leebs12 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 From Cardplayer: With the board showing J-10-9-K-7 John Juanda bets $65,000 on the river, into Phil Ivey. Ivey folds and Juande shows him A-Q for the nut straight, winning a $200,000 pot.From Pokerwire: John Junada takes a chunk out of Phil Ivey's stackJohn Juanda made a pre-flop raise to 16k under the gun and was called by Phil Ivey from the big blind. The flop came [10♥][J♦][9♥] and both players checked. The turn came [K♠] and John Juanda made a 30k bet. Phil Ivey called the bet and the river came [7♠]. John Juanda opened the betting once again for 65k and after long thought on Ivey's part, was called. Juanda turned up [A][Q] for the nut straight. Ivey mucked his cards and Juanda too a pot of over 220k.Did ivey fold...or call? which site do we believe. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 CAlled and mucked makes the most sense.Why would Juanda show a nut hand there? Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 He folded, And Jdub showed. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 CAlled and mucked makes the most sense.Why would Juanda show a nut hand there?IDK, but he didDate / Time: 2005-07-12 13:06:00Title: Featured TableLog: With the board showing J-10-9-K-7 John Juanda bets $65,000 on the river, into Phil Ivey. Ivey folds and Juande shows him A-Q for the nut straight, winning a $200,000 pot. Link to post Share on other sites
leebs12 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 That is the problem...Pokerwire and cardplayer have different reports. Link to post Share on other sites
RayPowers 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 CAlled and mucked makes the most sense.Why would Juanda show a nut hand there?IDK, but he didDate / Time: 2005-07-12 13:06:00Title: Featured TableLog: With the board showing J-10-9-K-7 John Juanda bets $65,000 on the river, into Phil Ivey. Ivey folds and Juande shows him A-Q for the nut straight, winning a $200,000 pot. Quoting CardPlayer as a source for accuracy is unwise.Ray Link to post Share on other sites
leebs12 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 I quoted both hin the first post Link to post Share on other sites
squizie 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 once again.....i am going to have to go with smashhis reply seems very logical Link to post Share on other sites
alf13 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 CAlled and mucked makes the most sense.Why would Juanda show a nut hand there?Cuz he was called?You have to show don't you?If he wasn't called...it was stupid to show Ivey the absolute nuts. Link to post Share on other sites
MarionSauce 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 CAlled and mucked makes the most sense.Why would Juanda show a nut hand there?Cuz he was called?You have to show don't you?Smash is just saying that Ivey probably called because Juanda wouldn't show otherwise. Alf, we are having a DEBATE on whether Ivey called on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
alf13 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 CAlled and mucked makes the most sense.Why would Juanda show a nut hand there?Cuz he was called?You have to show don't you?Smash is just saying that Ivey probably called because Juanda wouldn't show otherwise. Alf, we are having a DEBATE on whether Ivey called on the river.this is getting confusing now...did Ivey call on the river or not?If he didn't...Juanda showing him his hand is dumb... Link to post Share on other sites
leebs12 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 Smash is just saying that Ivey probably called because Juanda wouldn't show otherwise. Alf' date=' we are having a DEBATE on whether Ivey called on the river.[/quote']Exactly Link to post Share on other sites
MarionSauce 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 CAlled and mucked makes the most sense.Why would Juanda show a nut hand there?Cuz he was called?You have to show don't you?Smash is just saying that Ivey probably called because Juanda wouldn't show otherwise. Alf, we are having a DEBATE on whether Ivey called on the river.this is getting confusing now...did Ivey call on the river or not?If he didn't...Juanda showing him his hand is dumb...No one knows. If only cardplayer was RELIABLE We would know. But I am guessing that Ivey called; Juanda wouldn't show w/o having to. Link to post Share on other sites
Huge Pair 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Well if the pot was over 200k he had to have called. 32k Preflop, 60k on the turn, plus the 130k on the river. It makes much more sense that he called the river bet. Link to post Share on other sites
wannabe 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Well if the pot was over 200k he had to have called. 32k Preflop, 60k on the turn, plus the 130k on the river. It makes much more sense that he called the river bet.Lets do the math...32+32+60+60+blinds = 200k Link to post Share on other sites
PoppinFresh 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Either way Juanda is the man!Anyways I hope their table breaks soon...Ivey and Juanda at the same table is no good. Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhite 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 I like cardplayer better, but does it matter? Link to post Share on other sites
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