phil hellmuth

[Jeff 0]

Since his 48th cash, Phil really has lived up to his prediction of too many more has he?Surprised he hasn't taken up Daniel for heads-up Hold Em

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

Since his 48th cash, Phil really has lived up to his prediction of too many more has he?Surprised he hasn't taken up Daniel for heads-up Hold Em

phil's allota things, but dumb isn't one of them. Why wouldh e play DN, some one proably better than him ( or at least very close in skill ( in his mind, not mine)), when he can play movie stars and business executives.

[benhoug 0]

Surprised he hasn't taken up Daniel for heads-up Hold Em

No one else in the world is surprised about this. Daniel would Eat Phil for lunch in a heads-up cash game. I'm not saying this as some DN fanboy either. If you give 'em both big stacks, Daniel would play circles around Phil. When these challenge matches first came up someone mentioned Phil to Daniel, and I think his exact words were, "yummy."

[TS Clark 0]

Since his 48th cash, Phil really has lived up to his prediction of too many more has he?Surprised he hasn't taken up Daniel for heads-up Hold Em

Hellmuth has only played a few events and cashed in a couple. He hasn't played since, as he's had out-of-town commitments. He's back this Friday, according to what he said on Phil Gordon's podcast.Bet you he cashes a couple of other times in this Series to be sure. He seems to be playing pretty well. And when Phil is playing well, he's pretty sick. Like him or not (and he's easy to dislike sometimes), you've got to give him his respect. He's a terror in NLH tourneys.

[Mr. Orange 0]

Surprised he hasn't taken up Daniel for heads-up Hold Em

Daniel would Eat Phil for lunch in a heads-up cash game.

NBC Heads-up Champion was who? 9 WSOP Bracelets means someone has won how many times heads up? Quit being such closed minded Negreanu groupies. Yea, Daniel's amazing; but I don't think he would "eat Phil for lunch". Phil Hellmuth is an incredible heads-up poker player. If he could avoid becoming emotionally rattled, I see no reason why he couldn't beat DN more often than not.

[Meatwad 0]

Surprised he hasn't taken up Daniel for heads-up Hold Em

I saw someone actually ask him about that in chat when I was railbirding him and a couple other pros. His reply was something like, "That's for the young players with big egos."

[TS Clark 0]

Surprised he hasn't taken up Daniel for heads-up Hold Em

I saw someone actually ask him about that in chat when I was railbirding him and a couple other pros. His reply was something like, "That's for the young players with big egos."

Now, of course, this is the very definition of irony, since very few humans on this planet have bigger egos than Phil.However, I think Phil has found a way to make peace with the fact that he doesn't have the temperment for high-stakes cash game play. Post his world championship in the 80s, he blew almost all his winning playing high-limit cash games. He seems to have learned from that. It's not the lack of skill -- it's his lack of ability to prevent tilt. Guys like Reese and Ivey are untiltable and have a ton of heart/gamble. Phil isn't that guy.

[VicRattlehead 0]

Surprised he hasn't taken up Daniel for heads-up Hold Em

Daniel would Eat Phil for lunch in a heads-up cash game.

NBC Heads-up Champion was who? 9 WSOP Bracelets means someone has won how many times heads up? Quit being such closed minded Negreanu groupies. Yea, Daniel's amazing; but I don't think he would "eat Phil for lunch". Phil Hellmuth is an incredible heads-up poker player. If he could avoid becoming emotionally rattled, I see no reason why he couldn't beat DN more often than not.

I'm not taking anything away from Phil - he is a great player, no question. Heads up in a tournament setting and heads up FOR YOUR OWN CASH are two very different animals altogether.

[benhoug 0]

9 WSOP Bracelets means someone has won how many times heads up? Quit being such closed minded Negreanu groupies. Yea, Daniel's amazing; but I don't think he would "eat Phil for lunch". Phil Hellmuth is an incredible heads-up poker player. If he could avoid becoming emotionally rattled, I see no reason why he couldn't beat DN more often than not.

