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Ok, earlier today I posted a question about a sit and go situation I was in and was really pleased with the responses. (UTG with AJo) Since I am almost exclusively a sit and go player, I am sometimes discouraged by the lack of posts regarding s&g strategy in this forum. I have decided to make daily posts on hands that I question myself over after I am finished with a sit and go. Usually, if I played a hand incorrect, or had a question about it, I will write it down while I am playing. I will post these questions, and hopefully we can get some worthwhile discussions started on sit and go strategy.I mainly play $20, and $30 sit and goes on UB. My handle is jdepa01 if you want to railbird.Here is a situation I recently encountered. I am pretty confident I made the correct play, but let me see what you guys think.150-300 blinds (4 minutes left at this level) 5 people left (no it wasnt a turbo...just some solid players) I have T1900 SB has T4500 BB has T3000 ( other stacks have T2000 and T3600)I'm on the button with KQs and it is folded to me.What is the correct play??

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More info.how did they play all tourny, and even in the past tournys you've played together.
honestly...all players left were fairly tight aggressive. Didnt have any previous notes on them. But they all played relatively solid and straight-forward...suprisingly.
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You have barely more than 6xBB and you're in last place. Top 3 get paid if this is a one table SNG so if ever there is a time to push, now is the time.

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Yeah, this situation kinda sucks. You're about 63% to win against a random hand, here, and there's enough money in the pot to justify pushing even if you're likely to get called by hands like A3, etc. Losing to a crappy ace would suck, but you'd like to win the blinds, or have the BB call you with nothing.Ice

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Well, let's look at our options.1) Fold. If you choose this, you might as well just click on sit out and pray to make it to the money.2) Call hoping to hit a flop and make some money. Again, not a move I'd like to do. With only 6xbb, i don't see this as an option at all.3) Call hoping for one of the blinds to raise so you can push. Your opponents are TA, the only way they are pushing is if they have you dominated (or maybe maybe AJs). You're going to have to call at this point and likely be gone. If your opponents were LAGs, this might work, as they might push at you with any ace or any 2 broadway, but they'd probably call an all in of 6xbb with those anyway.... so4) Push, correct answer. Easy easy push imo. The blinds constitute 25% of your current stack, so I don't see how you wouldn't be happy just to take them. And a push will probably knock out weak aces, which is certainly a good thing.edit:Oh yeah, forgot one5) Make a standard raise. I don't see this as an option really. Any raise, even a minraise pot commits you, so why bother with the weak raises? If you're hoping to induce a bluff, the call would be much better, as an opponent actually has a glimmer of hope of you folding if you just call. If half of your chips are in the pot, you'd have to be playing against a retarded baboon if they thought there was any chance of you folding at any point.

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Yes, this one was rather simple. I pushed, as I thought it was the only viable option. Unfortunately BB had AK. I will come up with a more difficult one tommorow.

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Why push here? You have a hand where, as previously stated, is losing to any bad ace. Yes you want the blinds, but if your read on your opponents is T/A, then why not just call the BB. If you trust your post-flop skills, then this is your best option. As even holding AK, as one of the blinds held, you are putting pressure on them, as your limp seems a bit suspicious (i.e. you may be trying to trap w/ a huge hand). Also, this gives you an option, that if your T/A opponents re-raises you all in after you limp, you can fold and make a stand later when you know you are not crushed. By limping in on the button, you are using the power of the button to see a flop and out play your opponents. If the flop hits you, you have an easy push post flop, if the flop comes w/ an Ace and it is checked to you, you can represent the Ace, if the flop comes rags, you can push all in on a bluff (thus still leaving yourself outs in most cases) and make it tough for your T/A opponents to call w/ mid pair, or no hand. Sometimes in NL the best art is having no art and to do the "off the wall" can be the better play.L* :club:

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If you limp/fold here, you just made the worst play ever. And limping putting pressure on the guy with AK? Hah. He's a TA, he's pushing all in preflop and you're forced to call anyway (or forced to surrender that bet, and if you do that with KQs, you might as well just try and fold to the money). As for outplaying him postflop, you have no room to maneuver. After putting in 1/6 of your stack preflop, it's an all in or fold situation on the flop. What happens when an A comes on the flop and a TA tries to buy the pot from you. Are you going to fold and lose to a worse hand? There's absolutely no reason to see a flop and try to hit when you are down to 6xbb. You must push preflop, K high is the best hand against 2 blind hands most of the time. KQs is well (edit:above) my minimum requirements to push in this scenario.

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KQs is well below my minimum requirements to push in this scenario.
You mean well above your minimum requirements right? I agree with Nutcracker, when I am down to 6 BB in this spot, its time to double up or go home.
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