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[mbreon 0]

Hey im a great online player and im waiting for someone to stake me!Ask anyone here im quite a trustworthy person.

Trebor, you are a thief and a douchebag. No one likes you. Go home to mommy.

[case ace 0]

I don't know why I waste my time responding to posts like this. I was trying to help both parties involved to ensure some sort of stability. For those being staked, and those who are staking. It's never easy and can get quite shady at times.The irony is, the guy who made this post ends up saying........."It may be a few more months but i do need players who are interested pm only if you are very serious. There will be a rigiorous try-out, and festidious inspection. Again this may take a very long time to establish. "I wish all parties luck IF this ends up materializing.

I guess he's just trying to get a head start and plan everything out well before he starts, I still think the online cash game thing for 5/10 might not be a great idea. It seems too hard and too risky to be worth while

Exactly, if i'm gonna get investors' money involved i need to have a huge network of players. I am not here to waste their time or yours. In a couple day the site will be up and I'll post a link. But like any good network business, the network needs to be there 1st. Steve:"I was trying to help both parties involved to ensure some sort of stability"And steve do you have just opinions or do you work for a poker room? How can you ensure stablity? I am sorry, I just am not aware of what your position is at this forum or in your day job. I'm all ears, and if you want to get on board, I'm more than willing to listen. I have legal people working on the deposits, but i would like to hear what you have to say, esp if you are on the inside. You keep wetting my palate, but no posts :cry: . As far as 5/10, yes it is a waste of time and yes, everyone will either need to be playing, have hand histories of 3/6 or 5/10. And 5/10, 10/20 is risky and not worth while, but that is where everyone will start, with the expectations of moving up very quickly. (if you wanna be staked at 15/30 or 20/40 great but in most circustances you need to make money for us at 5/10, 10/20 1st to prove your +ev.PS. Yes, we will be staking tourney's, but that is not our primary goal. Most likely you will not be staked in tournies without being one of our limit players, as well. The tourney spots will obviously be offered to them 1st. Once up and running, tourny stakes will probably generate a big portion of income, but the fluctuations are not worth the risk at the begining.

[jayboogie 0]

What your offering to do here is fine and all, but I don't think your going to find too many interested that are good players. You'll find many that are losing players though that want a stake. The good players that need a stake usually are live players that have bad money management and love to shoot craps or the other gambling games. Online players don't have this problem where they'll lose their poker winnings playing blackjack and etc. The point is if your a winning player, your not going to want to chop part of your profits. If your beating the 10/20, 15/30 games, you'll build your bankroll up quickly anyways not needing a stake. Really, I think the only players this will interest are losing players that think they're winning. Good luck to you on this though.

[Diabolical 0]

if that is what you are looking for, then I am the one your looking for.I do not have poker tracker. But i will be willing to prove my skills at any time, and with anybody. AND I MEAN ANYBODY. I have been staked before at the B & M casinos. If your looking for a real poker player who knows what it takes to win, then i believe we can help each other through this venture.

[Diabolical 0]

As far as the "trust" issue you guys are talking about. This player, "trebor" that robbed someone from FCP has ruined his rep. It will get around to everyone, and we will all know not to deal with him. That's how it's done at the B&M casinos.I've been posting here since 12/04. If I ripp anyone off, then everyone will know and my image will be trashed. I don't want that to happen. It's not positive EV.

[steve7stud 0]

I don't know why I waste my time responding to posts like this. I was trying to help both parties involved to ensure some sort of stability. For those being staked, and those who are staking. It's never easy and can get quite shady at times.The irony is, the guy who made this post ends up saying........."It may be a few more months but i do need players who are interested pm only if you are very serious. There will be a rigiorous try-out, and festidious inspection. Again this may take a very long time to establish. "I wish all parties luck IF this ends up materializing.