Did you ever hear about the ONE time that Phil played in the Big Game? Back when he did it the biggest game spread was 1K 2K, and Phil had just sold his house in Wisconsin. Apparently Phil was stuck for a house - he had lost every penny he got in the sale, which was well over 100K. Like I said before, I'm not saying one player is better than another, I'm just saying that Daniel has regularly played 1K 2K, 2K 4K, and 4K 8K cash games. There is a totally different skill set involved in beating something like that than besting a field of 800, or even 64 heads-up players (where you're only risking the $20K buy-in).

[typesick 0]

Phil is the best poker player in the world.

[Erik67 0]

Since his 48th cash, Phil really has lived up to his prediction of too many more has he?Surprised he hasn't taken up Daniel for heads-up Hold Em

phil's allota things, but dumb isn't one of them. Why wouldh e play DN, some one proably better than him ( or at least very close in skill ( in his mind, not mine)), when he can play movie stars and business executives.

BINGO!! If Danny and his opponents are so close in skill, they are basicaly flipping coins for $500k.

[wisky_VI 0]

Since his 48th cash, Phil really has lived up to his prediction of too many more has he?Surprised he hasn't taken up Daniel for heads-up Hold Em

phil's allota things, but dumb isn't one of them. Why wouldh e play DN, some one proably better than him ( or at least very close in skill ( in his mind, not mine)), when he can play movie stars and business executives.

BINGO!! If Danny and his opponents are so close in skill, they are basicaly flipping coins for $500k.

if seems to be the kicker as of late, no ?

[gcirons 0]

I can't help but laugh at all the punks in this forum who keep slaging Phil. I find it amazing that so many players who I would guess have never made it to a final table in a major event could slag a man who has made a fortune out of the game.Do something real for yourself, then maybe I will listen to your slaging

[Whatever 1]

according to what he said on Phil Gordon's podcast.

Greatest. Podcast. Ever.

[CaneBrain 95]

I can't help but laugh at all the punks in this forum who keep slaging Phil. I find it amazing that so many players who I would guess have never made it to a final table in a major event could slag a man who has made a fortune out of the game.Do something real for yourself, then maybe I will listen to your slaging

I agree completely....you can say a lot of bad things about Phil....he might be arrogant, obnoxious and perhaps even delusional at times....but he isnt stupid....thats #1. No one has made more money in the poker world than Phil from outside ventures....he is a shrewd marketer (or at least he has shrewd marketing people marketing him)Also, every single pro when asked about Phil unfailingly says the same thing....at the table he is a complete idiot....away from the table its hard to find a more decent person...stress will do funny things to some people...not excusing his behavior but I would rather root for someone who is an a$$ at the tables and a great guy elsewhere then vice versaLastly, Phil can play. He isnt a a great cash game player. So what?? 9 bracelets....its that simple....when he says he is the best poker player ever he is delusional....however if he said I am the best NL Tournament player ever....well he can make a VERY strong case there...and in the current TV environment where NL tourneys are the RATINGS KING thats a pretty decent thing to be able to claim.....and no one on this forum can make even a laughable case that they are the best at any form of poker....so kindly stfu about phil....

[bdc30 0]

In NL HE, I like Phil's chances in a match.Maybe he should start looking for a big timehotel builder to back him with the half mil'.....

[deviper 0]

Surprised he hasn't taken up Daniel for heads-up Hold Em

I saw someone actually ask him about that in chat when I was railbirding him and a couple other pros. His reply was something like, "That's for the young players with big egos."

Now, of course, this is the very definition of irony, since very few humans on this planet have bigger egos than Phil.However, I think Phil has found a way to make peace with the fact that he doesn't have the temperment for high-stakes cash game play. Post his world championship in the 80s, he blew almost all his winning playing high-limit cash games. He seems to have learned from that. It's not the lack of skill -- it's his lack of ability to prevent tilt. Guys like Reese and Ivey are untiltable and have a ton of heart/gamble. Phil isn't that guy.

Where did you get that info from???

[TS Clark 0]

Surprised he hasn't taken up Daniel for heads-up Hold Em

I saw someone actually ask him about that in chat when I was railbirding him and a couple other pros. His reply was something like, "That's for the young players with big egos."

