someone on a rumour???? Innocent until proven guilty... ever heard of it? I shouldn't have to convince you that he tipped... YOU should find the evidence that he didn't tip accordingly before slandering someone. Idiot!Wake up to yourself.
It isn't slander if you do it in writing. It's libel, idiot!
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I certainly hope he went and individually tipped dealers. I know he was grateful to a number of Harrah's staff - personally thanking one (Nicole Khouri) right after winning. I also know that one dealer in particular (the one with the bulbous nose) really messed him up via dealer error - aggressively mucking his pocket aces after a raise and a call on Day 4.Let's wait and see before casting judgement on this guy.

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I am sure i am in the minority here and I'm also sure i will get killed for this, but the dealer's do get paid and it is not compulsory to tip more than their "take" .. I have no problem with him leaving $100 or anything .. or nothing ..It is his choice ..I think from a karma and good will perspective, he should have left a bunch of money -- 10-25k .. but the option is his ..

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In 2000 when James McManus placed 5th in the M.E. he tipped 3.3% of his profit! I don't feel that i should be expected to tip anything unless i like there service, but in gambling tipping big is the norm. I heard that the new champ has been a full time Pro for 3 years now. If he never plans on staying in Vegas fine take the money and run otherwise home can be hell.

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I swear after every major tourney these rumours come up.So I looked and looked through this thread and didn't find one bit of evidence to substantiate this claim. Furthermore, even if it's a fact he tipped $100 we know nothing of the context and should probably reserve judgement for when we find out the circumstances.

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this is ridiculous. the dealers are gainfully employed, receive wages equal to their jobs, plus tips for working the tournament. by a coincidence, they happen to deal the winning hand, so they strike it rich? stupid and pointless.if you feel obligated, leave $100, or even $1000. if you really feel like giving away a large sum of money, like $50000, leave it to a charity or something worthwhile. don't reward coincidences, reward need.

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if people want to tip thats fine and if people dont want to tip thats fine also IMO. tipping is getting ridiculas. what next are people supposed to start tipping a worker at a clothing store because he or she put on a fake ****in smile and gave u a receipt.

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this is ridiculous. the dealers are gainfully employed, receive wages equal to their jobs, plus tips for working the tournament. by a coincidence, they happen to deal the winning hand, so they strike it rich? stupid and pointless.if you feel obligated, leave $100, or even $1000. if you really feel like giving away a large sum of money, like $50000, leave it to a charity or something worthwhile. don't reward coincidences, reward need.
what he said, they do a task any 16 year old kid could do with the same training they got so explain to me a again how there job is different then the mcdonalds kid you all make fun of and don't tip, for putting up with just as much crap and maybe even completing a more demanding job. can't wait to get flamed on this but dealers expecting me to tip after i bluff a guy out of a pot is flat or retardard i know they dont' make much money as a base salary but that is there choice in life. I just got back form vegas was playing 1 2 nolimt and i normally do tip and for sure when on vacation, and a dealer from a different casnio comes in drunk and sits at my table, and i bluff a pot and didn't tip the dealer and he goes on some rant about how people wouldn't forget to tip if they needed that money. they have a dealer switch and this guy and the new guy are talking, new dealer goes ya my wife wants me to quit dealing casue i don't make enough money, guy complaining about people not tipping goes "really you dont make enough as a dealer that is hard to beileve." i guess that just pissed me off one breath saying how pooor and broke dealers anf next saying how can you not deal you make tons of money.
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i think the $100 was meant for the actual dealer than dealt the final hand, if not it doesnt make sense.but im of the opinion that the 3% tip out of the prize pool IS the tip, and its up to him wether he wants to give more. obviously he can afford to give thousands, but since a tip was already taken out i think he has the legitemate option to donate nothing extra.Steve Dannenman won 4.5million, should he have to pay 45,000 extra tip? should all final table players pay a 1% tip, or all players in the money? i just dont see where it fits in that the winner has to tip so large when the dealers and staff are already being compensated for there hard work.

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I had to laugh when I saw this post, because I wasn't surprised at all. I was a waiter for years in a tourist town where many Australians came through. I would hate to wait on them b/c they DON'T tip. If the bill was over $35, they would maybe leave $1-2 max. They were known for their horrible tipping. That being said, I know that is how they were raised and what they are used to, but whatever happened to "When in Rome...?" I like the point made earlier too that if he's going to be hanging around American casinos playing, he should probably learn the proper tipping etiqutte. Unless, of course, he really is just a cheap b astard.