I guess he's just trying to get a head start and plan everything out well before he starts, I still think the online cash game thing for 5/10 might not be a great idea. It seems too hard and too risky to be worth while

Exactly, if i'm gonna get investors' money involved i need to have a huge network of players. I am not here to waste their time or yours. In a couple day the site will be up and I'll post a link. But like any good network business, the network needs to be there 1st. Steve:"I was trying to help both parties involved to ensure some sort of stability"And steve do you have just opinions or do you work for a poker room? How can you ensure stablity? I am sorry, I just am not aware of what your position is at this forum or in your day job. I'm all ears, and if you want to get on board, I'm more than willing to listen. I have legal people working on the deposits, but i would like to hear what you have to say, esp if you are on the inside. You keep wetting my palate, but no posts :cry: . As far as 5/10, yes it is a waste of time and yes, everyone will either need to be playing, have hand histories of 3/6 or 5/10. And 5/10, 10/20 is risky and not worth while, but that is where everyone will start, with the expectations of moving up very quickly. (if you wanna be staked at 15/30 or 20/40 great but in most circustances you need to make money for us at 5/10, 10/20 1st to prove your +ev.PS. Yes, we will be staking tourney's, but that is not our primary goal. Most likely you will not be staked in tournies without being one of our limit players, as well. The tourney spots will obviously be offered to them 1st. Once up and running, tourny stakes will probably generate a big portion of income, but the fluctuations are not worth the risk at the begining.

It seems like what you are trying to do is form a network of people to "stake". But essentially, a lot of poeple have come on to this forum and said just that. When in fact they were trying to promote a rake back program.As for who I am, it's not that difficult to find out. Just do a search with my name in it and read the posts. My real question is, who are you?

[Smasharoo 0]

You should stake Steve to play 1/2 Stud.I think that'd be a good investment.

[econ_tim 0]

probably no more than for 5/10----10/20. with out really showing returnNo one who can beat 5/10 or 10/20 needs to be staked.Lots of people who can't do, though.I'd take that into consideration.

A little bit of adverse selection mixed in with some moral hazard.You should do this so I can write a paper on why it failed.

[steve7stud 0]

You should stake Steve to play 1/2 Stud.I think that'd be a good investment.

LMAO. Why not .05/.10?

[Smasharoo 0]

LMAO. Why not .05/.10?LAck of rake would be an unfair advantage to make sure met the stringent performance criteria!

[steve7stud 0]

LMAO. Why not .05/.10?LAck of rake would be an unfair advantage to make sure met the stringent performance criteria!

Not true!

[case ace 0]

As for who I am' date=' it's not that difficult to find out. Just do a search with my name in it and read the posts. My real question is, who are you?[/quote[/b']]mortgage guy, northeast, doing research. This is not a rake back/shill opperation (I know what you are talking about). What i'm saying is plain as day... this is staking... not proping or advertising for the sites. if you have anything to offer great, please post :-) . as for the details, again i regret if i've been vague, the site will be up soon, and a core team will devise the contracts, Is their any specific question you have, though?Again, I'm looking for input and talent, so please post a link. What are your specific attributes? I'm still not understanding what you would like to bring to the table...And yes, i've looked through your posts, i'm still unclear.

[jayboogie 0]

Steve, I think he's tryna stake you. Maybe you want to start at 1/2 or so and work your way up? All kidding aside though, Steve is a High Limit Professional Poker Player and I'm pretty sure he just wanted to help out both sides and make sure everyone got a fair deal out of this.

[Abbaddabba 0]

I think it's a terrible idea. The vast majority will be poor players who probably think that they're good.With that in mind, where do i sign up? Seriously though, it's something i'd be interested in only because im not willing to make large deposits (or use my CC) online. I also prefer having a larger bankroll than is usually recommended (ive got well over 3k+ in poker winnings this year and i still play 2/4).

[steve7stud 0]

As for who I am' date=' it's not that difficult to find out. Just do a search with my name in it and read the posts. My real question is' date=' who are you?[/quote[/b'']]mortgage guy, northeast, doing research.  This is not a rake back/shill opperation (I know what you are talking about).  What i'm saying is plain as day... this is staking... not proping or advertising for the sites. if you have anything to offer great, please post :-) .   as for the details, again i regret if i've been vague, the site will be up soon, and a core team will devise the contracts,  Is their any specific question you have, though?Again, I'm looking for input and talent, so please post a link. What are your specific attributes?  I'm still not understanding what you would like to bring to the table...And yes, i've looked through your posts, i'm still unclear.

If you took the time to read through my posts and you're still unclear, I honestly don't know what to tell you.Brett "Gank" Jungblut is one of my best friends. If you are looking at doing anything online he is one of the most knowledgeble people that I know when it comes to online play. In addition to that, tons of well known poker players are either friends of mine or have been mentors to me at one point or another.ALL of these things are in my posts.One thing that I would like to make clear. I personally have NO desire to be staked.My initial intention was for those players on here that were looking for some help. But you're absolutely right, there is nothing that I'm bringing to the table. I wish you and those involved all the best. Good Luck.