Now, of course, this is the very definition of irony, since very few humans on this planet have bigger egos than Phil.However, I think Phil has found a way to make peace with the fact that he doesn't have the temperment for high-stakes cash game play. Post his world championship in the 80s, he blew almost all his winning playing high-limit cash games. He seems to have learned from that. It's not the lack of skill -- it's his lack of ability to prevent tilt. Guys like Reese and Ivey are untiltable and have a ton of heart/gamble. Phil isn't that guy.

Where did you get that info from???

Read 'Aces & Kings' -- it's new and it's very, very entertaining. They have profiles on lots of the top guys.Oh, and after reading the book, if you do not conclude that Chip Reese is absolutely pimplicious, you should be put down like a bad racehorse.

[CaneBrain 95]

Surprised he hasn't taken up Daniel for heads-up Hold Em

I saw someone actually ask him about that in chat when I was railbirding him and a couple other pros. His reply was something like, "That's for the young players with big egos."

Now, of course, this is the very definition of irony, since very few humans on this planet have bigger egos than Phil.However, I think Phil has found a way to make peace with the fact that he doesn't have the temperment for high-stakes cash game play. Post his world championship in the 80s, he blew almost all his winning playing high-limit cash games. He seems to have learned from that. It's not the lack of skill -- it's his lack of ability to prevent tilt. Guys like Reese and Ivey are untiltable and have a ton of heart/gamble. Phil isn't that guy.

Where did you get that info from???

Phil has admitted himself (I believe in his book Play Poker like the Pros or in Aces and Kings) that he did indeed blow almost all of his winnings from the 1989 WSOP main event win at high stakes cash games (and quickly too)like I said he is probably not anything more than a decent cash game player....but the HOT thing to do right now is NL tournaments and when it comes to those his track record is impressive....

[TS Clark 0]

according to what he said on Phil Gordon's podcast.

Greatest. Podcast. Ever.

It was pretty surreal. If there is a guy who is more relentlessly self-promoting than Hellmuth, I'd love to meet him.I mean, I really LIKE Hellmuth and even I wished I had been there to pimpslap the guy. When he's done with poker, Hellmuth needs to go into politics. He is the most "on message" human on this planet when he gets going. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your viewpoint) his message is usually, "Dude, I am awesome. Awesome, I tell you."

[CaneBrain 95]

Read 'Aces & Kings' -- it's new and it's very, very entertaining. They have profiles on lots of the top guys.Oh, and after reading the book, if you do not conclude that Chip Reese is absolutely pimplicious, you should be put down like a bad racehorse.Yeah chip is da man.....those stories about him dealing with Spilotro are crazy....today's young players like Fischman have no idea how good they have it....I am surprised that Chip never got into any real trouble winning money like that in Vegas in the 70's.

[gcirons 0]

It was pretty surreal. If there is a guy who is more relentlessly self-promoting than Hellmuth, I'd love to meet him.

Greenstein :shock:

[Jeff 0]

I can't help but laugh at all the punks in this forum who keep slaging Phil. I find it amazing that so many players who I would guess have never made it to a final table in a major event could slag a man who has made a fortune out of the game.Do something real for yourself, then maybe I will listen to your slaging

I like to think I keep it real, but thanks for the suggestion.

[mark33f 0]

From his chat with ESPN..."I played 2 and 4 thousand about 7 years ago. At that time it was the biggest game. I had just sold a house in Madison, Wis. I was stuck one house in the game. I got a check for $160,000 and it was the scariest moment in my poker life. I had 100 percent of my cash at risk. I got down to my last $20,000 and my focus sharpened. I realized it was do or die. It's like my very existance was on the line. "

[ajs510 122]

Read 'Aces & Kings' -- it's new and it's very' date=' very entertaining. They have profiles on lots of the top guys.Oh, and after reading the book, if you do not conclude that Chip Reese is absolutely pimplicious, you should be put down like a bad racehorse.[/quote']Yeah chip is da man.....those stories about him dealing with Spilotro are crazy....today's young players like Fischman have no idea how good they have it....I am surprised that Chip never got into any real trouble winning money like that in Vegas in the 70's.

Chip Reese used to be 300+ pounds, you can get away with a lot more when you look like you could rip a person in half...