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Had this elsewhere, don't think it was the right section tho'.So I play in a home game tournament I've never played in before a few days ago. 50 dollar buy in, nice slow structure, nice enough players.Couple of things that bothered me tho',1. Dealer, after he busted out and was now dealing, took it upon himself to look at my hole cards after sucessfull bluffs/ raises. This is a weekly game and if I were to play again I think it's downright unfair that this dude is looking at my style of play, when I didn't get to see his hole cards throughout the game.2. Before a hand was over, after I'd raise, a player still in the hand would show his hole cards to his neighbor in moments which are, to me, outright collusion. When I bet or raise against someone, I'm betting or raising against that particular person and their habits and stacks. I'm not betting against them and their freakin buddy's advice. *edit- and it was more than one player doing this, almost every other player did this at one point or another.*Now, I won this tourney, of course... but I'm wondering if I should go again, and if I do, would it be improper form for me to raise these issues? I mean, it isn't my game after all. But it's a good game, and a fun game that I'd rather be able to continute on playing.What are your thoughts?

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dont bother. im not going back to a particular home game that i would consider similar.it was supposed to be like this:20 buy in, max 2 rebuys for 60 total. ended up like this: host buys in for 60 to start (10,000 chips per 20), 3 other buy in for 40. host ends up buying in for 160 total. now i only came with 40, but thats besides the point, i should have creamed them.not only was the play horrible, but i also experienced the "show ur neighbour" syndrome.needless to say i didnt win. :club:

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Pfft, I'd go back. You won the tournament in your first try. You know which player was looking at your cards, so you can use that against him when he thinks he's got your bluff. Evidently the colluding didn't help the other players much. You can make comments like "What, I have to play against BOTH of you this hand?" ... sometimes little sarcastic comments like that can ease nicely into A) them stopping that bs, B) a discussion about why it's not cool.If it's a cool group of guys (that you can beat easily), these 'problems' are miniscule. Keep going, see if you can quietly sway the rules into correctness, and keep making money. Why not?!other guy:However, the BS rebuy shit -- now THAT is ridiculous. I woulda asked for my money back and left.

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I'd make them change the rules... We had a set standard for a little group we had in which no matter which house it was at we had the same rules, we actually had the rules printed off in all kept them in our poker-chips.This also helped when we'd go to another game because half of the time it'd be overwhelming majority in our favor to over-rule a house rule that we didn't agree with, making sure we did so before the game started and telling them we'd all walk if they didn't change it.Worked out well.

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Pfft, I'd go back. You won the tournament in your first try. You know which player was looking at your cards, so you can use that against him when he thinks he's got your bluff. Evidently the colluding didn't help the other players much. You can make comments like "What, I have to play against BOTH of you this hand?" ... sometimes little sarcastic comments like that can ease nicely into A) them stopping that bs, B) a discussion about why it's not cool.If it's a cool group of guys (that you can beat easily), these 'problems' are miniscule. Keep going, see if you can quietly sway the rules into correctness, and keep making money. Why not?!other guy:However, the BS rebuy censored -- now THAT is ridiculous. I woulda asked for my money back and left.
This stuff happens at most of my local home games also.I really dont think that they are gaining much, except watching how much better of a player you are over them.Also. the whole colluding thing.. U can use that to your advantage.If your in a hand with an opponent, and he willingly shows his hand to someone who asks to see it, u can get reactions from the other person, plus most of the time, if they hestitate, or show the hand to the other person, it usually means they have something, and are not embarrassed to show it
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Pfft, I'd go back. You won the tournament in your first try. You know which player was looking at your cards, so you can use that against him when he thinks he's got your bluff. Evidently the colluding didn't help the other players much. You can make comments like "What, I have to play against BOTH of you this hand?" ... sometimes little sarcastic comments like that can ease nicely into A) them stopping that bs, B) a discussion about why it's not cool.If it's a cool group of guys (that you can beat easily), these 'problems' are miniscule. Keep going, see if you can quietly sway the rules into correctness, and keep making money. Why not?!other guy:However, the BS rebuy censored -- now THAT is ridiculous. I woulda asked for my money back and left.
This stuff happens at most of my local home games also.I dont see any reason for you to be worries over them looking at your hands, and whatever.I really dont think that they are gaining much, except watching how much better of a player you are over them.Also. the whole colluding thing.. U can use that to your advantage.If your in a hand with an opponent, and he willingly shows his hand to someone who asks to see it, u can get reactions from the other person, plus most of the time, if they hestitate, or show the hand to the other person, it usually means they have something, and are not embarrassed to show it
Yeah, I didn't even think about it in that much detail -- maybe you should encourage them to show other people. There aren't that many people who can keep a completely straight face when someone shows them a hand. In fact, it's human nature to have a reaction when someone is showing you something. Excellent point Royal. First place.
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My question would be, how did you end up at the game. From th sounds of it, it seems like a group of buddies getting together to hang out and play some fun/not serious poker. I would suggest, if the guys are fun and it was a good time, going back and just having a good time. If your looking for a serious game, try a casino or online. If you show up and start calling these guys out, it will probably offend them.That being said, if someone showed up at my homegame and did that (where the game is a little more serious) I would deffinatly pipe up...My two cents...

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Ya, Miles, that's what I was thinking. Little light comments to get that stuff to stop. And yes, Mr. Look At My Cards is in for a couple of surpises.Jayson, if I had numbers that's how I'd go about it, but it's just me, the single new guy in a game of regulars, so I don't think I can get away with just walking in with a list of rules. But that's certainly how I'd go about it in my own home game, or a home game comprised of peeps I know.To the rebuy fiasco, hell ya, I woulda just walked out on that one, that's some shady shiz.

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Pfft, I'd go back. You won the tournament in your first try. You know which player was looking at your cards, so you can use that against him when he thinks he's got your bluff. Evidently the colluding didn't help the other players much. You can make comments like "What, I have to play against BOTH of you this hand?" ... sometimes little sarcastic comments like that can ease nicely into A) them stopping that bs, B) a discussion about why it's not cool.If it's a cool group of guys (that you can beat easily), these 'problems' are miniscule. Keep going, see if you can quietly sway the rules into correctness, and keep making money. Why not?!other guy:However, the BS rebuy censored -- now THAT is ridiculous. I woulda asked for my money back and left.
This stuff happens at most of my local home games also.I dont see any reason for you to be worries over them looking at your hands, and whatever.I really dont think that they are gaining much, except watching how much better of a player you are over them.Also. the whole colluding thing.. U can use that to your advantage.If your in a hand with an opponent, and he willingly shows his hand to someone who asks to see it, u can get reactions from the other person, plus most of the time, if they hestitate, or show the hand to the other person, it usually means they have something, and are not embarrassed to show it
Yeah, I didn't even think about it in that much detail -- maybe you should encourage them to show other people. There aren't that many people who can keep a completely straight face when someone shows them a hand. In fact, it's human nature to have a reaction when someone is showing you something. Excellent point Royal. First place.
Problem is, it was at the river they were doing this, and the information I may have gained from the other players response was meaningless to me as they were deciding whether to call or fold, doubt they'd do it if they were planning on reraising. There were two occasions that people called with mediocre hands because the person they showed the cards to gave the impression that pot odds made it correct, and one of the occasions it was the DEALER they showed the cards to, the same one who had been sneaking peeks and my unshown hole cards. I know on both of these occasions the player would have folded if not for showing the cards to someone else.sickboy, That's why I was asking, it is sort of a buddy game, and not too serious.... but for me the game loses purity if that kind of stuff is going on. And, even though it's just 50 buck buy-in, it's still 50 bucks, ya know? First pays
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