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This is just truly sad if its true. That guy should be passing out $100 bills at the craps table screaming, "get yourself some of this Lucky money".It's sad we didn't get a champion thats going to be anywhere close to the class act Raymer was. Not that I am a huge Raymer fan or anything but the guy was truly a class act and a great ambassador of poker during his reign as world champion.this guy is a lucky scrub and for all i care can go back to Austrailia and start a kangaroo farm.

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On a side note:Because I have not playe din the USA I am curious: is it customary to tip all dealers? If I play roulette, blackjack craps etc... and have a win am I expected to tip?
Yes most people who have a nice win in a table game give something to the dealer.
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I did the math, and with 300 dealers which is what I heard that they had the dealers only received 3,666.99 each (including 1/300th of the $100 ), well I don't know about you, but I think they made out just fine. If they expect a big tip at the end QUIT JACKING THE TIP FROM THE PRIZE POOL UP FRONT. I for one am always happy to tip as long as service fees/etc have not been subtracted from my buyin. The point of these fees is to make sure that the dealers don't get screwed in the end.

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If it was me who won the ME, I would do one of two things. Tip the dealers in appropriate amount of money OR nothing at all. I would choose the later. The 3% toke taken out of the entry fees is a substantial amount of money going to the dealers already. I don't think it's necessary to give more.Now when you give 100 bux as your dealer tip, that looks like a major SLAP in their face. Its like stiffing a server who you thought sucked.

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if i won 7.5 million, the person that dealt me the winner, would be hooked up for sure.The point here is the ridiculous 1st place money and to leave $100 as a tip? Come'on that insulting.

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If they expect a big tip at the end QUIT JACKING THE TIP FROM THE PRIZE POOL UP FRONT.
Ive also read that the casino puts you through something of a shakedown while your getting your winnings to get you to fork over even more in tips. If you go out of your way to fleece me for a tip you can expect two things, jack and shit.
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you dont think them making $1,684,800 is enough already? I would tip the final dealer of the final table thats it.
If you do the math - number of tables each day times 15 hours a day then each dealer got $122 an hour from the 3% of "other people's money."The amount goes up because obviously each dealer didn't deal the whole day because of tables being broken down, breaks, etc. My estimate is so conservative that it is probably close to $200.I'm not saying don't tip - but the dealer's aren't getting screwed here.
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You guys are incredible! Most of you are probably still in school or college and love to spread gossip wether it is substantiated or not. Grow up!Give the dude the benefit of the doubt. How the hell do you all know what took place behind closed doors? Slandering this guys name, calling him a cheapskate... and what do you know of the facts????For a start, you guys only "know" this cause you heard soemone else tell you... and you are furthering the rumour if you accuse him in this way...just 'cause you heard someone say it doesn't mean its true.Secondly, the USA is one of the few cultures in the world where tipping is the norm. In Australia (where he is from) it is actaully against the law and house rules to tip dealers and casino workers... perhaps he is unaware of American custom, and in the flood of emotions he went through, assumed the policy to be the same. If he has failed/forgotten/unaware to tip (we dont know that he hasn't) perhaps someone will politely tap him on the shoulder and inform him of the customary thing to do. Do you really think that soemone who payed the$10K in cash to join the main event - and then won, is hard up for money?I know the guy, and I can assure you he ALWAYS does the right and moral thing. He is a class act and a stand up guy.
From what I saw on the interviews, everything you say about him seems right. I'm pretty sure once he finds out that he's supposed to tip alittle more, he gladly will. I feel he was just unaware of the proper customs. No need to make the guy out to be a devil.
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If it was me who won the ME, I would do one of two things. Tip the dealers in appropriate amount of money OR nothing at all. I would choose the later. The 3% toke taken out of the entry fees is a substantial amount of money going to the dealers already. I don't think it's necessary to give more.Now when you give 100 bux as your dealer tip, that looks like a major SLAP in their face. Its like stiffing a server who you thought sucked.
I think it was probably more of a statement like he doesn't agree with the whole 3% taken out of the prize pool thing, and I for one agree with him. Why should we be forced to tip out for a service that we have not received.
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