[Mattnxtc 0]

Hey im a great online player and im waiting for someone to stake me!Ask anyone here im quite a trustworthy person.

same dude who took 50 bucks from somebody about 3 days ago....dude is a freakin cheat

[vaglvr 0]

Stop stalking players.. man its just not worth it.

[case ace 0]

As for who I am' date=' it's not that difficult to find out. Just do a search with my name in it and read the posts. My real question is' date=' who are you?[/quote[/b'']]mortgage guy, northeast, doing research. This is not a rake back/shill opperation (I know what you are talking about). What i'm saying is plain as day... this is staking... not proping or advertising for the sites. if you have anything to offer great, please post :-) . as for the details, again i regret if i've been vague, the site will be up soon, and a core team will devise the contracts, Is their any specific question you have, though?Again, I'm looking for input and talent, so please post a link. What are your specific attributes? I'm still not understanding what you would like to bring to the table...And yes, i've looked through your posts, i'm still unclear.

If you took the time to read through my posts and you're still unclear, I honestly don't know what to tell you.Brett "Gank" Jungblut is one of my best friends. If you are looking at doing anything online he is one of the most knowledgeble people that I know when it comes to online play. In addition to that, tons of well known poker players are either friends of mine or have been mentors to me at one point or another.ALL of these things are in my posts.One thing that I would like to make clear. I personally have NO desire to be staked.My initial intention was for those players on here that were looking for some help. But you're absolutely right, there is nothing that I'm bringing to the table. I wish you and those involved all the best. Good Luck.

Again, thanks for your time. If you have input/information to give please let me know. I'm not sure what these credentials have to do with anything. Are you offering Mr. Jungbut's services? If your not looking to be staked, are you looking to invest? The program is already up and running and there are #'s you can look at for that. We do growth funds and CD's. Anyone else interested please let me know.PLEASE READ VERY CAREFULLY. THOSE WHO CAN'T FOLLOW DIRECTIONS CAN'T BE STAKEDAs for all the PMs: If you have already sent me one. please send another BRIEF PM with:-Email address, location, age.-Do You multitable? How many do you play on average-Your game of choice and the limits you play, or the games you have hand histories for.- How many hours you play a week and on what sites.-Your average monthly poker income. and real income.-Breif outline of your poker AND real life exp. (include what you do for a -living currently and your qualifacations.)-Whether your looking to invest or play-Why you should be staked. I DO NOT want essays. 50 words OR LESS on why you are a winning player, yet need money.

[chipinchair 0]

I think that there are good players out there who need to be staked. I am in a somewhat unique position where I play for the month and use the profit to pay for quite a few things (flying lessons, car payments, travel/fun, etc...). So here is the situation, at the end of the month I usually profit $1K-1.5K of which I use about $900-$1200 of the money to pay for the aforementioned things (among others). This means that at the beginning of the month I only have $100-300 to use to make the months money -- this puts me in the lowest limit ($25NL or $1/$2 Limit) games where I need to grind out a bankroll and slowly move up to bigger games. I can consistently beat the lower limit games and higher limit games, however, with a decent bankroll (i.e. I never cash out or am staked) I could consistently play at the higher levels and grind out more cash. I have not had a losing month in the past 8 months, and this is while working full time and playing approximately 90-100 hours per month.That being said, if I were staked I would no longer be in a position where I am hoping variance doesn't hit me the first few days of the month (thusly destroying the BR for that month and turning a negative profit).I would like to add also that I have NO interest in being staked, I am merely giving an example where a player like me may benefit from such an endeavor.

[case ace 0]

I think that there are good players out there who need to be staked. I am in a somewhat unique position where I play for the month and use the profit to pay for quite a few things (flying lessons, car payments, travel/fun, etc...). So here is the situation, at the end of the month I usually profit $1K-1.5K of which I use about $900-$1200 of the money to pay for the aforementioned things (among others). This means that at the beginning of the month I only have $100-300 to use to make the months money -- this puts me in the lowest limit ($25NL or $1/$2 Limit) games where I need to grind out a bankroll and slowly move up to bigger games. I can consistently beat the lower limit games and higher limit games, however, with a decent bankroll (i.e. I never cash out or am staked) I could consistently play at the higher levels and grind out more cash. I have not had a losing month in the past 8 months, and this is while working full time and playing approximately 90-100 hours per month.That being said, if I were staked I would no longer be in a position where I am hoping variance doesn't hit me the first few days of the month (thusly destroying the BR for that month and turning a negative profit).I would like to add also that I have NO interest in being staked, I am merely giving an example where a player like me may benefit from such an endeavor.

