big game

[BigSlick05 0]

Anyone know if there was a big winner in the big game? Or even a big loser? I know its tough to get accurate info on cash games....also, does this game end now that the WS is over?

[Schneider 0]

The 4-8 game is daily.I would guess that there are consistent losers and winners. Chip, Phil, and Barry are my guesses at the consistent winners.

[BeanGW 0]

I was under the impression the Big Game is going on fairly regularly and is not WSOP dependent. Ivey, Greenstein, Chau Giang, Jen Harmon, and the Brunsons are regulars... though I couldn't tell you who the champ is, I think they all do fairly well for themselves.

[BigSlick05 0]

I believe its normally 2000-4000 and turns to 4000-8000 during the wsop. thus, the "big game"

[ambooth 0]

I have watched the big game live in both Vegas & in Tunica. When there is a 10,000 dollar buy in tournament and the big game players are there, they play it...Daniel also talked about them playing it in LA earlier this year.People playing the night I saw the game in Tunica:Doyle, Daniel, Phil, Chip, Jen Harmon, Chau Ging, Lyle Berman, Gus Hansen... And I think someone else but I can't remember... I remember it being 9 players that night because the big joke in the poker room all night was that there was a seat open on 12 (the table number they were playing at).I have always heard that Gus Hansen is a consistent loser in the game, but that is strictly rumors I have heard hanging around the poker room, not confirmed by anyone...

[NicksDad1970 0]

I have watched the big game live in both Vegas & in Tunica. When there is a 10,000 dollar buy in tournament and the big game players are there, they play it...Daniel also talked about them playing it in LA earlier this year.People playing the night I saw the game in Tunica:Doyle, Daniel, Phil, Chip, Jen Harmon, Chau Ging, Lyle Berman, Gus Hansen... And I think someone else but I can't remember... I remember it being 9 players that night because the big joke in the poker room all night was that there was a seat open on 12 (the table number they were playing at).I have always heard that Gus Hansen is a consistent loser in the game, but that is strictly rumors I have heard hanging around the poker room, not confirmed by anyone...

The person you may be forgetting in Tunica is Sam Farha.

[Schneider 0]

I believe its normally 2000-4000 and turns to 4000-8000 during the wsop. thus, the "big game"

pretty sure its always 4-8

[ckbandit 0]

I believe its normally 2000-4000 and turns to 4000-8000 during the wsop. thus, the "big game"

pretty sure its always 4-8

it is

[slash 0]

I believe its normally 2000-4000 and turns to 4000-8000 during the wsop. thus, the "big game"

pretty sure its always 4-8

it is

No, it isn't. There's a number of ways to confirm this, but we'll start with the most recent. During the Cardplayer broadcast of the WSOP ME Final Table, Jennifer Harman and one of the other broadcasters were talking about how high-stakes poker becomes mcuh more psychological than it is mathematical. She said, and this is nearly a direct quote, "Well, you know, in our game at the Bellagio, which is either $2000-4000 or $4000-8000, you hardly play the cards at all sometimes...." It is both $2k/4k and $4k/8k, depending on who is playing and how many there are at the table.

[BeanGW 0]

I have watched the big game live in both Vegas & in Tunica. When there is a 10,000 dollar buy in tournament and the big game players are there, they play it...

A. The Big Game is the 4k-8k game at the Bellagio in Vegas. I'm sure there are big games in Tunica as well, but the Bellagio is the one commonly refered to as The Big Game.B. A 10k buyin would be incredibly silly for those limits. I'm sure it's more like 200k.C. It's not a tourney, it's a cash game.

[fatmanonguitar 0]

By self-reports, Greenstein, Reese, Ivey, Brunson, Harman, Giang, etc. all have success at the big game. Either there are some bad players sitting in donating or some of them are lying.

[bdams19 0]

He said 10k buy in tourney, so I'm sure he is referring to the side games afterwards with buyins much larger.

[kouta43 0]

th 10k was referring to tourney buy in not the buy in for the cash game

[econ_tim 0]

I have watched the big game live in both Vegas & in Tunica. When there is a 10,000 dollar buy in tournament and the big game players are there, they play it...

A. The Big Game is the 4k-8k game at the Bellagio in Vegas. I'm sure there are big games in Tunica as well, but the Bellagio is the one commonly refered to as The Big Game.B. A 10k buyin would be incredibly silly for those limits. I'm sure it's more like 200k.C. It's not a tourney, it's a cash game.

I'm glad everyone knows so much about the big game.Ambooth meant that whenever there was a 10k buy-in tournament (thus one that the top pros would likely attend) the big game will be played at the tournament sight.Since no one's mentioned this, the big game is a mixed game, meaning they play hold'em, stud, omaha, some hi-lo, and probably other games if they feel like it.

[slash 0]

I have watched the big game live in both Vegas & in Tunica. When there is a 10,000 dollar buy in tournament and the big game players are there, they play it...

