a poker puzzle

[....Ian.... 0]

it is impossible for smash not to get the 'last word' in. which makes me question his age/maturitu level.watch.. "smash is an ass hole" an un-arguable point that smash will undoubtedly argue ro come back with something condescending

[Guest Anonymous]

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[Huge Pair 0]

Here is another good one I thought of, is there anyway that you could have a 2 being used as a high card in your 5 card hand?

Board: AAAA2YOU: 22I was going to try and squeeze in some bizarre twist with a volcano, but I already used that one today.

I guess the question wasn't as hard as I thought it would be.

[....Ian.... 0]

Hey Smash- How are the gay romance novels coming along?  How is your wife Scott doing?About the AuthorScott Pomfret and Scott Whittier met, fell in love and now live together in Boston, Massachusetts. We realized the story of our romance wasn’t the only one out there. So we created Romentics, a line of romance novels for all gay men who believe in happily ever after. We know firsthand the excitement and challenges of falling in love in a modern gay world. And we know how to write steamy literature. We’re both published writers, and both appear in Friction 7, Alyson Book’s newest collection of the year’s best erotic gay fiction. Fall in love with all the novels at www.Romentics.com.  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...ks&n=507846

and thus began the anarchy of FCP

[MBrady 0]

Here is another good one I thought of, is there anyway that you could have a 2 being used as a high card in your 5 card hand?

Board: AAAA2YOU: 22I was going to try and squeeze in some bizarre twist with a volcano, but I already used that one today.

I guess the question wasn't as hard as I thought it would be.

Unfortunately, this is also one of the rare times that you will NECESSARILY lose at at showdown. An un-winnable hand. It's kind of like the nuts.

[NickG 0]

What is wrong with some people on this forum? Someone posts a mildly interesting poker puzzle on the board, and instantly people start flaming him and demand that he pay them money? Puzzles like this often involve looking at all the different ways you could interpret the words. Just take it for what it is and don't waste your time posting a hundred flames.

[clashcityrocker 0]

Yes you do have the nuts. You have an unbeatable hand. You are wrong on this one Smasharoo. Using your logic to an extreme, you could say that you only have the nuts if you have a royal flush. Of course this is wrong, you simply cannot grasp that the nuts is dependent on the cards that an individual is aware of (this includes the board and your own hole cards). Or rather you can grasp it yet are unable to admit that your understanding of the nuts was wrong?Apparently, it can't be explained adequately to you.Unfortunately, I'm not a special needs teacher, so I'm not sure how to aproach this. I'd reccomend you just go build a house out of popsicle sticks, I guess.If you can't see the diffrence between the nuts being the best possible hand given the board and the best possible hand given what one individual player holds, I can't help you.If you're going to use your defintion, you could say A high is the nuts if someone knocks the deck over and you see all of the other cards.It's pointless and meaningless and innaccurate.As you also are mrerely arguing for no reason other than to argue, you've been added to my "non existant" list. You no longer exist to me. Take care.

I see a lot of people argue with you for no reason other than to argue on this forum. I am not trying to do that. You think that the term 'the nuts' relies solely on what the board shows. This is wrong. To an observer the best possible hand would be quad jacks, but the guy holding jack ten has the nuts. He knows he can't be beat, and isn't that the whole point of 'the nuts'? Knowing that you have a hand that will definitely win at showdown?

[asorewinner 0]

smash said goodbye to this thread and came back again and again...lol......he hates it when he doesnt get the last word.

[ol'number7 0]

I agree with Clash City & DNhell of a thread

[Golden 2]

The question was badly worded, but I don't agree with Smash either. It is absolutely a gray area.And Smash, you have got to be the sh1ttiest debater on the planet.

[doudave 0]

if the board is K K A 8 2 and rainbow. well if one holds AK and the other AA they both have the second nuts in this situation and the AA would win. KK obviously being the nuts.let me know

[alf13 0]

If you have the nuts on the wall....would they be wall nuts?YESIf you have the nuts on your chest would they be chest nuts?YESSo if you have the nuts on your chin...would they be chin nuts?NO....You would have a censored in your mouth.

[pokerloser 0]

I have nothing of substance to add here. Just using this lame thread to add to my post count. :-)

[CaptainHooks 0]

So was there a final answer Posoo??? I'm genuinely curious

[Guest]

I had assumed partial information was part of the answer, as that is the only way it could possibly have an answer, so the 2 answers given so far are correct. If you disagree, I suppose it is just a semantics argument. The wording of the question was a little vague and made an assumption about partial information. But does anyone recall when DN and Deeb were heads up (forget what the show was called) and the board showed AA9xx? At the end, DN said, "yeah, I got the nuts" and flipped A9. So by DN's own definition of the nuts, the OP is correct. This is DN's site after all.