you may wanna invest then. With such a large player pool, we can assume for a risk of 10% loss, we can promise returns of 100%-200% quarterly.That well get your roll up at the begining of every month, and variance will be absorbed by your investments. We will also be doing profit sharing for the 1st 2 quarters as an initial incentive.This posses another question, with numbers like this, does this sound like a good investment to you guys not interested in playing? What are your thoughts, I think this looks VERY appealing compared to your 7% apy in the stock market where losses happen as well. (up to 50% in recent years.)And how would you like to see these investments grow? Through CDs? Growth fund? Paying Dividends quarterly? Tiered money marekts?If you were to invest, how much would you start with? (even if you are not interested, i would still like to know)

[Hold_Em 0]

This all sounds very very fishy to me. Like other people have said no one except losing players are going to want to be staked in cash games. But for anyone that does want to be staked I would seriously look into this operation first because i have read every post and it sounds very very fishy. This guy has provided no backround information about himself or his "investors," or any input on his plan.

[case ace 0]

This all sounds very very fishy to me. Like other people have said no one except losing players are going to want to be staked in cash games. But for anyone that does want to be staked I would seriously look into this operation first because i have read every post and it sounds very very fishy. This guy has provided no backround information about himself or his "investors," or any input on his plan.

This is obviously not my only advertising for my "operation". And again, I am not giving the info away untill the site is up. I'm trying to answer specific questions, but again do not have everything up and running. This thread is specifically to see what "the word on the street is". Internet forums are also not the most credible place in the world, so i am trying to give our investors a reasonable amount of privacy without besmirching (sp) our opperation. Again, about myself, I am a mortgage guy in the northeast, i have been in business for myself for about 4 years and have about 15 private investors in my line of work. We are currently pursuing public backers. There is no more info i can really give you, besides the name of the company, which is still in the works (could be a DBA already established, or a new LLC so we don't know yet.)Is there anything specific you are wondering? I am not trying to be fishy and will answer everything as "on the level" as possible.

[TS Clark 0]

What you guys fail to realise is that the hero of "Rounders" is really Kanish.Smash's new tag/sig line is the best ever. Fantastic.

[case ace 0]

Also, i am receiving a lot of warning on not to stake players i don't know, make sure they have a high post count...etc. So you know, this forum is not going to be our only correspondance, and in many situation we will mee the players face to face. We will run a credit check w/ SS#, DOB, and they will sign a 4506, and I-9, as well as 3 proofs of ID. You will probably have to provide a credit card # to cover any theft. So, there is no chance a player can steal, except if they chip dump, and we will have a hand history for every hand played with our money. If this is the case, they will be breaching the site's no collusion clause, be banned for life, and have they're accounts seized anyway by the site. We will have control over those accounts too and a preaaranged aggreement with the site, so we will get our money back.Thanks you very much for your input and concerns, but i would rather see other posts about the limits making sense, and what questions/concerns the investors or players will have.PS. KEEP THOSE PM'S COMING... BUTPLEASE READ DIRECTIONS VERY CAREFULLY. THOSE WHO CAN'T FOLLOW DIRECTIONS CAN'T BE STAKED

[DCSports92GSR 0]

Also, i am receiving a lot of warning on not to stake players i don't know, make sure they have a high post count...etc. So you know, this forum is not going to be our only correspondance, and in many situation we will mee the players face to face. We will run a credit check w/ SS#, DOB, and they will sign a 4506, and I-9, as well as 3 proofs of ID. You will probably have to provide a credit card # to cover any theft. So, there is no chance a player can steal, except if they chip dump, and we will have a hand history for every hand played with our money. If this is the case, they will be breaching the site's no collusion clause, be banned for life, and have they're accounts seized anyway by the site. We will have control over those accounts too and a preaaranged aggreement with the site, so we will get our money back.Thanks you very much for your input and concerns, but i would rather see other posts about the limits making sense, and what questions/concerns the investors or players will have.

Sorry, but no one is going to give you their CC#.