A. The Big Game is the 4k-8k game at the Bellagio in Vegas. I'm sure there are big games in Tunica as well, but the Bellagio is the one commonly refered to as The Big Game.B. A 10k buyin would be incredibly silly for those limits. I'm sure it's more like 200k.C. It's not a tourney, it's a cash game.

You're all mixed up.A) Yes, the game is generally played at Bellagio, but not always. It moves around sometimes, and it is still called The Big Game when it does. For example, sometimes the CEO of the Bellagio likes to play in it. But he can't play in his own casino because of the conflict of interest. So then they go to Caesars or Mirage, I believe. The game also happens sometimes at Commerce in LA, and there's no reason it couldn't happen in Tunica, too.B) He wasn't talking about a 10k buy in for that game. He said when there is a 10k buy in tournament, and the people who play in the Big Game are there for that tournament, they usually get the Big Game going on the side.C) Learn to read.

[ckbandit 0]

I believe its normally 2000-4000 and turns to 4000-8000 during the wsop. thus, the "big game"

pretty sure its always 4-8

it is

No, it isn't. There's a number of ways to confirm this, but we'll start with the most recent. During the Cardplayer broadcast of the WSOP ME Final Table, Jennifer Harman and one of the other broadcasters were talking about how high-stakes poker becomes mcuh more psychological than it is mathematical. She said, and this is nearly a direct quote, "Well, you know, in our game at the Bellagio, which is either $2000-4000 or $4000-8000, you hardly play the cards at all sometimes...." It is both $2k/4k and $4k/8k, depending on who is playing and how many there are at the table.

I really don't think that confirms anything. If she played $1-$2, would that be the "big game"? Obviously they don't spread $4000-$8000 like they do others, but when referring to the big game, I don't think its the $2,000-$4,000. See the thread in which Barry comments on DN playing in the 2nd tier.It's just my understanding. I'll have no problem admitting I'm wrong, but haven't seen (or cared) too much to the contrary.

[slash 0]

No. Here's the thing you fail to understand: The Big Game is not something that some place just spreads to get some players to play it. The Bellagio, or wherever else, spreads it because those players request it. Shit, Bellagio built a special room for it. Even if they're only playing $2,000-4,000, it is still the biggest game anywhere, and thus, The Big Game."The Big Game" refers to a select group of people, most of whom have already been mentioned, that have a regular game that they revolve in and out of, that is played for the highest stakes of any poker game in the world.

[rsigley 0]

When I was in Vegas last year, I was at Sam's Town and they were playing the "Big Game" there, so it's not only held at the Bellagio. If you want to know about the big game read the book The Professor, The Banker, and the Suicide King, the author pretty much covers everything.

[BeanGW 0]

Just wanted to say my apologies for misreading that post. Basically all the Big Game stories I had ever heard involved the Bellagio, so that's why I figured it was always there.

[cashinnow 0]

I was always under the impression that the "big game" was the heads up matches with Andy Beal and "The Corporation" not the 4k-8k game that the big name pros play against each other at the Beliago or when they are on the tournament tour!

[Silly_11 0]

what's the rake in the big game?

[econ_tim 0]

I was always under the impression that the "big game" was the heads up matches with Andy Beal and "The Corporation" not the 4k-8k game that the big name pros play against each other at the Beliago or when they are on the tournament tour!

Great to see that everyone has a point of view.I used to think the big game was hopscotch on the sidewalk outside of my apartment.But the Andy Beal matches are not the big game. The 4K-8K game regularly spread at the Bellagio (and sometimes elsewhere) is.

[benhoug 0]

what's the rake in the big game?

No rake. They pay a time fee, something like $10 every half hour - which makes the $7 per half our rake at the 2/5 blind NL game at the Trump in Indiana seem insanely high.

[slash 0]

what's the rake in the big game?

No rake. They pay a time fee, something like $10 every half hour

I'm just speculating, but I'd be willing to guess that the time charge for the Big Game is more than $10/half.

[MilesZS 0]

The Big game is played several different places, depending on where the majority of the regulars are at the time, so someone got that right.As far as blinds go... duh. It's a $4k/8k game -- which means the BLINDS in LIMIT GAMES are $2k/$4k, and the bets are $4k/$8k. I think that should clear up the argument. Different games are played different ways, so one game blinds might actually be $4k/$8k, and in other games they might be $2k/$4k. Glad to see we were all thinking hard about this one. The Andy Beal game is 'a' big game, but not The Big Game. The Andy Beal game should, if anything, be called the Dick-Waving Game. Something to that effect. I believe $4k/$8k games are actually played other places as well, but it is not called The Big Game if it doesn't involve the regular players from... The Big Game. I believe there's a place in LA that spreads a $4k/$8k stud game, but I could be mistaken. The above paragraph is full of hear-say and speculation.The rest of it is true. I know this because I spend way too much time paying attention to it and reading about it everywhere.