Well played.

[case ace 0]

I think I have a legitimate answer. Let's say the board is KKJJ2. One player has AK, and has the second nuts because he is only beat by JJ. The other player has JJ, and has the second nuts because he is only beaten by KK. I win. Where's my prize?

touche!

not bad

[Guest Anonymous]

I think I have a legitimate answer. Let's say the board is KKJJ2. One player has AK, and has the second nuts because he is only beat by JJ. The other player has JJ, and has the second nuts because he is only beaten by KK. I win. Where's my prize?

touche!

not bad

Zimmer you are the smartest ************ on this site

[Spademan 94]

Hey Smash- How are the gay romance novels coming along? How is your wife Scott doing?About the AuthorScott Pomfret and Scott Whittier met, fell in love and now live together in Boston, Massachusetts. We realized the story of our romance wasn’t the only one out there. So we created Romentics, a line of romance novels for all gay men who believe in happily ever after. We know firsthand the excitement and challenges of falling in love in a modern gay world. And we know how to write steamy literature. We’re both published writers, and both appear in Friction 7, Alyson Book’s newest collection of the year’s best erotic gay fiction. Fall in love with all the novels at www.Romentics.com. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...ks&n=507846

I understand you think you're getting one in on smash here...But I guess you don't realize your post just shows you go looking for gay romance novels.

[DeadMoney6545 0]

Smasharooooooos wrote:

I have lots of freinds.

If ya feel the need to state something like this on a Forum such as this and u lead the whole fucking world in posts and are (as it seems to me) on the forum 24/7....I've gotta call HorseShit on this one..Not a huge deal though... Ur the god of small stakes poker and somewhat of a god to many young boys on the forum...And i applaud your commitment to DANIELS FORUM...But you u definately crushed this guy and i personally dont think all the flaming u did to this kid was needed...Just my 2 cents...Flame Away Kiddies

[fopkins 0]

My opinion plain and simple.The nuts = an unbeatable hand.On a board of KKT52, if you hold KT you have the nuts because you know KK is not possible.(I agree with the OP)On a side note, I also think Smash is a ****ing moron after reading this thread.-fop

[Randy Reed 0]

Posoo and Trebor were at a picnic playing cards when at the showdown, a squirrell first bites Trebor in the nuts, then bites Posoo in the nuts, now Posoo is effectively grasping the second nuts, but the pot gets awarded to Trebor since he took off running with the money. Pay up!

[rsmbox 1]

Posoo and Trebor were at a picnic playing cards when at the showdown, a squirrell first bites Trebor in the nuts, then bites Posoo in the nuts, now Posoo is effectively grasping the second nuts, but the pot gets awarded to Trebor since he took off running with the money. Pay up!

no way to top that :-)

[gadjet 11]

NEW LIGHT ON AN OLD SUBJECT Here's another way of looking at the question to prove that his opening definition is wrong, he says both players hold the second nuts. By hyis definition we are using the partial information of one players hole cards...So we are using the information of each players hole cards to define what the second nuts are... if you look at it from either players hole cards this is how it works out:On a board ofK 10 10 2 4Player A has K-10 and he considers himself to hold the second nuts, he can only be beaten by the nuts which is KKPlayer B has KK and he considers himelf to hold the second nuts, he can only be beaten by the nuts which is 10 10. If we look from Player A's perspective, it turns out that Player B is holding the nuts . Player B is not holding the second nuts as posoo indicates in his poker puzzle. So this scenario does not work.If we look from Player B's perspective, he is holding the second nuts and Player A is holding the third nuts. So if you're initial question uses the information of either players hole cards as the guidelines for defining what the nuts, second nuts and third nuts are... then your puzzle doesn't work... and Smash still wins his bet.

[jlgosse 0]

Maybe they both have the second nuts, but one player also has the nuts, with the second nuts in his hand?I'm pretty sure I'm right!

[tavatara 0]

But does anyone recall when DN and Deeb were heads up (forget what the show was called) and the board showed AA9xx? At the end, DN said, "yeah, I got the nuts" and flipped A9. So by DN's own definition of the nuts, the OP is correct. This is DN's site after all.

but a player with AK would effectively hold the nutsDo you understand the meaning of that word?

What a donk Daniel is. Didn't he know he only effectively held the nuts? Freddy shoulda called him on it.